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Sony Hints on PS3, PSP, and PS2 Plans 230

jaaron writes "The Register/GamesIndustry.biz reports on what Sony may have in store in terms of gaming hardware for E3, and according to remarks from Sony Computer Entertainment Europe president David Reeves: 'PSP games will probably be region-free, that PS3 will be intrinsically linked with PSX and may appear in home server and standalone gaming versions, and... Sony may announce a stripped down, PSone-style PlayStation 2 product.'" The interview also mentions: "Looking further ahead, Reeves spoke about Sony's 'ultimate goal' for PlayStation 3 - 'to get into electronic broadband distribution'."
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Sony Hints on PS3, PSP, and PS2 Plans

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  • Sega TV! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by caffeineboy ( 44704 ) <<ude.uso> <ta> <22.eromdiks>> on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:50PM (#8747489)
    anyone remember this?

    This time maybe it could work!
    (for longer anyway)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:50PM (#8747490)
    Ooh man, I don't think Sony would ever be able to compete with Infinium Labs....
  • by onyxruby ( 118189 ) * <onyxrubyNO@SPAMcomcast.net> on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:51PM (#8747495)
    Thought here on the region free aspect. Could they be doing this to try and remove the most widely stated fair use reason for mod chips? Eliminate the need for a mod chip to play discs from other regions and you've just made a big impact on the perceived legitamacy of mod chips on the whole.
    • by Eu4ria ( 110578 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:53PM (#8747516)
      Especially if they also allow any code to run on the system and maybe even make an SDK available. That way anybody could make homebrew stuff for the system and thus seel even more units.
      • If they allowed homebrew code then there would be no need for the modchip argument anyway. Software "modchips" would be freely available. Region free is a good bet. I think that mod chips will get away with the "legitimate backup" issue, be that a good thing or a bad thing.
      • Sony, like Microsoft and Nintendo, is in the business of selling games, accessories and getting royalties from those, not from selling consoles.

        I'm not sure if any of the parties make much money from the consoles themselves, I know supposedly Microsoft bleeds for every XBox sold, I really don't know how much that applies for Nintendo or Sony now.
      • a good bet is that they won't.

        they have not hinted at it, and it certainly isn't a general purpose device that would need such anyways to be succesful. they're probably going the nintendo(as with gameboy) route with it, meaning that they're the only ones who can make manufacture the games anyways(the physical medium).

        if you want offically accepted 'homebrew', buy a gp32 or n-gage(or some other series60 phone if you're geek fashion touchy, any bozo can even apply for official symbian application uid's! eve
    • by Maestro4k ( 707634 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:56PM (#8747559) Journal
      • Thought here on the region free aspect. Could they be doing this to try and remove the most widely stated fair use reason for mod chips? Eliminate the need for a mod chip to play discs from other regions and you've just made a big impact on the perceived legitamacy of mod chips on the whole.
      Probably not, they only talk about the PSP being region-free, and that's the Sony's new portable. Portables aren't as easy to mod as a console box. The article on The Register's site doesn't say anything about the PS3 being region-free.
    • by Echnin ( 607099 ) <{p3s46f102} {at} {sneakemail.com}> on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:59PM (#8747585) Homepage
      Portables are usually region-free... GB is, at least.
    • The biggest potential improvement is the removal of the screaming, shrieking synth noise when you start the PS2.
  • by capz loc ( 752940 ) <capzloc@gma[ ]com ['il.' in gap]> on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:52PM (#8747502)
    PlayStation 5! [theonion.com]
  • PS^3 (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:53PM (#8747519)
    Would it be neat if Gamecube and Playstation merged to become Playstation cubed (PS^3).
  • At last! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by SoTuA ( 683507 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:54PM (#8747531)
    "probably [..] games will come out with no regional coding"

    Well, at least they'll get _SOMETHING_ right.

    Any PSP movies, however, will probably have to remain region protected, even if Hollywood decides to back the UMD format for distribution, although there may be other incentives to buying movies this way.

