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The word from Gamasutra is that Sony is boasting 1 million PS3s shipped. They hope to have 6 million units out the door by the end of this year. This came from Sony's CES press conference, which only touched briefly on their new system. Hints were, though, that they'll be rolling out an IPTV system for many of their consumer electronics via the Xross GUI already in use on the PSP and PS3. From the article: "According to the company, the majority of new Sony televisions -- starting with several Bravia flat-panel LCD TVs this spring -- will accept an attachable module that can stream broadband high-definition and other Internet video content with the press of a remote control button. The module will be available this summer, and content will come from sources including AOL, Yahoo! and Grouper, now part of Sony Pictures Entertainment, as well as Sony Pictures itself and Sony BMG - however, none of this streaming video content has yet been confirmed for the PlayStation 3."
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1 Million PlayStation 3s Shipped

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  • 1 million shipped (Score:2, Informative)

    by banuk (148382)
    prolly 100k sitting on the shelves, the wii turned out to be more popular in the end
    • by j00r0m4nc3r (959816) on Monday January 08, 2007 @12:23PM (#17510254)
      They actually only have around 20 units that they shipped back and forth 50,000 times
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      prolly 100k sitting on the shelves, the wii turned out to be more popular in the end

      The interesting thing is that Sony said:

      " ... United States up to the end of 2006, still promising 6 million worldwide by the end of March 2007."

      So over the next 3 months Sony plans to ship an additional 3.5 Million PS3 systems. Now if you were to assume 1 Million units for Europe that still means that 2.5 Million PS3 systems have to be shipped to North America and Japan over the next 3 months. Personally, I wonder how many
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      It's a marathon, not a sprint. You might be surprised at how the market looks at the end of 2007. The 2 consoles haven't even been out for 2 months yet. There are no winners or losers yet, just leaders. It's a long race. Now return to your parents' basement where you belong.
      • by HappySqurriel (1010623) on Monday January 08, 2007 @12:42PM (#17510624)
        It's a marathon, not a sprint. You might be surprised at how the market looks at the end of 2007. The 2 consoles haven't even been out for 2 months yet. There are no winners or losers yet, just leaders. It's a long race. Now return to your parents' basement where you belong.

        To a certain extent this is correct but it is not (entirely) true.

        No one will have "Won" or "Lost" until sometime in 2008 but (as far as I know) no company has recovered from a poor start when there was strong competition. The fact is that Publishers look at system sales to determine which system will get exclusive games, which system will get games ported to it, and which system to ignore; if the PS3 is selling poorly while the Wii/XBox 360 is selling well publishers will devote most of their resources towards development on the Wii/XBox 360 which will reduce the number of PS3 systems sold (because people buy systems to play particular games).

        • Re:1 million shipped (Score:4, Interesting)

          by UbuntuDupe (970646) * on Monday January 08, 2007 @12:46PM (#17510704) Journal
          No one will have "Won" or "Lost" until sometime in 2008 but (as far as I know) no company has recovered from a poor start when there was strong competition

          What about the original Playstation? From what I remember, it had a slow start, in an environment where there were lots of competitors using CD media, but gradually won out.
          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            The playstation did recover from a slow start but it did not have strong competition. When the Playstation was released the main competition was the Saturn and in Japan [vgcharts.org] there was a close battle for a little over 2 years before the overall dominance of the Playstation was ensured; the main reason for this was that in North America [vgcharts.org] and Europe the Saturn was dead on arrival and developers who had an interest in selling games outside of Japan were (essentially) forced to choose the Playstation over the Saturn.

            A
          • by supabeast! (84658)

            No one will have "Won" or "Lost" until sometime in 2008 but (as far as I know) no company has recovered from a poor start when there was strong competition

            What about the original Playstation? From what I remember, it had a slow start, in an environment where there were lots of competitors using CD media, but gradually won out.

