Sony Unveils Portable Playstation 124
Filly-O-Fish writes "Sony has made an official announcement, and released pictures of its online Playstation. You can go head to head by plugging your mobile phone into it. It's out this month in Japan, and in the UK in September. Full story is at Games online."
Feasability? (Score:4)
Other alternatives would include those laptop base batteries, but that would be too heavy and destroy the purpose of portability
and the other option is through and AC adapter, though who would really want to haul around an adapter, wouldn't that be much like carrying around a regular playstation.
My thoughts is that you should just get Playstation emulation software for your laptop for several reasons: Longer battery life (iBook 5-6 hours), larger screen (15.1"), and all the other benefits of a laptop. The only drawback to that option is cost though and you would need to buy a controller.
...and I'm not sure we should trust this Kyle Sagan either.
Re:Needs always-on connection (Score:2)
As soon as you have more than two devices, cabling becomes a nightmare - I have a laptop, Palm device and mobile phone, so adding a mobile Playstation would mean as many as four cables.
GPRS and other mobile phone standards would work with a cable, since they go from the mobile to the base station - typically you would run IP over the cable protocol, then the phone routes this out the other side on top of GPRS or whatever. Yes, your mobile phone is now a real IP router
Maybe I'm missing something..... (Score:1)
modchip compatible? (Score:1)
In case anyone didn't know, Sony has released something like 10 or 15 versions of the Playstation, all of which have been able to be modified. (Modding enables playing out of region games and CDR discs).
Re:Feasability? (Score:1)
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Snarfvs Maximvs Announces Portable PlayStation (Score:1)
Film at 11....
Gee, Just What I Wanted (Score:1)
Re:where's the games? (Score:1)
However, I've got a question, how do they expect to sync a game between the two consoles? The mobile adapter appears to connect to the second controller socket, which would seem to cause some havoc if you play a game not designed for the semi-multiplayer adapter (different random number seeds, lagtime, etc.). Anyone else have more to add?
Re:Sony delievers again (Score:1)
Re:What is the Market? (Score:1)
A simple plug adapter for the car so Mom and Dad can tune out the kids in the back of the mini-van.
I would love to have one of these things for flying, most airlines provide AC plugs for laptops now.
Cool
A .sig should reflect you personality. Mine is blank....
Neat but.. (Score:2)
Too many wires! Hmm.. maybe I should patent that.
Compared with the PlayStation (Score:1)
PlayStation dimensions: Listed as 17" x 4.25" x 11.25" based on this Sony product page [sony.com].
To convert to millimeters, multiply each by 25.4: 431.8 mm x 107.95 mm x 285.75mm.
(Similarly, divide the mms by 25.4 to get inches, so the PlayStationOne is ~7.6" x ~1.5" x ~5.7")
Chinese Link to Playstation Wearable (Score:1)
Re:What is the Market? (Score:1)
What I really would have liked to see... (Score:1)
"Portable" *NOT* "Handheld" (Score:2)
That's right, kiddies. Sony isn't claiming that they are making a Game-Boy-style handheld game, just that they're making an easier-to-transport version of the PlayStation. That's where the confusion is coming in. So, I'll say it again: THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A HANDHELD!
Remember the old Compaq Portable? Or IBM's line of 'Luggable' PS/2s? That is what this is equivalent to. A fully-functional, normal PlayStation, just designed to be more easily taken from one place to the other. And, with an add-on screen, you can use it in other locales, too; like a car. But not all on it's own. You can tell that just by looking at it.
So, you'll have to wait a little longer for them to release a handheld that can play PS games. (Although, using CDs as media, it will be awkward to impliment. Either a single device, that is unweidly because of it's size (and the danger of skipping,) or a two-piece system where you have the CD player portion on your belt (pocket, etc) and have a seperate hand-held part with the screen and controls. There are two ways to impliment this system:
hotel fun (Score:1)
now what would be really cool would be to make a battery pack for it and bundle it with some headset goggles. the wearable market is getting to be more and more existant (I have a wearable computer that I take with me everywhere: it's called my Visor and Stowaway keyboard :-) )
Re: Deregulation vs. standards (Score:1)
-Spazimodo
Fsck the millennium, we want it now.
