

Q3Test 1.05 for Linux released 166
Jacek Fedorynski writes "New Linux version of Q3Test has just been released. Here is the list of mirrors. " You know the drill-go get 'em.
Sentient plasmoids are a gas.
Re:Win32 Midnight CST (Score:1)
Re:I've tried RH5.2... unsuccessfully (Score:1)
you'll have to muck in with the driver effort. They've only really just started work on the driver so it's a bit of work to get it running, and even then it's too choppy to be playable (up to 10 or so FPS, but only 5 or so in busier places which is what counts).
If you want to actually play Q3test under linux you'll probably want a Voodoo card.
Win32 Version NOW Available!!! (Score:1)
I saw it here ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/idgames/idstuff/quake3/win 32/q3test_1_05.exe [cdrom.com]
But, better to find a mirror. ftp.cdrom.com is crawling like a snail!
Re:Win32, screwed again (Score:2)
mirror (linux and mac 1.05) (Score:2)
(21.7 MB) ftp://128.253.27.92/q3test-1.05-glibc-9.i386.tar.
(22.2MB) ftp://128.253.27.92/MacQ3Test_1_05.bin [128.253.27.92]
Stupid lamers (Score:3)
[ Suddenly, Anonymouse Coward notices that this article is about Q3A, not the kernel. ]
Oh. Never mind.
[ Anonymous Coward covers his head in shame and embarrassment. He does wish there was a bzip2 version though. ]
is there a way to make it run in software only? (Score:1)
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European Mirror Cluster (Score:1)
Win32 Midnight CST (Score:4)
Re:q3test and esd (Score:1)
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Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org/
It's a lot more responsive on my PII266+Voodoo2 (Score:1)
Just a minor nitpick.... (Score:1)
Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users (Score:1)
You never know, Q3 could be a turning point for the general acceptance of Linux.
If at first you don't succeed... (Score:1)
I would like to suggest not giving up entirely. ie grab the W32 version for now, but keep trying with Linux. You just might find it worth the effort (I did, but I still can't play Q3: a 486-66 and ET4000 just doesn't cut it).
Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users (Score:1)
As to the sound cards, which ones? ALSA seems to support several, but I don't know enough about these things (though my sb128pci goes nicely, oh the joys of a tripple bus 486 (asus), 4 isa, 1 vesa, 3 pci).
web browsing (Score:1)
Re:Oh, man, that *would* be a topper... (Score:1)
Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users (Score:1)
You forgot.... (Score:1)
bzip2 (Score:1)
Re:P233 + quake (Score:1)
On the other hand, that could be because I'm two 100baseT switches away from the server and am reported as having a 0 ping playing against people off the internet through a saturated 12 megabit line all pinging _at least_ 100 - 200
If your FPS is above 20, you'll be OK. For your p233, I'd actually suggest just getting a cheap voodoo1, the voodoo2 will processor bottleneck long before it will fill-rate bottleneck... Lots of unused rendering power. Same problem with a voodoo1 on a pentium, for that matter
Problem starting q3test (Score:1)
Can someone help, i installed the rpm for q3test, and the glide drivers for my Voodoo2. when i run
Quake 3? (Score:1)
Bored already. Next......
ZipSlack (Score:1)
See www.slackware.com [slackware.com]. (Although it seems to be down at the moment.
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New Book Out W/ Caldera (Score:2)
I saw it in the bookstore last week, i can't remember the name of it, but it includes Caldera, and it's only about 1/2" thick, 10"x10"????
I remember thinking "I should get this for my mom..." Anyone know what it is?
Right here... (Score:1)
3dfx Interactive: Voodoo 2 Linux Reference Drivers [3dfx.com]
Mind you, these are the reference drivers, so you might like to check with the manufacturer of your graphics card. I know they seem to work with Quake2 and and STB Voodoo2.TNT support under linux... when? (Score:1)
Anybody have any news about the Riva TNT support for Q3 under Linux? All I've heard is that there should be support by the time that the TNT2 or Q3 is released. TNT2 is already shipping. I guess I'll just have to wait and play under NT :(
Lynx is ace - Re:web browsing (Score:1)
Quit whining, there's a reason... (Score:1)
Re:Linux (Score:1)
Typical problems I've had are with a PnP modem without a PnP motherboard, resolved by IsaPnpTools. Other than that all I've ever had to do was symlink
Win32 Version coming (from .plan file) (Score:3)
Welcome to id Software's Finger Service V1.5!
