PETA Criticizes 'Far Cry 6' On Its Choice of Animal-Themed Minigame (comicbook.com) 122
"The recently released Far Cry 6 video game from Ubisoft has drawn the ire of the animal rights organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA)," reports ComicBook.com:
While PETA has been known to issue statements on the handling of animals in video games over the years, and Far Cry 6 includes a variety of animals and instances that might have been the subject of such a statement, it is the cockfighting minigame in Far Cry 6 that has been specifically called out.
"Turning a horrific blood sport like cockfighting into a Mortal Kombat-style video game match is a far cry from real innovation, as today's society is strongly opposed to forcing animals to fight to the death," the statement from PETA Latino Senior Manager Alicia Aguayo reads. "Roosters used in cockfights are fitted with sharp spurs that tear through flesh and bone, causing agonizing and fatal injuries. PETA Latino urges Ubisoft to replace this reprehensible minigame with one that doesn't glorify cruelty."
"Turning a horrific blood sport like cockfighting into a Mortal Kombat-style video game match is a far cry from real innovation, as today's society is strongly opposed to forcing animals to fight to the death," the statement from PETA Latino Senior Manager Alicia Aguayo reads. "Roosters used in cockfights are fitted with sharp spurs that tear through flesh and bone, causing agonizing and fatal injuries. PETA Latino urges Ubisoft to replace this reprehensible minigame with one that doesn't glorify cruelty."
Oh, and people (Score:5, Insightful)
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It's like Dave Chappelle said: You can (literally) shoot and kill a black man in a Walmart without hurting your career, but hurt a gay person's feelings, and you are likely to get cancelled.
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It's like Dave Chappelle said: You can (literally) shoot and kill a black man in a Walmart without hurting your career, but hurt a gay person's feelings, and you are likely to get cancelled.
The moral duplicity of such a zero-sum-game joke is horrid. Both extremes in the joke are wrong and just because some people get away with murdering POCs, it doesn't mean homophobes should get away with their shit.
And let us understand that Chappelle is not simply highlighting an inequality (and the injustice therein). He is dismissing homophobic acts as simply "hurting gay feelings." Just a few decades ago, police departments were openly performing gay-hunting raid parties, which is really not that diffe
Re: Oh, and people (Score:4, Informative)
Actually Chappelle was taking about one specific person, namely a rapper called DaBaby who shot and killed another black man at a Walmart, and had nothing bad happen to his career (in fact, when rappers are involved in violence, it often helps their career.) Then some time later, DaBaby made a gay joke, and he was disinvited from Lollapalooza.
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Re: Oh, and people (Score:1)
Humans are killers. Humans are also the lowest on the food chain (well maybe second lowest to cockroaches, anyway), and are ripe for the killing. Humans are also very disposable.
We try to pretend it's not the case, but reality is always showing otherwise. People are out to get you. You might not be a specific target now, but it can and often does happen.
You always need to stay on high alert around humans.
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Humans are also the lowest on the food chain (well maybe second lowest to cockroaches, anyway), and are ripe for the killing.
Humans are at the top of the food chain; nothing else routinely preys upon us. There are very few animals (polar bears, for one) who will look at a human being and think "lunch". Maybe Pratchett was right, and evolution really has taught wolves that human meat has sharp edges.
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You misspelled men. Common mistake.
Women don't kill? Okay...
Re: Oh, and people (Score:4, Insightful)
You misspelled men. Common mistake.
Haven't you heard? The idea of "man" and "woman" are social constructs. There are no men and women, only humans "assigned" these roles at birth. We don't make such arbitrary and archaic assignments any more. People are people, not people are men and women. Or maybe this is all bullshit.
If anything is a social construct it is race. Male and female are not constructs. We constructed the language to describe the distinction between men and women but that doesn't make sex a construct. We consider being "male-like" as masculine, and we use gendered words to express this analogy of "male-ness" to objects. Likewise things we associate with being female are considered feminine, and we use gendered words to analogize female qualities to objects.