    Oh well :(

  • by Maestro4k ( 707634 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:54PM (#8747532) Journal
    From the article and talking about it linking to the PSX, it doesn't really sound like they're considering the PS3 to be a next-gen console, but something else. Frankly it sounds strange linking it to the PSX which is based on PS2 technology gaming-wise. It should be quite interesting to hear what Sony has in mind for the PS3, but right now it's sounding like they might be about to screw up and give Microsoft and Nintendo a chance to grab more of the console market.
    • They said they would release a regular version of the PS3 for around 200 Euros, which they said would be for people who just wanted a next-gen console. So obviously, if the stripped down version is a next gen console, so must be the version with all the bells and whistles (or dancing and singing as they called it!)
    • Found this article http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/03/31/news_60926 05.html referring to blue-laser disc technology on the PS3 "Currently, BD-ROMs can hold up to 25GB of data--about five times the volume of a standard DVD disc--and double-layered 50GB BD-ROMs will be appearing within the year"
    • by *weasel ( 174362 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @01:18PM (#8747734)
      This sounds more like Sony marketing to me. Remember all the promises they made regarding the PS2, during the run-up to, and launch of, the Dreamcast?

      This is likely just Sony throwing smoke to steal the thunder from Microsoft, and snow the existing Sony userbase into thinking the PS3 will be much better than it really will be (just like PS2 v DC).

      Either way, two versions of the same console would be gimmicky at best. It'd have the same problem all add-on hardware does: developers can't count on possibly expanded functionality being there on every box, so they don't spend time/money to leverage it in a meaningful way.

      So there would be no reason for the average consumer to buy a psx+ps3 instead of just buying a ps3 and a tivo.

      Perhaps they're trying to push microsoft and nintendo into budling expensive multifunction bits into their boxes -- allowing sony to punish them on unit price and take the 'high-road' of selling a box that 'just does games'.

      Likely the only way Sony will 'screw up' the PS3 and allow Nintendo/MS to reclaim some of the market due their own bad decisions - is if the Cell continues to be behind, and they show up late to market with an outmatched product.

      It's much more likely that any market share reclaimed by Nintendo/MS will be due /their/ own maneuvering - as opposed to Sony screwups.
      • Either way, two versions of the same console would be gimmicky at best. It'd have the same problem all add-on hardware does: developers can't count on possibly expanded functionality being there on every box, so they don't spend time/money to leverage it in a meaningful way.

        You mean like the PS2 and PSX? Developers aren't supposed to use the expanded functionality in the PSX, so your argument is moot.

        So there would be no reason for the average consumer to buy a psx+ps3 instead of just buying a ps3 and a
      • This sounds more like Sony marketing to me. Remember all the promises they made regarding the PS2, during the run-up to, and launch of, the Dreamcast?

        I think it's a case of "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" here. Two wrongs rarely make a right, but in this case, more power to Sony. Because I know MICROS~1 would pull the same shit if they were on top. Hell, they'd probably do that in any event.

        Personally, I think there should be more games for the GameCube. Every time I look at the

      • This is likely just Sony throwing smoke to steal the thunder from Microsoft,

        Which would be fair enough, if Microsoft had any thunder to steal.
  • by ryanwright ( 450832 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:55PM (#8747538)
    Unsurprisingly, Reeves came out strongly in defence of the PSP as its own product and not a Game Boy replacement. "It's not, as people have said, a new Game Boy," he said. "There are so many other features that you can add onto it, whether it's GPS or GPRS even."

    I can't decide if this is cool or not. A GPS receiver and cellular phone attached to my portable gaming device? What for?

    Now, if it had a touchscreen, Palm OS, and a secure way to copy my games onto the device so I don't have to carry them around with me everywhere... then we're talking.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      I bet some one could come up with a fun game where you have to go some where in specific, maybe like a spy game, and you talk to other "agents" via your cell phone attachment, agree on a dead drop place and both use gps to get there. of course you won't wanna play with strangers ;P
  • by b12arr0 ( 3064 ) * on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:55PM (#8747539) Homepage
    I'm already bored with the PS3 stuff. I like to look ahead. I'm interested in the PS4/Microwave/Can Opener/Satellite Radio Combo. Definately want the stand-alone on something like that.
  • by blcamp ( 211756 )
    ...are just lower prices for games, especially new releases.