            The original Playstation had a great start. Battle Arena Toshinden and Ridge Racer were both launch games, and no other system had anything that could compare with either one, particularly Toshinden which was the first 3D fighting game sold for consoles. These games made the console a huge hit with arcade fans who wanted to play Ridge Racer at home and fighting fans seeking a faster, easier game than Sega's Virtua Fighter arcade game.

            • by gfxguy (98788)
              Virtua Fighter (the real 3D version) shipped with the Saturn, which I bought several weeks before the PS was released.
          • Mi>What about the original Playstation? From what I remember, it had a slow start, in an environment where there were lots of competitors using CD media, but gradually won out.

            The SNES int he US as well. It lagged behind initially playign catch up to the genesis. But once certain key games came otu it started stomping the genesis.

            Same witht he Ps2. the Dreamcast had a year head start, a fair game lineup and a good launch onyl to see the PS2 come from behind.
        • As far as I can tell, all systems that have been made are sold, or are in between factory and recipient. So far, all we have is hype. The Xbox 360 on the other hand, is definitely out and available for purchase casually.
        • by ivan256 (17499) on Monday January 08, 2007 @08:17PM (#17517462)
          Don't tell Microsoft that 1,000,000 consoles in a month and a half is a poor start. They took over three months to sell a million 360s. They launched earlier in the season, and they still didn't hit a million until February.

          Only one console had a poor launch this generation, and it wasn't the PS3.
    • by tabacco (145317)
      Saw a pile of about 15 at best buy last night, being largely ignored.
      • by tabacco (145317)
        15 PS3s, I mean. No Wiis.
      • by Reapman (740286)
        Futureshop, Bestbuy, EBGames where I live are all sold out. I know, I keep asking. I can't get my hands on one, as much as I want to. Sadly I don't think I will probably even be able to get a Wii (or another game for PS2) for several months now, so all works out I guess...
    • by NineNine (235196)
      I *wish* there were some sitting on the shelves somewhere. I'm still waiting to get my hands on one!
    • They are sitting on the shelves at my local Target and Walmart. Gamestop is reporting having them in stock at a large number of their stores, too. Best Buy has them online.

      Looks like the shortage has ended. If you want a PS3, they are now easy to obtain.

  • Info.... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by jrwr00 (1035020) <jrwr00@g[ ]l.com ['mai' in gap]> on Monday January 08, 2007 @12:21PM (#17510218) Homepage
    I would still like to know how many they have sold! not shipped, a product can ship 7million units for all i care, but how many did they sell?
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by antifoidulus (807088)
      I think the distinction isn't nearly as big as most people make it out to be. If none were selling then retailers wouldn't order any more and Sony would ship less. IE there may be a difference, but actually the number shipped is more accurate than the number sold because it is easier to keep track of.
      • Also, on this one, I think sales numbers would be *less* reliable because they may double-count a sale if a failed scalper returns it.

        (Yes, I do know someone like that.)
    • Re:Info.... (Score:5, Informative)

      by zarq (842) on Monday January 08, 2007 @12:36PM (#17510504)
      Have a look at http://nexgenwars.com/ [nexgenwars.com], the numbers on that site appear to be pretty believable.
    • I would still like to know how many they have sold! not shipped, a product can ship 7million units for all i care, but how many did they sell?

      Well, there were some 20,000 available on ebay. Do those count twice?
    • by mnmn (145599)
      What they ship they will eventually sell. Even if at a major loss. Receiving the units back would be the biggest loss possible, so they'll definitely sell what they've shipped.

      It also means stores have 'purchased' the units from Sony, so strictly speaking Sony has sold the units, when stores agree to receiving the shipments and paying Sony eventually.

      I'm tempted to buy one just for the multiple cores and processing power in Linux.
  • When will companies start saying how many units were sold, instead of shipped? We are not really interested in their plants manufacturing capability.
    • by jours (663228)
      > When will companies start saying how many units were sold,
      > instead of shipped? We are not really interested in their
      > plants manufacturing capability.

