PlayStation Portable 184
King Kool writes: "Apparently, some guy decided it would be cool to try to take apart his PSX and make it portable - and it worked. It has about 2 hours of batterylife (with screen and everything) and runs on a Sony Lithium battery. Pictures and documentation are included. Cool."
wow (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:wow (Score:1)
That said, CD error recovery is so good that quite possibly you could have a brief slowdown or wobble and recover from it. Any CD gurus out there?
Re:wow (Score:1)
Re:wow (Score:1)
I hope the guy thought of that...
Dreamcast (Score:1, Interesting)
32-bit system (Score:2)
Re:32-bit system (Score:1)
Combo light and screen cover (Score:1)
but what good is the hardware if you can't see the graphics
You mean you don't have the combo light and screen cover? One of those is pretty handy when you drop a CD-ROM drive on your GBA.
Re:32-bit system (Score:1)
I think you will find that there is way more content for the playstation. Plus the games are way better and more playable then any of the crap nintendo has produced.
Re:32-bit system (Score:2)
The GBA is a fantastic little system but it's nowhere near the playstation in terms of capabilities.
Re:32-bit system (Score:1)
It's PC hardware, isn't it? Well, why not just attch an LCD to one of those CD-ROM sized PCs?
GBA .GT. SNES (Score:4, Informative)
The GBA is supposedly equal to SNES power.
No. Super NES had a 2.8/3.6 MHz 65816 processor (essentially a 65c02 with 16-bit registers, 8-bit data bus, little pipelining) connected to the graphics chip and a 2 MHz SPC700 processor (incompatible variant of 6502 core with some instructions able to treat registers X and Y as a single 16-bit integer) connected to the sound chip. The two CPUs were connected through four slow 8-bit ports; most of the "loading" on Super NES games was actually copying 64 KB worth of sound data from the 65C816 side (which could see the cart) to the SPC700 (which could see only its 64 KB of RAM and its 64-byte BIOS).
GBA, on the other hand, has a 16.8 MHz ARM processor (32-bit registers, 32-bit bus to internal RAM, 16-bit external data bus, no hardware divide, lots of pipelining, C-friendly) connected to both the sound and graphics chips, making it much easier to code for. Its graphics chip also features hardware matrix transformation of sprite coordinates (allowing for 2D scaling and rotation of sprites) as well as four layers of straight background (vs. Super NES's 3) or two layers of "mode 7" 2 1/2-D transformation (vs. Super NES's 1), and a linear bitmap mode (allowing for easier porting of Wolf3d or Doom engines).
Re:GBA .GT. SNES (Score:1)
also, has anyone ever looked inside a SNES? those seem pretty portable...
Re:32-bit system (Score:1)
Re:32-bit system (Score:2)
One of the early suspicions of the Playstation (and even more for the Saturn) were that because so much effort went into creating a 3D console, that the 2D power of the console might be shoddy.
As we know now, this isn't the case. (With either system.) In fact, a good many of my favourite games are 2D. (Final Fantasy Tactics (has a lot of 2D elements), all the Street Fighter games, Caslevania SoTN, etc)
Even today, I would not want a video game console without decent 2D support. Although I am a little disapointed with the GBA, being that that appears to be *all* it supports. Not very "Advance," is it?
Re:32-bit system (Score:2)
I'm sure with the superior hardware within the GBA they could do a game like Starwing without a special chip in the cart...
Re:32-bit system (Score:2)
I suppose I stand semi-corrected then. I saw the screenshots for offroaders, but the second link just loaded up a news page.
The 3D in offroaders doesn't look like "true 3D" as we know it. It looks more like Mode 7 with some sort of height map added. Which is cool, don't get me wrong, but it's still not *real* 3D.
It looks nifty, but it's nothing that couldn't have been done 10 or more years ago. When I said the GBA doesn't look very advanced, I'm talking in terms of what the technology ought to be able to do today. So far, of all the GBA games I've seen, they hold only a slight advantage graphics-wise over the SNES. They don't resemble what a 32-bit system ought to be able to these days. (Even if it's handheld.)
Re:32-bit system (Score:2)
Well, I'll take a look if I can, but what I meant by "true 3D" was textured (or even flat-shaded) polygons. The SNES did this through an expensive chip in the cartridge, but the quality was very poor. (At least the games were fun! StarFox, Stunt RaceFX, etc)
The GBA is an actual 32-bit system which *ought* to do polygon-based 3D reasonably well for a handheld based on the specifications I saw. Maybe they just aren't taking advantage of it yet? I dunno. You'd think Nintendo would have released at least one game just to show off the capability as they normally do with their new systems:
SNES: Pilotwings, F-Zero
N64: Mario 64
Oh well. My friend says the Castlevania game rocks and that Square are supposed to be releasing some games for it in the future and that's good enough for me.
Why? (Score:1, Flamebait)
I agree that it's cool, but has zero utility. I'm sure that serveral of you will come up with all kinds of arguments against this (why this IS usefull), but, I don't know, errrgg! Dumb, dumb...
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
That said, doesn't one of the more famous quotes about the microship go something like "But what is it useful for?"