    US $50 is simply too much for a new PS2 game.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:59PM (#8747580)
      where've you been?
    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 02, 2004 @01:07PM (#8747640)
      > US $50 is simply too much for a new PS2 game.

      Really? How much time do you spend with a typical game?

      Considering going to a movie for 90 minutes is usually going to set you back at least $15 when you include admission and transportation, good video games are a bargain. I've logged hundreds of hours playing Ratchet and Clank, Socom II, and Dynasty Warriors alone.
    • Some games (can't remember which ones, but a few) have released at around $40.

      One new game (Beyond Good And Evil) released at $40, then just a few months later (after Christmas) was down to $10-$20.

      At $10 for such a great game, who could resist? I bought one, and I'm sure they made a killing.
    • ...are just lower prices for games, especially new releases.

      US $50 is simply too much for a new PS2 game.


      Argh, how does a comment like this get modded "insightful"?

      First of all, N64 games listed at $69.99-$79.99 when the system was first released. Prior to that, Sega Genesis games sold for up to $80 (Phantasy Star IV being an example). The original Warcraft on PC had an MSRP over $50 (check this month's 10th Anniversary PC Gamer for confirmation). Going back further, most Atari 2600 titles retai
      • know nothing about video game history and/or economics

        How many Atari 2600's were out there in 1977?

        How many PS2's are out there today>

        It's called Economies of Scale. According to Economic theory, shouldn't games be cheaper now? Or maybe not, since there's historical proof that people will pay these outrageous amounts.
      • Completely and utterly irrelevant.

        Him: Games are too expensive.
        You: No they're not, they've always been expensive.

        See? Doesn't make sense.
    • Yeah and they should lower the developers pay rate too!
  • by enrico_suave ( 179651 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:59PM (#8747583) Homepage
    "Looking further ahead, Reeves spoke about Sony's "ultimate goal" for PlayStation 3 - "to get into electronic broadband distribution"."

    I hope to god Sony's attempt at online delivery is way better than Steam. *shudder*

    e.

    • I'm a little concerned that their distribution plans and potentially that their "Grid" (formerly "Cell") technology won't work if it too heavily relies on high bandwith. It said at the end of the article that they are counting on 2-3 Mbs data transfer rates. And Ken Katsuragi (sp?) is banking on 30Mbs!

      The best average speed I get on my cable modem is about 120kbs. I think we're a ways of from actual >1Mbs download speeds on average.

      Still, I can't wait to get my hands on a PS3. : )
      • A few corrections Crix:

        If you download at 120k/s then you're actually downloading at ROUGHLY 1200 kbps... Which is over the 1Mbps barried you refer to above. The part where you're getting confused is w/ Kilobit and Kilobyte, and likewise with Megabit and Megabyte...

        A 1.5mbps line on can download at roughtly 150k/s.

        And SnappyDSL *COFS.net* is releasing a 3Mbps DSL line *Yes - I did say DSL* in FL and w/in the next 3 months one in GA. So I don't think its that far away at all...

        Never know though...
    • "Looking further ahead, Reeves spoke about Sony's "ultimate goal" for PlayStation 3 - "to get into electronic broadband distribution"."
      I hope to god Sony's attempt at online delivery is way better than Steam. *shudder*

      Maybe they'll license some phantom technology from these guys [infiniumlabs.com] instead!

  • by Anonymous Coward
    You guys are so behind. I just bought myself a Samy Playstation 4 i Hong Kong!
  • by zombiestomper ( 228123 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:59PM (#8747592) Homepage Journal
    Hopping on the Infinium Labs bandwagon?

    IL didn't and doesn't have a Phantom console, they were selling this concept.

    I wouldn't be the least surprised if Sony acquires IL for 'intellectual capital' that they've already compiled from 'researching' this market strategy.