Re:modchip compatible? (Score:1)
Japanese press release... (Score:1)
What is the Market? (Score:4)
I've always noticed, as I've wandered down the console aisles of my local gaming establishments, a fairly good amount of products aimed at taking your N64/PSX/DC on the road. I've seen carrying cases for the consoles, extra carrying cases for the games, even controller carriers that look like Batman's utility belt, and now, this mini playstation. My question is what is this market?
A market obviously exists, hence the products. Or is this a case of products trying to create a market? I've just never seen it in action. Is it the lucky kids on the block who tote their hardware around to the homes of those less fortunate? Is it a strictly sleepover audience? Or is it weary little Rex Jr. stuck travelling the world with his parents armed against boredom with only his Dreamcast, a tote bag, and a shoebox full of voltage adapters?
The circles I run in are mostly convenience console players. Nobody is going to go to the trouble of fiddling around behind their entertainment center/cardboard box to unhook the thing, packing, and then slinging their machines over their shoulder for a night out. But if we settle in somewhere and somebody spies a Dual Shock dangling out of a pizza box, we'll play a few rounds of Bust-a-Groove or what-have-you.
Since children and their games have changed a wee bit since I used to go to my friend Mike's house and hint relentlessly about how cool his Intellivision was and how much fun it was, hoping to score a few more minutes with Nightstalker, I was hoping a parent out there might shed some light onto the kids of today and whether or not they pack console before they hit the streets.
Peace. Sway
Re:Needs always-on connection (Score:2)
PIAFS supports both 32k and 64k data rates (and within the PIAFS 2.1 spec, it can switch between these rates on the fly depending on signal quality).
With my PIAFS adapter and phone dialed into my ISP, I can pull down stuff at 6kB/s with 120 ms latency
What I like about PIAFS is that:
1) It is here in Japan now.
2) It works and has good geographical coverage (including subways!).
3) The PHS phones that talk PIAFS don't need powerful tranmitters because the antennae are so close together. Battery life is a non-issue. I can use my phone for days without a recharge!
4) You can dial into any ISDN equipment.
However, I am not sure if this is the phone type that this new PS can talk to. Anybody know?
-AP
Close but no cigar (Score:3)
Re:Have's and Have not's (Score:1)
The Playstaion 1 isn't a powerful machine. It's got a 33mhz processor and a graphics chip that can do floating point matrix multiplies and non-perspective-correct texture mapping. That's it.
Re:The Need for Speed (Score:2)
Re:Atari Lynx (Score:1)
Re:Feasability? (Score:1)
Getting emulator software for your laptop makes sense, if you already have a laptop. But let's say you're a parent and you are taking your kids on a plane flight from New York to California. Or maybe a four hour drive to Grandma's house. The kids most likely don't have their own laptops, and at 15k yen, or about $150, it's hella cheaper to get the kids one of these, even one for each, than to get them one laptop (even one iBook) to share. Can they do more with a laptop? Sure. But they've got my old computer at home for that - travelling, I just want to keep them from getting bored, and schoolwork on a laptop doesn't cut it :-)
Heck, I'd buy the software for my laptop, but buy one of these for my daughter (she's almost four, and loves Parappa the Rapper).
Wouldn't you know it, six months after I stop working for Sony, they start doing all this cool stuff? Or maybe it just seems cooler from the outside, since I no longer know about all the really cool stuff they're doing in the research labs (the successor to AIBO kicks ass).
What's this system's bugs out of the box? (Score:2)
Every system Sony has released has had some major flaw (PS overheated, prompted a complete overhaul of the system; PS2 can't get antialiasing straight, offers DVD region workarounds, prompts developers queries and redesigned DVD drivers).
Hopefully they will be able to get this system out without it frying.
Re:Wow! how Original -- NOT! (Score:1)
That happened once. DOS.
What about kerebros and other such applications? They took unix's ftp client and fucked it up. Just look at ftp.exe. How pathetic is that sonofabitch? Can't even use pasv mode or anything.
They've been trying to make Windows better since they stole OS/2... yet it still is a big ass chunk or shit.
