Play Counter-Strike For Real 71
An anonymous reader writes "Fradley Airfield, England; A group of obsessive Counter-Strike fans are attempting to recreate one of the game's most popular maps, de_dust, for real. When the MDF masterpiece is complete, hopefully late this summer, the site will be used by paintballers dressed as Counter-Strike players who will battle it out over 4-5 weekends worth of paint splattered mayhem. A petition campaigning for someone to accurately recreate DOAX: Beach Volleyball is expected to be up and running within the week."
WTF H4X (Score:4, Funny)
thats nothing (Score:1, Offtopic)
Fantastic! (Score:1)
Do you want a head shot first though? Maybe its better to go for the limbs.
I'll win. (Score:2)
BTW I'm kidding, this would be very interesting to see.
The only way to keep wallhackers out? (Score:5, Funny)
Cheers for the effort, although I think you'll still get people bunny-jumping.
-n
Re:The only way to keep wallhackers out? (Score:1, Funny)
Re:The only way to keep wallhackers out? (Score:3, Funny)
* The 'sit around and wheeze behind a box' evasion technique.
* Cellular Phone + Binoculars 'ghosting'
* 'Throw up from being winded' diversion
What suckers are going to play the hostages?
Will shooting them out of spite lose you points?
-n
Re:The only way to keep wallhackers out? (Score:1)
But I want to see the thing, which will be used to bomb the targets. Some kind of mega-paint-bomb, perhaps
realism (Score:1)
I want to see pics.. (Score:2)
Re:I want to see pics.. (Score:2)
I was thinking it might be better if they used those laser guns like in laser quest. Perhaps they can get them like sniper rifles and everything like that. A lot cheaper too I expect in the long term.
Hmm, wonder if they'll use real smoke grenades....
Re:I want to see pics.. (Score:2)
hmm
I'm not sure how you would get good positioning. One way to do it is to use differential gps, but that might be too expensive, and
Commercial appeal? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Commercial appeal? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Commercial appeal? (Score:2, Insightful)
Since CS is designed to be fairly realistic, I think the games translates well into paintball. Of course, you'd need to scale down the map for it to be playable by humans. No human wants to sprint the 100+ "meters" like I do from spawn on de_dust. Plus, by scaling down the lengths and heights, those impossible jumps become possible.
Re:Commercial appeal? (Score:2)
Re:Commercial appeal? (Score:2)
de_train, de_nuke and others require patience, teamwork, etc. They might translate into fantastic paintball arenas. Of course, none of this is ever going to happen anyway, so...
Re:Commercial appeal? (Score:2)
Re:Commercial appeal? (Score:2)
That would be "for real"... (Score:2, Insightful)
Where are the pics? (Score:5, Insightful)
1) Chosen site
2) Plans
3) Who's paying for the construction costs
4) Pictures
etc.
I mean, if you're going to hype it up, give us something to be hyped about. I'm not buying plane tickets 2 months in advanced if I can't be sure to see a spectacle.
Re:Where are the pics? (Score:1)
Re:Where are the pics? (Score:1)
Re:Where are the pics? (Score:1)
Re:Where are the pics? (Score:1)
choice of map (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:choice of map (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:choice of map (Score:2)
I've always hated de_dust, for that very reason. I've never understood why it was so popular.
On the other hand, It would be one of the easiest ones to build.
Re:choice of map (Score:1)
Agreed. I think that de_dust2 would be a better choice. It's still a very popular map, but you don't need incredible speed to control certian potions of it and the connectivity is great. Were as in de_dust everybody just meets at the same two spots and dukes it out every time.
The obvious down side is that de_dust2
Re:choice of map (Score:1)
I think creating a map is a neat idea, but another part of me thinks that an area designed
Re:choice of map (Score:2)
Having said that, I have always enjoyed playing both of them despite being unbalanced.
Thought thank goodness I have finally retired from that blasted game. I was begining to pay it in my sleep.
Re:choice of map (Score:1)
I love de_dust because it's fast and that keeps me interested in playing...sure, the CT's can get to the tunnel faster, but I've never seen that stop a talented T team. Either way, it's easy to fix it by slightly modifying the "real life" map to make the T run a little shorter.
And if you don't like running that much, well...time to save up and buy the AWP :)
Storm the front!
Eeewww... (Score:3, Funny)
I'm sure a TON of bikini clad babes will sign up for that!
"Accurately recreate", HAHaha!