    My guess is that it was IL's plan all along, don't sell a product-- just an idea.
  • I kept eye-balling PS2s on sale here there and yonder. I'm very tempted to buy one. Then I think about how long the PS2 has been on the street and I decide that maybe I should wait until the PS3 comes out. The only question is when?!
    • Re:When?! (Score:3, Informative)

      by gabebear ( 251933 )
      It looks like mid 2006.

      the fabs Sony/IBM are building for the Cell-chips will not be ready until early 2006.

      • 2006? Yikes! That's a long time to go without an update to their product line. The PS3 better be a billy badass when it comes out. It had better be *something* to account for this lengthy delay. I guess I'll go ahead and spring for a PS2. They are pretty cheap now.
    • Re:When?! (Score:5, Informative)

      by Maestro4k ( 707634 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @01:14PM (#8747694) Journal
      • I kept eye-balling PS2s on sale here there and yonder. I'm very tempted to buy one. Then I think about how long the PS2 has been on the street and I decide that maybe I should wait until the PS3 comes out. The only question is when?!
      Honestly I'd get the PS2 now and not worry about the PS3. Estimates so far place the PS3 no earlier than 2006, and their are tons of great games for the PS2. You can also play most of the PS1 games (there's a list of ones that don't work quite right, but it's only about 20 or so, and most aren't very popular ones. Final Fantasy Origins is one of the popular ones that won't FYI.). You can also use it as a DVD player if you don't have one, or if you want one in your gaming room.

      The PS3 will be backwards compatible with PS2 and PS1 games, Sony's already announced that, so if you decide to get one in the future you can use it on all the games you already bought. The main reason I suggest buying the PS2 now is price. When the PS3 comes out, it'll probably cost at least $300. Right now you can get a brand new PS2 for $180, and if you get the network adaptor bundle (also comes with a copy an ATV racing game you can play online) it's just $200. The network adaptor alone is $40, so the bundles the best deal if you intend to play online.

      The only waiting I'd recommend is till after E3, there's a good chance Sony will lower the PS2's price to match or beat Xbox's new price of $150.

      • Game stop has some pre-owned bundles starting at $140 (although they don't have the network adaptor). I'd say get a PS2 and don't wait, because it's likely to be a LONG wait.

        I agree with my parrent post to wain untill after E3 because prices are likely to change. And if a new system becomes $150, a used one is likely to get even cheaper.

  • PS3 home server? (Score:3, Informative)

    by mr.capaneus ( 582891 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @01:02PM (#8747612)
    I really hope Sony doesn't spend too much time screwing around with the home server. They just need to concentrate on making a solid console with some good games, especially at launch.
  • Beh (Score:3, Insightful)

    by thebra ( 707939 ) * on Friday April 02, 2004 @01:09PM (#8747653) Homepage Journal
    Game consoles are supposed to be simple, turn on - insert disc - play game. Sounds like you might as well just buy a computer.
    • Game consoles are supposed to be simple, turn on - insert disc - play game. Sounds like you might as well just buy a computer.

      Which is why Sony also make the Vaio [vaio.net] range of AV computers, and have also been working with [macrumors.com] Apple [apple.com], arguably the current masters of digital convergence.

      Personally I've taken the most complicated middle road and put a Mod Chip [teamxecuter.com] in my XBox [teamxecuter.com], installed the GPL Xbox Media Centre [xboxmediacenter.com] and stuck it on my mixed system home network, so it can now play an crazy number of media formats [xboxmediacenter.com].

  • by Albert Sandberg ( 315235 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @01:11PM (#8747663) Homepage
    Ever since I heard XBox was coming with a broadband adaptor and ps2 likewise, I've been wondering what makes it so big buzz.

    I'm a programming dork myself mostly, I hardly play games at all, and I must confess I like singleplayer the best. When I'm finding myself playing, it's mostly because of relaxation. I don't want to communicate with other users. I don't want to play stressful FPS's against other computer/tv-games player. It just gets my nerves going in a spin I can't controll and that's actually exhausting, I can't play for more than an hour or I'll get all fuzzy in my head.