Thanks for pointing out they had 1 release.
k
bye
Re:Close but no cigar (Score:1)
Re:I'm just wondering... (Score:1)
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where's the games? (Score:4)
PS/1 Compatability (Score:1)
The Official Sony Announcement (In English) (Score:4)
Here [scei.co.jp] is the official Sony announcement in English.
One interesting note from that page is that it seams as though the LCD panel can ONLY be run from AC power:
*Requires appropriate AC Adapter
Yay! So pointless!
-AP
Re:Close but no cigar (Score:2)
However, it's completely unsuitable for the US market. The technology is now past it's prime, it's not truly portable, cell phones (while catching on fast) are not pervasive enough, and it's just not NEW.
They're trying to pull a Nintendo, taking really old technology (GameBoy) and making it seem new with a different casing. It's just not going to compete. People want a GameBoy-like version of the Playstation ... not a smaller Playstation.
Sony's got an idea for the Japanese market, but it won't work here.
Sweet! (Score:1)
Re:where's the games? (Score:1)
Re:where's the games? (Score:1)
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Re:Have's and Have not's (Score:1)
Cool.... (Score:1)
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controller (Score:1)
Looks neat, but I'll stick with my current PSX. I would like one of them white controllers though.
But this new system doesn't hold any value for me... a cell phone uplink? Why not a regular damn modem? I boycott celular phones anyway... I never want to be that accessible to anyone.
spam email virus hits sony PS1 (Score:1)
Spam email virus hits PS1 through mobile phones...
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flashback/ underimpressed (Score:1)
Also cell phones in japan are different than those in the us.. They might need a different modem.
It would be cooler if it was a handheld maybe using those new Hd 650 meg MiniDiscs.
Will they make an NTSC version so it can be used stateside?
Re:Needs always-on connection (Score:2)
Semi Portable.... (Score:1)
I'm not entirely sure what market Sony is aiming this at...
Afterall....the full sized playstation is not really all that clumsy to lug around......
The mobile phone link is interesting though....especially since the article says it will be avialable for the PS2 too....
Expensive (Score:1)
Re:The Official Sony Announcement (In English) (Score:1)
Why don't Sony just make a PSX like a clamshell DVD player?
Unanswered questions... (Score:2)
Why are they coming out with a new, "luggable" version of the venerable PS1, when the marketing blitz is going to be on for the PS2?
Has Sony given up on the hand-held market? Will my nieces and nephews be condemned to GameBoy Hell forever (or at least for this product cycle)?
Inquiring minds, and all that....
Re:Wow! how Original -- NOT! (Score:1)
Well, at work I'm not using either, I'm using Terminal Services to get GUI logins so I can get some real work done.
Oh boy, I bet I'm getting flamed for that one.
Amazingly, a lot of the work I'm doing on NT right now involves Lyris List Manager [lyris.com] on NT, which is a very standards-based Mailing List Manager. I've been having some number of problems with it, but I fully expect it to be the best solution once I get everything sorted out.
In any case, Lyris uses whatever webserver you like (up to and including Apache, Fnord, or whatever else you like), and it has a perl library that you can use to interface to Lyris and do basically anything you can do with the thing any other way, and then some. There's a number of things you cannot in fact do without perl.
So, if I used "dos" edit under win2k (which does indents now, which is kind of cool) as my editor, and nosed around with telnet enough, I could probably get most of my work done there - But I'd have to write more scripts and open a whole bunch of windows. Since this is a 100mbit/sec switched network, I don't think the small amount of bandwidth Terminal Services uses is going to cause much trouble.
Anyway, yes, when I log into a unix box, I use SecureCRT to talk to OpenSSH, generally -- Because I run OpenBSD on my webserver (which is down right now, anyway... Network issues.) I really do think that the telnet functionality in NT is pretty spiffy, though. (Desperate attempt to get back on topic)
how expensive is it to run? (Score:1)
The mobile phone thing looks interesting, but the main thing I'm wondering about is how much will this cost for the average person to run it head to head?
What's their target market?
Atari Lynx (Score:1)
Slightly off topic -- but does anyone else remember the Atari Lynx? That was a great handheld!
Also, this month's NextGen has screenshot of Metal Gear Solid 2 for PS2...Jaw drops, drool drips from chin.
dc
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Not True - GBA (Score:1)
Also, don't the Crusoe-based pads have a long battery life also?