Remind me stay far far away from whatever beach ya'll will be using for this.
Re:Eeewww... (Score:2, Insightful)
I can see it now (Score:3, Funny)
"Go B" "GO B" "Go B"
"howd they kill me so fast?!"
"Shit Bubba, broke his leg!"
"leave him, there comming!"
"But hes got the bomb!"
"take it"
Bubba:
"No, ill be ok, im still at 50%, there just n00bz you know"
Wow! (Score:2, Interesting)
This sounds like a great idea! Not too long ago, me and my friends were talking about how we should set up a paintball match instead of getting together for the usual Halo night we have every month or so. Going back to the basics and actually playing CTF in a real environment, with real pain would really make you play harder and smarter. Back in the day we used to frequent some nice outdoor arenas as well as some close quarter indoor events.
I think it's pure brilliance to have CS maps translated to r
de_dust? (Score:2, Funny)
Thinking about it, it seems it would be very difficult to reconstruct any CS map realistically at all. in Dust, I could see maybe recreating the area where the CTs start, but to do the entire map would be a huge expense to do it correctly. I mean, how would you create the bridge? Are they actually building a stone bridge? While they're at it, h
How about the opposite? (Score:4, Interesting)
Hmmm.. Video game Aim in RL... (Score:1)
This would probably be a blast, but not terribly competitive. Sure, you might get to the checkpoint first, but you still have to HIT the opponent with your paintballs, and I doubt a ton of computer jockeys are very good at that.
I'll definitely be watc
Re:Hmmm.. Video game Aim in RL... (Score:1)
For example, FPS's like counter-strike improve your vision [bbc.co.uk], so you can see better and even aim faster(because you'd be better at finding your target).
Re:Hmmm.. Video game Aim in RL... (Score:1)
I dunno, I think the results will be less than impressive as far as player performance goes. Strategy and tactics are the tools of people who are competant in the basic skills of the contest they engage in, not a replacement for them. Especially paintball which isn't quite accurate to begin with.
Wait wait! SPAM!!! what was I thinking, they'll be awesome at it
Re:Hmmm.. Video game Aim in RL... (Score:1)
Re:Hmmm.. Video game Aim in RL... (Score:1)
CSers will suck at paintball (Score:4, Informative)
Crossmap headshots ("snipping") is nearly impossible with paintguns. At long range, the paint loses velocity and won't break.
The other common cs tactic is shooting at point blank range...which is a BIG paintball no-no. Most fields require that you yell out "surrender!" instead...but years of CS makes for an itchy trigger finger.
And let's not even think about all the broken legs as people try to jump down ramps, etc...
Finally, the "rushing" tactic so common in CS is suicide in PB. No lag to save you during the sudden encounters that ensue. Winning requires MUCH different tactics (accurate shooting, stealth, knowing how to take cover, etc).
And at most fields *any* hit disqualifies you. You get hit on the back heal of your shoe and you're out. (Of course, you can "remedy" this by becoming a "wiper" - something that the vast majority of CS players will do I'm sure).
Indeed, hard-core CSers with no PB experience are in for a shock. The skills are NOT transferable.
On the other hand...maybe the field will set up a "variant" with weird CS inspired rules (only chest and headshots kill, for example). But then, people who actually want to do something lame like that might as well join a "heavy weapons" SCA club or something.
Re:CSers will suck at paintball (Score:1)
Re:CSers will suck at paintball (Score:2)
Plus some other posters *are* implying that CS skills and strategies are transferable.
Plus I friggin hate counter strike.
Re:CSers will suck at paintball (Score:2, Insightful)
Obviously playing CS isn't going to prepare you for all the sprinting, but you would have faster reaction times. I also think "CSers" would be used to team work and know where to look for them damn campers...
I think the strategies are transferable also. The rushing strategy can actually be very effective in paintball. I know I played one arena in which the "expert" paintballers were adamant that we get to a certain point before the opposite team.
The mental skills of CS do t
Re:CSers will suck at paintball (Score:2)
The real question is: what happens when they arrive at the rushed-to location. Someone emulating CS tactics will immediately see an enemy and start shooting...and then find themselves tattooed from several different directions.
I also think "CSers" would be used to team work and know where to look for them damn campers...