      Well they kind of go hand-in-hand because they don't just ship them into a black hole, and they obviously don't build units that they don't intend to sell. If the stores are willing to accept them it's because they have "shelf space"...and that's because they've sold their last shipment already. From the manufacturer's perspective these units are
      • by Phisbut (761268)

        If the stores are willing to accept them it's because they have "shelf space"...and that's because they've sold their last shipment already. From the manufacturer's perspective these units are sold.

        Not so. In early November, all the stores wanted to have as many PS3 as possible knowing (or thinking) that it would easily sell out. Say StoreX ordered 100 units in november, but due to the initial shortage, Sony sent them 15, sold the 15 units (10 of them going to scalpers), and 5 of them get returned and sit

    • by fistfullast33l (819270) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:04PM (#17510948) Homepage Journal
      When will companies start saying how many units were sold, instead of shipped?

      You misunderstand how the whole manufacturing chain works. In auto sales it's easy to determine how many cars a company is selling because they control the important end of the chain to determine sales to consumers - car dealerships. Companies like Sony and Microsoft do have their own online stores but the majority of their sales are through retailers that are 3rd parties. Those 3rd parties aren't likely to report sales of a specific product, especially in the timely manner that manufacturers need. So as a result, they're forced to say how many units they've shipped in order to report how strong a product is. The theory is that it's hand in hand with sales since most big-box retailers use Just-In-Time inventory and other methods to keep consoles from piling up. Retailers aren't stupid - if the product isn't selling they won't order it. However, there may be contractural obligations built into sales contracts that says they have to stock so many units or buy in blocks.

      This timely manner for sales reporting, by the way, can be blamed on everything from the console war to the fact that Wall Street demands quarterly reporting from public companies.
  • Sony promised 2 million consoles worldwide by the end of last year, and we received 1 million (apparently). Does anyone know if Japan received the other million, or did Sony fall short?
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      The data is still not entirely complete (there are some game sales missing for the final week in December) but the yearly chart for Japan has the PS3 at 446,750 units sold; being that the Japaneese statistics are far more accurate than American statistics you could assume that Sony shipped about 500,000 units in 2006.
  • Bravia only? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Generic Guy (678542) on Monday January 08, 2007 @12:45PM (#17510678)
    several Bravia flat-panel LCD TVs this spring -- will accept an attachable module that can stream broadband high-definition and other Internet video content with the press of a remote control button.

    So it sounds like this only works on Sony units, and only certain specific Sony units at best -- yet another Sony proprietary product to waste their resources upon. Can't they see that a seperate unit which works with any HDTV would be better for both them and customers? But, this is Sony we're talking about.

    • by powerlord (28156)
      Can't they see that a seperate unit which works with any HDTV would be better for both them and customers?


      So you think Sony should make a unit that will work with any HDTV, and allow content to be streamed from the Internet to the TV.

      How about if it includes a next-gen Media player also, like say Blu-Ray?

      I think they made this unit already. They decided to call it the "Playstation 3". Perhaps you've heard of it?
  • Misleading Headline (Score:4, Informative)

    by Dr Kool, PhD (173800) on Monday January 08, 2007 @12:46PM (#17510694) Homepage Journal
    That's one million PS3s shipped TO THE US and only in 2006. One million does not include consoles shipped after the new year and consoles shipped to Japan at any date.

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6163828.html [gamespot.com]
  • Thats what happened to the Original Playstation, although, good games (read: original) seem to only be found on the Wii right now.
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      although, good games (read: original) seem to only be found on the Wii right now.