We'd be better off if we disposed of race as a construct. Genetic history is important in medicine though, so we can't dispose of that completely. We know certain diseases tend to affect people of certain ancestry, and so if people of a given ancestry show certain symptoms then we'd look for certain diseases. Kind of like how given symptoms will be treated differently on men versus women.
We can try to remove male and female from society and culture but that cannot last, it is because men and women are different that humans can propagate. We'd be much more successful in removing race since in all but some uncommon medical situations race can be ignored.
Re: Oh, and people (Score:2)
As of now my comment is marked as flamebait, any meaning of that term already squeezed out of slashdot history. I could have been offtopic...
If it was a comment pointing out sexist language where people should use "women" then my comment would have been +5 Insightful. And that is what I wanted to point out. That our culture explicitly goes out of its way to talk about gender when it is men being a victim by instead talking about generic "people", that doesn't have an identity.
When it is about doing some goo
Re: Oh, and people (Score:4, Interesting)
the problem with this view is that there are people that are biologically in the middle
Are you suggesting we should structure our entire society for the comfort of a miniscule minority?
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What about just male equipped, female equipped, dual equipped or none of the above?
Re: Oh, and people (Score:4, Informative)
So whether you agree with the drama around self-identifying as a different gender or not is rather irrelevant, the problem is it's flat out factually incorrect to suggest that male and female is a binary truth in an absolute sense - it's simply not, even if most people do usually fit into one of those categories. The problem isn't whether gender fluidity exists - it does, that's a natural fact of evolution whether you like it or not.
Actually, when it comes to mammals, sex is very much binary as far as evolution is concerned. Any mammal that falls outside of binary (neuter) doesn't reproduce. Some have even tried to induce same sex mammal gametes into meiosis and it just doesn't work.
The vast majority of those who claim they are somewhere in between, or that they can change their sex, are matter of factly wrong, they have (or at least had, prior to surgery) perfectly healthy male or female gonads and can or could produce perfectly healthy gametes. That makes them very much binary. Their protests to the contrary are anti science (as is claiming that one was born the wrong sex, or claiming that there is such thing as a female penis.)
A genuine case of being intersex, where their gonads (testes/ovaries) developed ambiguously and are thus infertile, is quite rare, and even then, they're not fluid or part of some spectrum, they're neuter.
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That was almost a statement worth reading. Any value in it, however, is annihilated by your use of "incels". The fad-following mindset that leads to that word and to "snowflake" deserves to be taken out and shot.
If something is annihilated by a single word, then that something was never worth reading in the first place.
OTH, if it was almost worth reading, it means it cannot be annihilated in its totality by a single word (misused as you suggest.)
Either way, you got fad-triggered, and allowed yourself to go down a path of logical contradictions. Congratulations.
Re: Oh, and people (Score:4, Funny)
OK, it's fiction, but I couldn't help thinking of this:
Captain Hastings:
[referring to marriage] You ever thought about it?
Hercule Poirot:
In my experience, I have known of five cases of women murdered by their devoted husbands.
Captain Hastings:
Yes?
Hercule Poirot:
And twenty-two husbands murdered by their devoted wives. So thank you, non. The marriage, it is not for me.
Re:Oh, and people (Score:5, Informative)
PETAs goal here is to make people talk about PETA, because it gives them attention.
Congratulations Slashdot, you were just gamed.
Re:Oh, and people (Score:5, Informative)
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Their pronouncements should be ignored by any sensible media - including slashdot.
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I thought we just had posts from them so we could laugh at them. I have not seen much evidence of anyone taking them seriously.
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I agree with you and stuff from PETA should not actually be covered. I just think the only reason PETA gets posted is to laugh at.
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Sometimes just raising awareness about these idiots helps. I mean, I told a militant vegan PETA cat lover that we had to go out and shoot mange infected cats on the farm to protect the cat population as a whole and he practically went ballistic. So you want me to try and get a WILD ANIMAL to the vet? Not going to happen. Let the mangy cats infect the rest of the cats? That does them all a favor when they FREEZE TO DEATH in the winter because they don't have any fur. Some people just don't understand the bes
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Re: Oh, and people (Score:2)
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Well my goal here was to make fun of PETA, but others beat me to the joke. You're basically playing a "murder simulator" and all they care about is the torturing of virtual animals?