Nothing p
Re:CSers will suck at paintball (Score:1)
Perhaps you were just playing on the wrong se
Re:CSers will suck at paintball (Score:2)
Whenever I played counter-strike cautiously - i.e finding a good hiding place and sneaking up an people - I would get hit with a torrent of insults such as "c@mper" and "f@g." Your definition On the vast majority of servers, players who don't "rushrushrush GO!" but instead stake out the objective points are lambasted as "campers."
I did find one server - [TOC] - their motto was "camping is
Re:CSers will suck at paintball (Score:1)
There's a difference? ;-)
Actually, I stopped using the awp when they took away the one-shot kill feature. I loved pegging someone in the foot and them falling over dead... It's not the one-shot kill
I totally agree (Score:2)
Actually, this may be not so far from reality. In paintball games, you are to yell out, "surrender!", but you *may* fire. How do I know this? One game my gun jammed, and I had no choice but to dash in and force people to surrender. After 3 "kills", I snuck up on one person and, at point blank range y
Paintball vs. Video Games (Score:1)
Easier (Score:2)
Rimshot (Score:1)
Why paintball? (Score:5, Informative)
Airsoft guns are authentic-looking firearm replicas which shoot 6mm plastic BBs either by using compressed air or gas as propellant. Most electric compressed air guns are have selectable full-/semi-auto operation and gas-operated semiautomatic pistols load a new round by realistically recoiling the slide (which in most guns locks back after the last round is fired). Just about every gun featured on CS is also available as an airsoft gun (the Five-seveN, AWM and Scout are not, AFAIK).
Take a look at these guns [arniesairsoft.co.uk] which have been reviewed at a popular UK news site. Also, airsoft players tend to aim for ultimate realism in combat gear. Teams such as Team Red Cell [arniesairsoft.co.uk] or Team 2 Hit 6 [pct.net] display great dedication to their hobby and the photos of them in action may just as well be of actual HRT/SOG operations (note that every pic in which they have their goggles off are posed - eye protection is mandatory during gameplay).
Most games, independent of their length in time, can be described as one team attempting to accomplish an objective ("bomb" a target, seize a hill, clear a building, etc) whereas the other tries to stop them. Pretty much what people do on CS, right? I've also designed and built a "bomb simulator" [paranoia.tuug.fi] which mimics the bomb on CS as closely as possible. :)
Oh yeah, close-quarters battle with paintball guns isn't nice - getting shot at a range of less than 10ft makes really nasty big bleeding bruises. Although airsoft BBs do have a greater velocity, their inertia is smaller due to a small mass (0.2g to 0.43g, depends on which you use) and they impact on a smaller area. This makes the hits sting but usually they just slightly break the skin (through a camo BDU, of course). Do note that airsoft guns don't leave paint marks so each player must play honestly and call themselves out if they're hit - people who play in "godmode" are not looked well upon.
Re:Why paintball? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Why paintball? (Score:2)
Why are they going to play paintball there? If they're aiming for an ultimate CS experience, they should be playing airsoft instead.
And finished with the answer:
Do note that airsoft guns don't leave paint marks so each player must play honestly and call themselves out if they're hit - people who play in "godmode" are not looked well upon.(Emphasis is mine)
That's all there is to it, really. We are, after all, talking about Counter Strike.
Re:Why paintball? (Score:1)
Makes ya go hmm... (Score:1)
Re:Makes ya go hmm... (Score:2)
Re:why does anyone like CS? (Score:2)
If you thought telling the teams apart in CS is difficult! In AA the difference between the teams is a camo pattern on your team and a flat pattern on the enemy...try to tell the difference in the dark and from a distance.
Re:why does anyone like CS? (Score:2)
Easier said than done... (Score:2)
Have you any idea of the amount of silicon it would take to power that?
Why paintball... (Score:1)
If you don't know what I'm talking about. Go someplace like www.redwolfairsoft.com and find out.
No haxo4ing? (Score:2)
So, is this thing going to have the sky-walking hack too? Maybe they need to paint the sky the same as de_dust on a big dome covering "the map" and have a big plexi-glass or glass platform above the level so u can b
You know what would be cool? (Score:1)
Headshot (Score:1)
Great. (Score:2)
- The AWP Whore - The Master of a weapon everyone hates.
- The Hacker - Can't play CS and master it on his own so he cheats his way to a greater self-esteem.
- The Server Admin with a God Complex - Usually 12 years old and loves to run the admin_rape or admin_llama command on anyone at the drop of a hat.
- The Whiner - No bottles of wine here! This person loves to whine about people who are kicking his ass and can't figure out how to get better at the game.
- The Camp