Name: Graeme Devine
Email: zaphod@idsoftware.com
Description: Some Guy
Project:
Last Updated: 05/10/1999 17:54:06 (Central Standard Time)
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5/10/99
IMPORTANT!
You must completely nuke your old Q3TEST install before installing the update.
The config files from the old build are BAD voodoo.
You can also type "exec democycle" to watch a bunch of id people play the map.
5/10/99
Q3Test 1.05 is DONE!
New Linux/Mac versions are going up right now, and we're finishing up the installer
for the Win32 version.
If all goes well, the Win32 version will follow in a few hours (few == six or so).
Quit whining, there's a reason... (Score:4)
From what I've heard, ID Software deliberately released on non-win32 platforms first. Why? By targeting a platform (Mac and then Linux and finally Win32) with a smaller targer audience they won't get so many duplicated bug reports on the core cross-platform code. It saves them time and effort filtering and logging bugs.
Matrox G200 laments (Score:2)
I got the Quake to work briefly but I realized that I wasn't using GLX, but software only Mesa. Since then I haven't been able to get it to work at all, or any GLU stuff for that matter, although the X server does recognize the GLX extension at startup.
In case you haven't run across it, a good page for getting Quake3 to run with Matrox is at http://www.linuxstart.com/~kva nce/projects/g200.html [linuxstart.com]. And for those that want more G200 info, see http://reality.sgi.com/ri pperda_engr/glx/matrox_stat.html [sgi.com]. As I have noted, it hasn't worked for me yet, but it's progressing pretty well.
As an aside. Redhat 6.0 is a great upgrade for those of you running 5.2. The 2.2.5 kernel and glibc 2.1 make a noticable difference in speed, (and apparently make Netscape more stable, but this could be a mirage). It's nice to see that a company can issue an upgrade that performs better than the original. Thanks to all the hackers in and out of Redhat that made it happen. (And no, before you flame me, I haven't tried Debian yet, but I've got an empty partition just waiting for it.)
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Re:MIRROR WIN32 (Score:1)
Re:Get Debian (Score:1)
Re:I've tried RH5.2... unsuccessfully (Score:1)
No. (Score:1)
Seriously, there's people working to make other display adapters work with this- it's just that you may have to wait until it ships before you can use something other than a Voodoo/Voodoo2 based adapter. Got any programming skills and a G200 or SiS 6326 based adapter? Join in on the fun and help us make this happen!
Slowest? Don't tempt me... (Score:1)
Oh, man, that *would* be a topper... (Score:1)
Try Lynx for web browsing... (Score:1)
Re:Get Debian (Score:1)
You're truly sick... I like... (Score:1)
Quake3:Arena = Q3, Q3 Test = q3test... (Score:2)
Re:P233 + quake (Score:1)
CPU usage was between 45% and 60% most of the time, with peaks at 100% when entering rooms/enabling new visual effects (like "quake power" effect).
q3 also used 85Mb during play, so it may be playable with a voodoo2 and enough ram on your box.
What about my Riva 128? (Score:1)
CP-contemplates-on-a-voodoo2
Re:q3test and esd (Score:1)
Mirror (multi T1) (Score:1)
Re:and now glsetup . . . (Score:1)
Linux survival guide for Windows users (Score:2)
- Sam
Re:Thanks! (Score:1)
Re:Forgive me... q3test? (Score:1)
q3test is a technology test released by id Software for their upcoming game Quake 3: Arena. They release the test so that the public can report bugs to them so that the final product will be much more solid than if they did in-house bug-hunting. I don't think they've released a Windows version yet because they are waiting for the 3d card manufacturers to finish up their OpenGL drivers.
Re:P233 + quake (Score:2)
logan
Re:.deb avabilable (Score:1)
I know you're joking, but debian/non-free is oh, several hundred megabytes ;-)
[ I don't have a 3dfx. Think sour grapes :-P ]
Voodoo 1's are about $30 these days. V2's are less than $100. There's really no excuse.
I only have a measly P-233mmx with a V1 and Q3 test, especially the new build, is perfectly playable. Even on the lowest detail settings it looks nicer than Quake2.
SysReq's (Score:1)
-- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?
Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? (Score:1)
You can probably get the Mesa rpm from http://www.mesa3d.org/ or somewhere like ftp://contrib.redhat.com/
Oh, and don't expect much in the way of performance - my P166MMX doesn't exactly fly in software mode.