New Initiative (Score:2)
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Oh, and people
PETA is very clearly astroturf; they're meant to appear like a bunch of complete fucking nuts(TM) - i.e. "grassroots activists" - but they're completely manipulated from above, like the guy the feds talk into trying to blow something up.
They've created a projection**, a construct of a unreasonable tyrant that everyone just want to punch in the face* because it's just so stupid...
*And I'm a vegetarian.
**It was easy as the template already existed; it was called a college female...
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Yes, but that's not the issue.
An equivalent for humans would be if you force two people into a caged deathmatch, for your own amusement or for gambling.
Re: Oh, and people (Score:2)
In video games that happens all the time. It's called deathmatch. There's also another variant called a Battle Royale.
I'm not sure what the big deal over video cockfighting is.
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That matters far less to PETA. Always has.
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Pixels are people too (Score:3)
In all the latest news of extinctions and die offs, criticizing a bunch of pixels and polygons seems like a waste of time and just plain stupid.
But maybe that's just me.
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In all the latest news of extinctions and die offs, criticizing a bunch of pixels and polygons seems like a waste of time and just plain stupid.
PETA: Won't someone think of cocks!
Re: Pixels are people too (Score:2)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=z1... [youtube.com]
Soon, no more bbq'ing of hotdogs. (Score:2)
Do this first (Score:3)
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PETA should shut up and put out a better and more popular game.
It’s called Animal Crossing.
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Tell them (Score:5, Insightful)
They are not real animals.
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Better yet, tell them to stop complaining about virtual animals, when their own org shamelessly euthanizes the vast majority of animals it takes into its "Shelters."
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-... [newsweek.com]
They don't even deny it-- they just try to spin it.
https://www.peta.org/about-pet... [peta.org]
Better: Use it to Advertize the Graphics (Score:3)
Animals (Score:2)
Have you seen the cruelty animals do to other animals? Animals inflict immense suffering on each other. I mean, I agree we should not do that, but it needs to be acknowledged how many animals inflict cruelty due to their limitation in empathy, especially cross-species empathy. Yes there are exceptions, but the norm is that animals inflict suffering on each other. PETA gets their information from movies not real life.
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Have you seen the cruelty animals do to other animals? Animals inflict immense suffering on each other. I mean, I agree we should not do that, but it needs to be acknowledged how many animals inflict cruelty due to their limitation in empathy, especially cross-species empathy. Yes there are exceptions, but the norm is that animals inflict suffering on each other. PETA gets their information from movies not real life.
You mean like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Re: Animals (Score:2)
That one is extremely mild try searching for some of the African wild dog or hyena videos.
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Watching a big cat (I think it was a cheetah) chowing down while the catch is still alive and screaming was rather disturbing. I did not watch the whole thing.
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Have you seen the cruelty animals do to other animals?
Cruelty requires agency, and knowledge of what one is doing. Animals cannot be cruel, with the exception of some of the apes (chimpanzees can be real bastards, apparently).
Suffering is another emotive word, for to truly suffer one has to have some degree of self-awareness; if you can't remember a time when you weren't in pain or hope for pain to stop, how can one really suffer?
To coin a phrase, a tiger doesn't eat it its prey alive just so that it can hear it scream.
(To be fair, most big cats - and other bi
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More to the point, every living thing on the planet kills for it's own survival. Even plants - they shade out the ground below to compete for sunlight, starving smaller plants below them.
Killing for your own survival is how life works.
serious question (Score:3)
is PETA relevant?
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sure, they operate a lot of no kill but actually kill shelters. but is PETA relevant to any policy decisions?
I'm a moderate animal lover. I don't believe in inflicting cruelty on to animals. And if we are to raise them as pets or food we can do so in an ethical manner (I guess a different meaning of ethical than PETA has).