    I just want to sit down, drink some coffee and run a few laps around the course in GT3 or bash some cars in GTA3. If I want to play multiplayer, I'd much more prefer to do it together, like playing the "Pro Evolution Soccer" game at my friends house or batteling eachother in "dance dance revolution" or such similar game.

    I certanly see why people enjoy multiplayer, but I don't like the idea that I need to cough up with $50 more for the network adapter and god-know-how many hours of development which goes into the console for developing this.

    Maybe I'm just "old fashioned", after all, I'm closing 30 ;-) But what's bad with a choice?

    Albert
    Spellchecked by my cat Zelda.
    • by Maestro4k ( 707634 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @01:21PM (#8747758) Journal
      • I'm a programming dork myself mostly, I hardly play games at all, and I must confess I like singleplayer the best. When I'm finding myself playing, it's mostly because of relaxation. I don't want to communicate with other users. I don't want to play stressful FPS's against other computer/tv-games player. It just gets my nerves going in a spin I can't controll and that's actually exhausting, I can't play for more than an hour or I'll get all fuzzy in my head.

        I just want to sit down, drink some coffee and run a few laps around the course in GT3 or bash some cars in GTA3. If I want to play multiplayer, I'd much more prefer to do it together, like playing the "Pro Evolution Soccer" game at my friends house or batteling eachother in "dance dance revolution" or such similar game.

        I certanly see why people enjoy multiplayer, but I don't like the idea that I need to cough up with $50 more for the network adapter and god-know-how many hours of development which goes into the console for developing this.

        Maybe I'm just "old fashioned", after all, I'm closing 30 ;-) But what's bad with a choice?

      You're not alone or old fashioned, nor old (I'm 32, so don't even say you're old. :) I too prefer playing single player, or co-op multiplayer with friends I know (generally at one of our places, not online). However, a few of the online games out now are tempting me. FFXI is supposed to have a story that each player can experience on their own. I want to see the story of FFXI, and I can see joining up with others for leveling between "episodes" (for lack of a better word) as useful. I don't see my playing it after I've finished it story-wise though.

      Still, the focus on multi-player and online gaming worries me too. I'm afraid game companies are going to forget that there are still plenty of people happy playing single-player, offline games.

    • An integrated network adapter should cost essentially nothing. A modular one is more expensive to make, and most of their cost was markup anyway. At most, this is a $5/console difference.

      The decision on including a hard disk is a little different, as hard disks actually cost something to produce. Network adapter is pretty much about "can we make them pay for one more accessory?" vs. "can we sell more consoles by including this".

      I'd like an adapter for my GameCube. I wouldn't use it to game online, but
    • I'm the same way for the most part, but one FPS game I love to play is named "Day Of Defeat" (Half-life mod) and although it is a fast paced game and takes some time to get used to, once you have it's so addictive, well, I've been playing it exclusively now for 3 years (I don't own, or want a PS/2.). You can buy DOD retail alone in stores (without halflife) although it does come with the engine for halflife, so you can get the other mods if you want. Retail price is about $15..

      If DOD was released fo
    • You have no idea what your missing.

      Background: I'm 34, make my living in creative tech, been addicted video games since Asteriods.

      Simply put, after Xbox Live, there is no going back. Everynight, I get to play with the best players in the game regardless of where they are. I'm in Los Angeles, they could be in Miami or even the UK. But in reality, it makes no difference. They might as well be sitting right next to me. Their player is right there on my widescreen, in my living room! We're competing in real t
      • > Everynight, I get to play with the best players in the game

        Y'see, that's the problem. People who play online tend to be a lot more skilled than me. There are a few reasons for this, but it boils down to the fact that my game playing time is extremely limited (I consider 5-6 hours over a week to be a lot), because I'm too busy doing other stuff. The people that play online tend to both put more time in, and just care more about how good they are.

        So, while I think on-line gaming will continue to be rea
    • I think this simply the same idea as trying to force people to buy cell phones with cameras. They are more expensive, and not everyone uses cameras, but hey, if it you can force the people to buy it, then great! You can't really do that with cell phones yet, but with consoles I can see them getting away with it, especially since most consoles are sold as loss-leaders, with the money made up via game licensing.