Hmm... (Score:2)
Re:where's the games? (Score:1)
playstation (Score:1)
it... (Score:1)
First ever laptop game console? (Score:1)
Sounds kinda like Sega's Nomad... (Score:1)
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Sony delievers again (Score:1)
No, but... (Score:1)
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Wanna hook MAPI clients to your Tru64/AIX/Linux server?
Re:I'm just wondering... (Score:1)
The Need for Speed (Score:4)
A special adapter cable, available this winter in Japan, will enables the entire PlayStation platform - including its 128-bit successor - to be connected to mobile phones,
Does any else think it's strange to connect a 128-bit processor to a 9600 baud modem!?
pPSX + I-glasses (Score:2)
<cut to scene of business-suited man in a park, leaping around, screaming "spill your black blood, Sephiroth!" and nearly running into pedestrians, crying "no, not more zombies!">
Okay, maybe it's not so great.
- Michael Cohn
Re: Deregulation vs. standards (Score:1)
IIRC, it's because of the encryption incorporated into the GSM standard.
dimensions... (Score:1)
193mm x 38mm x 144mm (W,H,D)
weight: 550g
Speaking of bluetooth (Score:1)
However, what about bluetooth and related short range wireless stuff? Since these things are small, and potentially have their own screen, wouldn't it be better if they created a sort of wireless lan based on proximity?
You and a couple friends bring your playstations into the same room, and blammo, you are networked or whatever. It would raise the cost of the ps1, but at least it would be useful.
--Scott
its not just for kids... (Score:1)
Particularily when they have multiplayer games...
My impressions... (Score:4)
I'd have been more happy to see Ethernet access instead, what with the ability to network anywhere, *and* the growth in broadband (DSL/CTM) in
As for the screen, it's damn cute, but like the old Jaguar CD, it makes the machine look like a toilet. More so since it's white. Although with the screen in the lid like that it also looks a bit like a make-up kit with a mirror.
This is a plus (Score:4)
The smaller size and weight of this system is a real boon to those designing missile guidance systems. The attached phone also makes remote operation much simpler
Just dial 3210 launch.
deathmatch? (Score:1)
That's la lot of batteries... (Score:1)
Re: Dreamcast & WINCE (Score:1)
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I'm working... (Score:1)
-Mr. Macx
Moof!
Re:where's the games? (Score:2)
Gauntlet is a lot of fun.
Jon
Re: (Score:1)
Re:Sony delievers again (Score:1)
Re:The Need for Speed (Score:1)
Re:The Need for Speed (Score:1)
Re:Unanswered questions... (Score:3)
it's a tradition for electronics companies to release "updated" versions of their old consoles when a new platform is released. they are trying to squeeze every last dollar from their investments in the technology.
nintendo released an updated nes when the snes was released, and an updated snes when the n64 came out. sega made a portable genesis when the saturn came out.
it's also a hook of theirs; they hope that if someone get hooked on the cheaper old platform, they will spend the cash to get the current model afterwards.
it is interesting that it will be out before the ps2 though.
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Re:My impressions... (Score:1)
Interesting and bizarre. The Playstation has an RS232 serial port [geocities.com], and I understand that's what mobile phones use too. So why connect it to the controller port? I can only assume it's so that Sony can sell another proprietary interface cable (you should see how much they charge for digital audio cables for their DAT recorders).
Re:Wow! how Original -- NOT! (Score:1)
On the other hand, SQL Server 7 (MS SQL came originally from Sybase X) is way cooler than Sybase. Faster, too. Win2k telnet is reasonable, and they have a server. Of course, the telnet server only lets you telnet in from another Win2k box, but at least it does authentication at the NT level. WLBS load balancing doesn't suck. NTFS 5 is journaling, and quite quick. I haven't lost a file due to a power outage since Win2k.
Get over your microsoft hating. If you're going to hate them, hate them for their bad buisness practice, or how much the OS likes to crash; Not for microsoft failing to ever improve someone else's idea - They've done that more than once.