As for fur bearing animals, there has been historically so many problems with that industry that the profit incentive to cut corners and to cage un-domesticated animals inhumanely is too s
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They support killing barred owls to protect spotted owls, even though the barred owl has expanded its territory on its own. It isn't an introduced species. It is a species that recently found a route, via Canada, of habitat close that it could use to expand from the east coast to the west coast. Likely this was enabled by humans killing other predatory species. But this is the world that exists now, and these animals expanded by flapping their own wings in the direction they wanted to fly. And PETA support
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I know of PETA.
WTF is PETA LATINO?
And I just checked, PETA staands for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. What has that got to do with pixels which when arranged look like an animal? Maybe they need another organisation, like PETA Latino, maybe PETA Digital? And lets add an R in there, so it becomes PETARD. Am sure someone can come up with a backronym for this.
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The point isn't that they're relevant, the point is that it is funny when people complain about pixels.
And even funnier when they think they're speaking against it, when in reality they're giving it free advertising.
You PETA folks ... (Score:1, Redundant)
... are welcome to stand in for the chickens any time you want.
Given who this is from. (Score:5, Insightful)
Given that this is from the same organization that has literally stolen pets from their family's yard and had them killed.
So they protest fictional chickens cockfighting while deliberately killing treasured family pets.
PETA can go straight to hell as far as I am concerned.
Re:Given who this is from. (Score:4, Funny)
Funny story from my neighbour. He had two sulfur crested cockatoos as pets, and some organisation (don't think it was PETA, but all these anti animal nutjobs are the same) staged a protest in our street complete with local news decrying the audacity of this guy for daring to keep such an elegant creature in a cage!
So my neighbour relented. Grabbed the birds, went out to the protestors and said he has seen the error of his ways and set the birds free and they took off from his hands. The birds landed on the grass. Looked at the protestors, turned around and walked back into the house.
I've never seen a bunch of wankers so dumbfounded in my life.
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Was thinking the same thing, though it would be better if the PETA members fitted themselves with spurs and tried to kill one another with their hands tied behind their backs. While the roosters watched.
Very logically consistent (Score:1)
Hence, a cockfighting mini-game should be removed from the video game "Far Cry 6". Which does nothing but glorify violence and cruelty to human-shaped pixels. But that's not an issue.
Got it.
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PETA is cherry picking. (Score:2)
Most games have violence as a central theme: First Person Shooters by definition, but also your average MMPORG. Take a relatively mild game like SWTOR. You gain points and level by killing, well, most anything, and your character is likely to get snuffed out by a robot. So why is PETA focusing on animals? Are they just basic sociopaths who cannot have normal relationships with their fellow human beings? What the developers ought to do is change the target subjects of their game to PETA members. It would be
Peta probably kills more real animals... (Score:2)
Than this game will kill virtual ones.
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Bah PETA. (Score:2)
You left out a very crucial bit (Score:3)
The one where you explain why we should give a fuck what these loonies think.
PETA's stash of animal themed minigames (Score:2)
Honestly cooking mama is my personal favorite.
https://games.peta.org/cooking... [peta.org]
https://games.peta.org/pokemon... [peta.org]
https://games.peta.org/mario-k... [peta.org]
https://games.peta.org/super-m... [peta.org]
https://www.mccruelty.com/supe... [mccruelty.com]
https://games.peta.org/fastfoo... [peta.org]
https://support.peta.org/page/... [peta.org]
Pokemon was smart to have cute "animals" (Score:2)
Because how else can you describe Pokemon but slavery and cockfighting? You go out and hunt for these pokemon creatures, which seem to be sentient, "recruit" or otherwise enslave them to then go fight against other pokemon being enslaved, aka cockfighting.
But the pokemon characters are cute and not depictions of animals so it's okay. It's definitely popular and even though I never got into pokemon on any level, the idea of playing the phone version where I walk around a park (get those steps in, right) look
As a vegetarian... (Score:2)
As a vegetarian, I wish to point out that PETA does stuff just to get attention.
It is pretty transparent, as one can see from previous campaigns they've engaged in. PETA appears to believe that there's no such thing as bad publicity.
The basic decency of their ideas (Score:5, Insightful)
...is lost in their implementation.