      Yes that's right! In the coming months we can look forward to original titles from Wario [ign.com], Mortal Kombat [ign.com], Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles [ign.com], SSX [ign.com], Prince of Persia [ign.com], and Medal of Honor [ign.com]. Nope, never seen those before. And let's not forget all of those original rehashes for virtual console!
    • by miyako (632510)
      I think that people are sort of exaggerating the unique experiences that can be had on the Wii a bit. Don't get me wrong, it's an absolutely FANTASTIC system, but the only really unique game that I've seen for it is Elebits (which, for some reason I can't quite explain, reminds me of Katamari Damacy). Granted, there are some other good games, Zelda is of course the big system seller for the "hard core" audience, and Super Monkey Ball, with all of it's mini games, seems to be popular among the less hard co
      • by LKM (227954)
        Games don't need to have an unique concept to be unique on the Wii. Wii Tennis has the blandest concept ever (it's fricken tennis! With stick figures!), but it still an unique experience. The Wii isn't unique because the games are different, it's unique because you play them differently.
    • Oblivion, Gears of War, Viva Pinata, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Crackdown, Halo 3...

      All exclusives. There are easily a half dozen other great games that aren't exclusives, but combined with the above?

      The Playstation 3 needs a lot more than a "couple of titles" - those might grab a few hardcore gamers, but the Wii with it's unique control (assuming it doesn't get old, as in novelty) and Xbox 360 with Live both offer strong features that aim for a wider audience. I've heard some pretty disparaging things about
      • Oblivion

        Not an exclusive. Coming out on the PS3 quite soon, IIRC.

        I see the PS3 sales numbers being mediocre until next holiday season - MGS4, FFXIII, and GTA4 will drive millions of sales.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I'd have to disagree with that... after the initial excitement of getting a Wii wore off I've been quite bored with it. Zelda is a great game but quite similar to the experience I had on the N64 titles, Not to mention after playing the GC version, I'd rather use that controller if only for a better camera. Red steel is a terribly generic shooter thats only interest is in it's controller interface, which is so buggy it's horrible to play. Trauma Center is a cool title but it's identical to the DS version sav
      • by LKM (227954)
        It took the Xbox a year to get a game like GoW. Zelda is a launch title and easily beats GoW, in my opinion. Yes, the shooters on the Wii are pretty bad right now, but the potential is definitely there (combine the best parts of CoD and Red Steel and you have something pretty compelling). Yes, most of the games don't have too much depth, but they're launch titles.

        And I'm still playing Wii Sports every day :-)
  • by failedlogic (627314) on Monday January 08, 2007 @12:53PM (#17510802)
    Amid concerns that some of the consoles are just "sitting" on the shelves, I'm sure that this is posing an addtional loss for Sony.

    I say this because I'm sure they get better prices for parts on a Quarterly on Monthly basis. If something didn't sell which you didn't have to produce and your cost goes down = loss.

    I also wonder if there is lower adoption because the higher quality Blu-Ray (and who "wouldn't" want it to play movies) really needs an HDTV to take full advantage of the system. This means system price + cost of HDTV. Ditto for X360.

    Aside but relevant:
    I don't know about most /.'ers but I'm 26. I've played a fair number of video games. I've had a Gamecube and PS2 for over 3 years now. Only three games on the console have "wowed" me to the point I wish all games were like it: Zelda Wind Waker, Metal Gear Solid 2 and MGS3. Otherwise, all games to me, are now boring, repetitive, not story driven and/or too time consuming (don't have time for RPGs anymore). Sorry to say to the console makers and I think I'm not alone: part of my demographic won't shell out mega-bucks when we have rent to pay when all the games look, feel and play the same! And I'm not buying a PS3 just for MGS4 (might rent to play it). And time wise I don't think I'm buying a Wii (I already have a better one anyways ;) )
  • Somebody already modified the article. It's not the end of 2007, it's the end of their fiscal year, or March.
  • by Churla (936633) on Monday January 08, 2007 @01:46PM (#17511632)
    I had not really bought into the idea of "needing" a next gen console. I predominantly game on the PC. The day after x-mas I'm at a friends house for Poker and the wife goes into the other room and plays on the Wii they picked up. I am immediately informed that this device is on the "must acquire NOW, why didn't you get me one of those for xmas?!?!?" list.