And let's not forget MS flightsim :)
Re:Screen? (Score:1)
Tried one at the local Sony store, not bad quality...sorta grainy (standard three-color lcd grain) but definatly watchable. Wouldn't want to try and play something detailed like Command n Conquer on it...but anything else should be fine.
Just need a decent power source...
Re:Close but no cigar (Score:1)
Re:The Need for Speed (Score:1)
Well done, you've just shown how backward some countries are in terms of wireless communications.
Where was this announced? Japan.
What sort of wireless connectivity is available in Japan? 64Kbps (same as single-channel ISDN).
further nostaligia (Score:1)
how many times did you hear "matel electronics presents: Space Spartians!!!"
Re:The Need for Speed (Score:1)
This was announced IN JAPAN, OK? Did you know that a type of cellphone service (the i-Mode) in Japan has more than 200,000 new applicants PER DAY? That Ken Kutaragi has previously said that the cellphone is Sony's biggest competitor?
Sony is doing this to get a chunk of the rapidly-growing cellphone-based comms market in Japan. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even release it overseas.
Re:I'm just wondering... (Score:1)
There's no screening process that makes sure we all follow the 'official' slashdot point of view...
in fact...as far as i can tell there IS no official slashdot point of view....
People just speak up when an article interests or concerns them...and different articles interest different people...
Re:how expensive is it to run? (Score:1)
personally speaking, i think they're going for the 'has-a-job-but-played-loads-of-games-when-he/she-
i think they're aiming for the 'early birds' of the gaming market.
it always causes surprise and offence when companies do this...i'm usually one of the offended. damn, i am here as well...
Re:Expensive (Score:1)
The only shitty thing about connecting over a cell phone is that analog connections typically suck, and the digital providers don't have the infrastructure in place yet to do any sort of high speed data access - damn premature phone monopoly deregulation.
-Spazimodo
Fsck the millennium, we want it now.
Needs always-on connection (Score:5)
Perhaps the initial connection will be via IrDA, which typically goes up to 115 Kbps but can be faster - not sure if any phones implement the fast version.
GPRS (Generalised Packet Radio Service) is based on TDMA (time division multiple access) mobile phone standards such as GSM (whole world and some parts of North America) and the North American digital one whose name I forget (IS-136?). It's just a software upgrade to most base stations and expected by end of this year in Europe (although BT has just announced a business only service starting this month in the UK).
For more info on GPRS, see http://www.mobilegprs.com/ - sibling sites also have good info on EDGE, 3G/UMTS, WAP, and other horrible mobile phone acronyms...
awwwwww.... (Score:3)
Ignorance Is Bliss (Score:2)
-Brandon LostBrain [lostbrain.com]
Because Breaking Up Microsoft [lostbrain.com] Is Funny
Re: Deregulation vs. standards (Score:3)
The result is that I can take my dual-band phone to almost any country in the world (except Japan, US, Canada, Mexico and some South American countries) and have it work seamlessly. I can even do short messages (similar to text paging) and data calls (e.g. sending email from my Palm device) from abroad.
I'm not sure why this didn't happen in the US - perhaps the vendors thought the market was big enough for them to go with proprietary standards (e.g. D-AMPS, CDMA) as well as GSM. In the US, GSM is available from Omnipoint and some others, operates on a 3rd frequency, 1900 MHz, but you can get tri-band phones that work on all 3 global GSM frequencies).
Just as with most technologies, standards are a Good Thing...
Re:Have's and Have not's (Score:2)
If anyone has a point or two left, please mod my parent post down as it appears to be factually incorrect as eloquently stated by Cryptnotic. And if you have an extra point, please pass it along to Cryptinic for pointing this out. His comment is not just plain flamebait, He made a good point.
more specs (Score:2)
http://psx.ign.com/news/20603.html [ign.com]
Not quite pointless... (Score:2)
Such as laying in bed with the SO, playing Tekken or Vagrant Story. No need to bring the TV into the bedroom and set up all that junk - just put it between us on the covers and play away the Sunday.
Plus, you should also consider that this version of the Playstation caters to a very strong Japanese space-is-everything ethic. I imagine there will be cube-dwellers buying this thing just to give themselves another 6 inches of elbow room
Even more important: LCD compatible with PSX2? (Score:2)