Re:Slowest? Don't tempt me... (Score:1)
Although, would virtual memory count? It would probably drag the framerate down even further...
mirror (win32 only) (Score:1)
q3test_1_05.exe [optera.net]
Re:Anyone think Q3 would exists in a non-IP world? (Score:1)
Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users (Score:1)
Chris
Re:Not too different (Score:1)
linux version.
I have this to say:
win32 mouse is muuuuch smoother (anyone know
how to get it that smooth in linux)
win32 version looks like CRAP on the same
card (voodoo2). the rendering, especially the
textures and smoke fromt the rockets looks
absolutely awful. im not sure if its a driver
thing or what but the linux version looks 5x
better. (of course the g200 in windows looked
hella better then the voodoo2 in linux but at
barely half the speed
Anyone got ideas on either of these?
-N
Linux (Score:1)
Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users (Score:1)
Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users (Score:1)
Now, I doubt many (if any) of the people I talked to will stay... some had a reasonable deal of difficulty getting their systems going, and there was a lot of "What do you mean there aren't any good drivers for my sound card?" going on...
Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users (Score:1)
Re:linuxq3 1.05 dedicated servers? (Score:1)
Re:where are the 3dfx drivers for Linux? (Score:1)
Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users (Score:1)
Re:Win32, screwed again (Score:1)
I've got 6 gigs on two separate drives free on my dual boot machine. I've got over 5 gigs free on my dedicated Linux box. Yet I still can't play. Q3 won't run on the dedicated box (I use it as a gateway/ftp server; it's only a PPro 150), and I just bought a Voodoo3 card for the dual boot (an AMD K6-2/300).
So what should I do? Put the old Voodoo2 I took out and try to play on a PPro 150, or put the Voodoo2 and my old crappy 2d VGA card back into the fast machine so I can play Q3? It isn't a matter of disk space. There are lots of other ways Linux users can't play the newest Q3test. I have three times as much disk space formatted as ext2 partitions than I do FAT32 partitions, and I'm completely bummin'.
And while I got the rant all fired up: I don't mind saying that I feel a bit ripped off after buying the Voodoo3. Sure, it looks great in Windows (it's an amazing 2D card, way better than my three year old S3), but I'm still having trouble just getting 2D to work in Linux (much less 3D -- I'm coming to think it'll never be supported). I know you take your chances when you buy new hardware for Linux, but I figured 3Dfx would be different.
And I really hoped id software would stay different and at least attempt support for the Voodoo3. (I mean, how hard can it be? It's a friggin' overclocked Rush for cryin' out loud! The specs had to be out there somewhere...)
-B
Re:Mirror (multi T1) (Score:1)
I appreciate it
linuxq3 1.05 dedicated servers? (Score:1)
Re:linuxq3 1.05 dedicated servers? (Score:1)
--neil
Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? (Score:1)
r_textureMode "GL_NEAREST"
Q3Test will then look like crap compared to its former glory, but you'll be smooth enough to rocket-jump!
;-)
Re:Anyone think Q3 would exists in a non-IP world? (Score:1)
Re:Anyone think Q3 would exists in a non-IP world? (Score:1)
I don't know how much support is needed for a game. Probably not much. But they could give the client software away for free and charge people to use their servers. Q3 is useless without a server.
The server software could be kept seperate and never sold or distributed, and a system of franchises put in place with strict secrecy contacts for the server software. That way the copyright laws would never be needed (I think).
Rather like the secret formula for Coca-Cola...?
Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? (Score:2)
This is by no means authoritive (in other words I bodged it but got something working). Get q3test rpm installed and get the Mesa rpm as well. Then run linuxq3test with the command which reads something like "+set libMesa-3.0" (check README for syntax). I got it running at work today, hence the rush job! I'm running Win98 at the moment so I can't give you an accurate syntax...
However, if you don't have hardware acceleration you'll never be able to run q3 properly unless you have ~5,000 MHz machine
Especially among users of 3dfx hardware... (Score:1)
.deb avabilable (Score:1)
Re:Linux survival guide for Windows users (Score:1)
I've got mine. (Score:1)
Re:MIRROR WIN32 (Score:1)
Q3TEST Servers (Score:1)
I've seen a list on underworld.idsoftware.com but there is nothing now... ???