It reminds me of Greta Thunberg. I don't disagree with her. I just can't listen to her very long before being annoyed.
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why is this even here (Score:2)
Nobody gives a shit. (Score:2)
Sorry, but PETA has exactly zero ethical headroom to be preaching to others.
pull your heads out of your arses PETA (Score:2)
Mortal Kock Fight? (Score:5, Funny)
Turning a horrific blood sport like cockfighting into a Mortal Kombat-style video game
Finish him!
(BAGAWK!!!)
Kluck Zero wins!
Oh noes! Not the pixel animals!!... (Score:2)
Seriously, it's a video game. If you think that video games have a legitimate affect on real world human behaviors, you really missing out on several decades of psychological papers. But hey, there's still hope! Turns out, games like this also enable players to shoot and "kill" real game human models just as readily, so you have a 2nd case in the works that could be even bigger than the chickens!
tldr; get fucked you over-reaching tards.
QQ
Here's the problem with PETA (Score:2)
Steve Hofstetter with the 411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
tldr: PETA murder an enormous, crazy number of animals every year, in the interests of "saving them". It's fucked up.
Great game idea (Score:1)
I would like to see a bull fighting game in VR. Think about it, having a virtual 1 ton steak of muscles and bad humor running at you at full speed.
But unlike in the real world where the bull is severely damaged beforehand (i e neck tendons cut so as not to allow the bull to raise its head) have it fit for an honest match.
this world has realy gone mad (Score:1)
a digital representation of cockerels fighting in a game about end of world and violence. and all we hear is "think of the poor digital representation of birds "
some one is getting payed far too much and either can not find any thing useful to cry about or is too afraid to tackle real world problems.
in my opinion PETA is a scam. and stuff like this does not help me believe other wise. no where is my leather jacket. and leather shoes going to go have a ride in my leather seats in my car... and may be get a f
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What, no baby seal hubcaps on your car?
Getting soft?
Playing PeTA's game. (Score:2)
And that's exactly why they tend to make such outrageous claims like criticizing games with even fantasy animals like Pokemon; people are outraged and create free publicity for PeTA. And they do not seem to care whether the publicity is good or bad in the eyes of the majority, they just want publicity.
For most intents and purposes PeTA are trolls. Try not to feed them, or they'll regularly come back for
Yeah, let's do it to HUMANS! (Score:2)
That's far more acceptable, and everybody hates humans anyway. ;)
Can't end em all, but at least you can try harder than lazy ass Covid!
In fact, let's do it to the most despised humans! Militant PETA members VS corporate psychopaths! :D
Now THERE's a fight I'd like to watch!
Iâ(TM)m buying. (Score:1)
Really (Score:1)
Pfft. (Score:2)
fuck those fucking domain thieves (Score:2)
subject is all
Idiots (Score:2)
I can understand protecting _real_ animals. But virtual ones? That is just fighting "though crimes" and that marks them as evil.
STOP (Score:2)
Stop posting any statements from PETA, ever. Only report on them if they commit a crime, win a lawsuit, or shut down.
Their behavior is troll-like. They sit around, waiting to be offended by mundane bullshit, then make a statement that gets published around the web solely because their name has longevity.
They should be ignored.
PETA kills thousand of animals each year! (Score:2)
PETA is the reason that I'm NOT vegetarian!!
SMH....... (Score:2)
Can we just all do a collective eye-roll right now? IT'S A VIDEO GAME!
Society is messed up (Score:2)
Who's side are PETA on? (Score:2)
Farcry 6 just got a whole bunch of free advertising.
Ms Streisand isn't a PETA member is she?
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... and here I was hoping for an on-topic tweak of the copypasta.
I am not surprised that it's just the usual, but I am still a bit disappointed that the low-effort troll was in too much of a hurry to get first post to adapt it at all. At least make it "The Beating of a PETArd" and substitute "PETA activist" for "liberal celebrity" or something!
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Truly nothing to see here.
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A little creativity could have done something with a juxtaposition of people fighting in a ring and cock fighting.