      It's also feature upselling. Maybe you didn't know about online games but now its a feature on
  • by MickyJ ( 188652 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @01:18PM (#8747732) Homepage Journal
    PSP games will
    probably be region-free... may appear in home server and standalone gaming versions...Sony may announce a stripped down, PSone-style PlayStation 2 product...

    So things are definetely decided then?
  • by The Other White Boy ( 626206 ) <theotherwhiteboy&gmail,com> on Friday April 02, 2004 @01:26PM (#8747798)
    the PSone-style PS2. i used to have a PS2 (sold it a while back), and recently got a new car and was considering throwing a PSone/screen combo in there since its only like $90...but a PS2 version would be ever so nice, especially if it keeps the PSone backwards compatibility.
    • the PSone-style PS2. i used to have a PS2 (sold it a while back), and recently got a new car and was considering throwing a PSone/screen combo in there since its only like $90...

      As a sort of "onboard entertainment" for my kids on longer routes, I use a combo of an iBook 466 (used to be my workhorse, now it's our family "hand-me-down" laptop) + car charger + Virtual Gamestation (a PSX emulator for MacOS 9.x) + MacAlly iShock II (USB clone of the Sony's iShock). It's better than PSOne + screen, as it can a
  • Maybe they'll remove all the breakable parts...
  • This blows. (Score:4, Funny)

    by mac os ken ( 732050 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @02:04PM (#8748238) Homepage Journal
    Pulling out an internal hard drive and blowing on it to get it to work just isn't the same. ::sigh::
  • I was really getting turned of by the PS3=jack of all trades (master of none) talk out of Sony. I hate "all in one" stuff. The idea that there will be a PS3 that just plays the damn games is good news.
  • Will the PS3 and other next-generation offerings from console makes finally spell an end to PC Gaming?

    I could never understand why people spent upwards of $3,000-$4,000 on a PC when they could buy a $200 console, all the acessories, and a big screen for far less.

    Am I missing something that makes a PC more atractive than a PS3 with a fast graphics card, HD, and braodband connection?
  • More control (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Amigori ( 177092 ) * <eefranklin718 AT yahoo DOT com> on Friday April 02, 2004 @02:17PM (#8748382) Homepage
    Control, Control, Control! That seems to be the message from most media companies lately. Sony wants to control the whole chain, from production to playback, right now, the only thing Sony doesn't have is an ISP. Who knows, maybe they'll buy Earthlink or ATT Worldnet. Guess what Sony? This complete control scheme didn't work for Beta or MiniDisc or MemoryStick or MagicGate or whatever else you can think of. Why do you seem to think that its going to work with this new generation of products? Because you're pitching it to Hollywood as a "secure" solution? One that has all of the known pitfalls worked out of it? Somehow I don't think its going to work. Why? Because I'm not going to buy your crappy overpriced box. I don't like your PS2 so why should I buy a PSP or PS3? So I can have yet another monthly service bill for a service that I don't need or want? I don't think so. and I don't want to spend $300 on a system that's going to be stripped down and probably act like the games in the hotels that are at least $5/hr to play.

    If it ever gets to the point that I can't purchase a system and a game and outright play them at no cost beyond the initial costs, then I'm going back to books and media that do not have recurring costs and subscription fees. Otherwise, I already have enough monthly bills to deal with, telephone, insurance, rent, utilities, etc., I certainly don't need one dealing with entertainment. The only reason I have a cable bill is for my broadband connection. My cable tv is the most basic package that I can get because I don't want a $120/mo cable bill. What are those theories that competition brings prices down? I certainly haven't seen it with the 500 channels competing against one another, target markets and demographics be damned, my cable bill has only gone up, so it was time to get rid of it. Sorry for the rant....
    Amigori

  • by TerraFrost ( 611855 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @02:20PM (#8748411)
    according to a gamespot article [gamespot.com], Sony is also considering using Blu-Ray drives in the PS3...
  • by payndz ( 589033 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @04:27PM (#8749820)
    Psht, no attraction for me, then. I buy all my games second-hand to stick it to The Man!

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