    So after xmas I start a ritual on my remaining vacation of checking stores around the DFW area for a Wii. Took a week and a day before I scored one (at a WalMart) and ever place I checked I got a familiar refrain...

    "We have no Wiis in, we aren't sure when we'll get more. But we have these PS3's , wouldn't you like one of those?"

    I also don't hear buzz amongst friends who have xbox 360's or PS3's about one game or the other, but everybody I know with a Wii raves about how much fun they are. I would say the leader out of the gates for this holiday is the Wii, with Xbox 360 out in front due to getting an early (by MONTHS) start.

    Add in that Sony loss leads with the cost of production of the console being above retail. but Nintendo makes a profit on every console and you have a strange formula which actually says Nintendo is doing better. But I'm sure Sony will save the day for themselves with some well though out proprietary product that uses a standard or media format which they are the only really proponents of. That's how it works, right?
    • "We have no Wiis in, we aren't sure when we'll get more. But we have these PS3's , wouldn't you like one of those?"

      Absolutely. The employees at several stores here in Austin were trying to push the same thing on me. "Sorry, no Wii. But would you like a PS3? We have a lot of them!" They seemed so sad to not have Wii for me, and looked depressed that I wasn't interested in their "consolation prize".

      (Finally got a Wii last Tuesday, tracking dates and times for UPS shipments.)
    • by TobyWong (168498)
      We got a Wii in here at work a couple days after release. I tried it for 15 minutes or so and then got tired of it. I don't really see what all the fuss is about.
  • The problem is that, now that one can find PS3s just sitting in stores, shipped doesn't always mean sold. Furthermore, warehouses might have even more... Still, it seems fairly likely that Sony shipped around 1.5M consoles to retailers and the like during 2006.

    vgcharts.org, who seem accurate enough, estimate total PS3 sales worldwide at 1.41M so far (that implies maybe 1-2 hundred k in various display cases, not an unreasonable number) and Wii sales as 4M.
  • This is a PS3 story? Then why are you still using the PS2 controller as a logo? /sarcasm
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by tepples (727027)

      This is a PS3 story? Then why are you still using the PS2 controller as a logo?

      Because the basic shape of the PlayStation family controllers hasn't changed since the Dual Shock was introduced back in the mid-PS1 era.

  • Yes, the game shipped 2 million units [wikipedia.org], but nobody bought them.

    For Sony it's debatable what is worse... losing $300 million dollars by selling these units, or losing more money having them sit on the shelves. I guess sitting on the shelves is worse.

    It would also be interesting to find out how badly the actual sales numbers really are, when returns and resells on returned units is taken into account. I suspect they aren't terribly great.

    Fanboys can defend Sony all they want, but they will absolutely lie
  • Non-Fanboi (Score:3, Insightful)

    by felonious (636719) on Monday January 08, 2007 @02:45PM (#17512534) Journal
    I'm not going to rehash the same pro/con fanboi arguments in this here post.
    What I will offer up is my humble opinion.

    They are meeting demand faster than the 360 due to the system not selling out as fast.
    The cost is still too high and they won't see big sales numbers until they lower the cost. They can't lower the cost, at present, due to losing money out of the gate. It's also a lost cause because MS/Nin can still low ball them if they decide to drop the cost. I think if they came in around 360 premium price, they would see better market penetration. They should also consider releasing a non-BR version with wifi for $299 and I bet it'd sell the shit out of the present choices they are offering up.

    The PS3 was, pretty much, a paper release. I say this because they didn't have enough units, on hand, very few games, an incomplete gaming network, etc. I think they released and hoped to get the early adapters and such, but to this point, I think it's been a disappointing release, for them, no matter what they say. The truth is the cost is the single biggest issue holding them back. Everyone is piling on, now, so unless they pull something huge out of their asses, things aren't going to improve until they drop the price.