Re:MIRROR WIN32 (Score:1)
Let me say it again....
THANK YOU!!! YOU DA MAN!!! cdrom.com is getting crushed....4k... I got 60 FROM YA!!! jeesus....
Re:TNT support under linux... when? (Score:1)
But, on the other hand, as we all know.. It can take weeks. Even months....
And I hate to wait...
Re:P233 + quake (Score:1)
I am looking to upgrade from a diamond S3 w/ a voodoo1 to something with dual monitors and some sort of Voodoo2/3 card{,s}. 2D performance is more inportant but running Q3 comes in second. Could someone recomend an online hardware vendor that knows linux well? I remember seeing a URL to a couple of vendors that had "running linux" type icons on their web sites.
TIA
Christopher McCrory
Lead Bithead, Netus Inc.
chrismcc@netus.com
admin@netus.com
"Linux: Because rebooting is for adding new hardware"
"Linux: Because Dilbert's mom uses it"
P233 + quake (Score:1)
Re:Matrox G200 laments (Score:1)
I just did a fresh install of RedHat V6.0 last night and I had the same impression. My throughput with netscape 4.51 seems much better than it was under 5.2. I was blaming netscape the whole time, turns out it may have been the kernel.
Unfortunatly netscape still pulls it's occasional dissapearing trick on me....it's going along just fine...then poof...all gone. Ah well...bookmark often...:)
By the way, the install was toooooo easy...or maybe I'm just blessed...about a half hour from start to finish...no problems
Re:linuxq3 1.05 dedicated servers? (Score:1)
Re:If at first you don't succeed... (Score:1)
Moral of this story? Bagger computers are always availiable and you never know, you might stumble on something better. -jeff
ps. Now my stumbling block is just being a slacker.
Re:MIRROR WIN32 (Score:1)
Re:is there a way to make it run in software only? (Score:1)
(mine is at 24.131.182.112:27960
like they said on other posts you install libMesaGL but a step I saw somewhere that wasn't mentioned here (?) is to copy libMesaGL.so.3.1 to your
Once I did this it finally worked, then got a glorious
nVidia is supposed to release linux drivers for their TNT2 boards so that may be an option if you are adverse to 3dfx. (don't lets start the flame war over open source vs binary-only drivers again, I'm just making a comment, not advocating nVidia)
here's a URL for instructions (Score:1)
Re:Depends on what you consider "playable". (Score:1)
they already know (Score:1)
There's one known issue with the Linux dedicated server taking up way too much CPU time. As other known issues come to light we'll try to keep you all in the loop. Please try and email q3feedback with a good sensible subject line, mention what sort of system/OS you have, and remember that humans read all the feedback.
Re:Not too different (Score:1)
Re:MIRROR WIN32 (Thank you!) (Score:1)
You on ADSL or cable? (or work?
My little ADSL line is maxing out right now...
~120K per sec... Thank you!
TROLL!!! (Score:1)
You're making a statement about how you feel that slashdot should stick to Linux/BSD news instead of this pesky, frivolous Quake and Star Wars stuff.
Heaven forbid "News For Nerds" could also mean stuff that's fun.
I hear you. I'm sure Rob is working on a way for you to filter out all the entertaining news so you can stick to things like "New RTFMLib 0.89.01 Released".
Re:Win32, screwed again (Score:2)
It is NOT an overclocked RUSH.
It is basically a faster voodoo banshee with an extra texture unit.
ID doesn't support glide. They only use OpenGL, which has a library link to the glide library, which handles the hardware side of things.
If you want to bitch about support, do it to Daryll Strauss, or to 3dfx(they have to approve the drivers both legally and for compatibility).
If you read the documentation, all you need is libGL.so, which can be provided with your X server(accelX, metroX, etc), or use the libMesaGlide.so lib, which is and OpenGL implementation in glide.
MIRROR (Score:2)
http://www.ryans.dhs.org:1430/media
The mirrors didn't have the tarball yet, should be up later.
http://www.ryans.dhs.org
MIRROR WIN32 (Score:2)
All versions mirroed!
http://www.ryans.dhs.org
MIRROR -- all versions (Score:2)
[dhs.org]
http://www.ryans.dhs.org:1430/media
The server is a pentium 133 with ethernet to the backbone! Expect 50 - 150 KB/s download speeds.
Check the realtime load here [dhs.org].
http://www.ryans.dhs.org