    $600 is way too much for a video game system for the avg family, period. All the spoiled children who want to say it's not, obviously don't earn a living, so they have no valid appreciation for how much $600 is. I can afford a PS3, no problem, but I am unmarried and I don't have children. My low cost subsistence of free pr0n, boca burgers, and no debt make things more affordable:D I finally bought a 360, after a year of trying to justify it, because I could at least modularize it, which does make it cheaper. That's the simple truth.
    • by Megane (129182)

      They should also consider releasing a non-BR version with wifi for $299

      The problem is that they can't. The expensive part isn't the movie decoding, it's that freaking blue laser. And they've committed to releasing the games on BR discs. Sony have basically screwed themselves by trying to push their pet technologies.

      They don't have a great track record doing so: Betamax, ATRAC, Memory Stick, SACD, and probably a couple more obscure enough that I don't remember them. None of them are popular technologies, one is completely dead (please don't anyone bring up the completely

    • by Fozzyuw (950608)

      They should also consider releasing a non-BR version with wifi for $299 and I bet it'd sell the shit out of the present choices they are offering up.

      A pretty straight forward idea, but even before the PS3 was shipped it was already mentioned it would be next to impossible to 'remove' the Blu-Ray once it's there. Why? Size and HD support. Games are already made. You cannot go back and 'downgrade' the system and think these games will still play the same or that the developer will go back and modify the

  • by Stevecrox (962208) on Monday January 08, 2007 @02:59PM (#17512768) Journal
    I don't doubt that 1 million unit have shipped to USA but, I'll be honest here I am a PS3 fan, a big one, but I don't see how they will ship or sell 6 million units by march. Its £549 in the UK (when released), thats double what Americans have to pay. I can justify £300, perhaps a little more, I still think the £200 cost of my PSP was worth it. Yet its the only console which will offer true versitility, I get my Gran Turismo,GTA, Tony Hawk, etc... fix and I can play Guitar Hero,Buzz and Singstar with friends. But is it worth £549?
    The Xbox360 isn't in the same market, After a year there are almost enough games to make me interested in getting a Xbox360, but the limited hard drive lack of blu ray/HD DVD, crappy expansion slots and most importantly lack of any singstar,buzz,Guitar Hero type of games which puts me off the console.
    The you have the Gimmick or Wii as it prefers to be known which has Wii sports, while I'm sure it will suck in many people with Wii Sports (heck we do have a 30 person strong waiting list for Wii's) I can't help but see it as anouther gamecube which will end up with two games I like and the rest of the game library sucking hugely. I'm not saying Wii Sports isn't fun, but it is the type of game which doesn't stay fun after the tenth time you've picked it up (kinda the same way a singstar/buzz game loses enjoyability over time.)
    What does a gamer do? On one hand you have a console which sells based on a Gimmick (Wiimote) which looks set to sell hugely, one console which is limited in games for the non hard core gamer (which has sold well(Xbox360)) and the only console which looks like it could cover both is so incredibly expensive that I couldn't justify buying it (as well as the company showing increasing signs of evilness.)
    • by BenJeremy (181303)
      Well, the Xbox 360 has HD-DVD, and Guitar Hero will be released for it... and there is a new version of the 360 coming out with an HDMI port and bigger hard drive (120GB).

      You'll probably wait until those come out, but it sounds like you are already on the verge.

    • by jchenx (267053)

      Yet its the only console which will offer true versitility, I get my Gran Turismo,GTA, Tony Hawk, etc... fix and I can play Guitar Hero,Buzz and Singstar with friends. But is it worth £549?

      The Xbox360 isn't in the same market, After a year there are almost enough games to make me interested in getting a Xbox360, but the limited hard drive lack of blu ray/HD DVD, crappy expansion slots and most importantly lack of any singstar,buzz,Guitar Hero type of games which puts me off the console.

      I should point

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