We shall have to see...
Re:Why? (Score:1)
The real question is, why do you care?
People do what they want to do, not
what you want them to do. Most people don't bother degrading other peoples lives, but you seem to like it. Good for you.
Please realise that I do know this post is hypocritical, or self-parodying for the pretentious. That was the intention.
Re:Why? (Score:1)
I'm sorry if I came off sounding like a jerk, I really didn't mean to offend this guy, or you.
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Jeremy
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Well if the page did that it is better than most web pages i've seen.
Re:Why? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
portable monopoly (Score:1)
Really, why would you need this to be portable? You already have Gameboy, laptops, PDAs- what is PS1 going to give you that you need so badly?
Squaresoft games, especially fighting games such as Tobal and Ehrgeiz. After the Mana 3 and Mario RPG debacles, nintendo and Square refuse to talk to each other. This portable PlayStation console is an attempt to break nintendo's portable monopoly [portablemonopoly.com].
And where are you going to take it? In the car- power adapter.
As if. The average family car doesn't have enough juice to power both a TV and a PS1 console. (No, I'm not talking the WB edition SUVs and vans with an integrated TV either.)
Re:portable monopoly (Score:2)
Umm.. no it isn't. It's a guy who thought it would be cool to have a portable playstation. He has nothing to do with Sony. He's not going to produce the unit at all, mostly because he thinks Sony would sue him.
The average family car doesn't have enough juice to power both a TV and a PS1 console.
I ran a Dreamcast and a 19" TV off of a power inverter plugged into my car a few months ago. No problems at all, just had to start the car once in a while.
Re:portable monopoly (Score:1)
How about cars? (Score:2)
1) get in the way (especially when the kids are in the back of a minivan)
2) what happens when you've got two (or more) kids with discmans, portable game machines, or whatever...most cars don't have that many ciggarette lighter sockets, and additionally do you want that many wires around the car.
Sure there's the Gameboy. But using that logic, you could say why would anyone make a new console machine since there's already a number of them.
The parent could just buy a PSp (Playstation Portable) and use the same games for both the PS and PSp or possible even just hook the PSp up to the TV and use it as a normal gaming system. One thing I'm -really- wondering about is if Sony is willing to license the PSp to sell as an official item. Would be VERY cool if they did.
Re:How about cars? (Score:1)
And we did.
Re: How about cars? (Score:1)
That worked for me and my younger brother, but our older brother and sister couldn't...reading in the car makes them terribly carsick.
I think they learned to sleep on demand, though.
And I hate the idea of kids (people) having yet another piece of electronic garbage swallow every free moment.
I realize we *must* constantly be entertained, but damn, get a grip. There's an actual world out there.
Sure it's useless, but I bet it was fun to build (Score:2)
"Oh yes."
Love is in the air...everytime spare parts lie around...
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Why? For the same reason that I bought a Sega Nomad back in the day. It's a portable system, but it plays all the old games that you already own. It has about the same utility as many portable systems out there. There's just something to be said for having an entire gaming system, screen and all, in the palm of your hand. This thing is just eminately(sp?) more portable then the PSOne and screen and controllers and...
Re:Why? (Score:2)
The Nomad! I forgot all about that one. I think still want one...
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Heh. I actually sold mine about a year and a half ago. It was just collecting dust, so I sold it to this guy who collects video game systems. I figured that he would get more use out of it then I was getting out of it.
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Awesome! (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Awesome! (Score:2)
And even then, I don't think Sony would put up much of a hassle. I mean, it would prompt people to buy more games. IIRC, video game companies sell their consoles at a loss, because they depend on royalties from the games they've licensed for all their profits. Maybe Sony does things differently, but I know this was how Nintendo and Sega used to do their business. This was why Nintendo never put of much of a fight in the late 80's when about a half-dozen or so companies began producing clones of the Famicom.
Is it just me, or .... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Is it just me, or .... (Score:1)
Well, now I know why there's a preview button.
Re:Is it just me, or .... (Score:1)
Great! (Score:1)
on the games periphary: I was checking out M.U.L.E. sites this morning and was stunned when I went over the eBay to see if anyone had an old copies for sale. See what some sell for here [ebay.com], here, [ebay.com] and here [ebay.com].
Power requirements? (Score:1)
Wonder what an XBox portable would be like.
Re:Power requirements? (Score:2)
Wonder what an XBox portable would be like.
Ah, I would wager it looks a lot like that IBM Thinkpad sitting over there at my other desk.
Re:Power requirements? (Score:2)
Heh, if you'd ever tried to lift an actual XBox you wouldn't be asking that question. Remember the original 'mobile' phones, the brick-sized ones you had to carry a suitcase-sized battery around with? That's the ballpark a portable XBox would be in.
Re:Power requirements? (Score:1)
All this is based on the assumption that its comprised of common PC components. Except the XBox specific boards.
What would be the potential market for portable versions of every console or a console form factor that has both functionality, plug it into the TV for home use and take it in the car and caravan for the kids on holiday.
Surely it would be quite large.
Re:Power requirements? (Score:2)
1 hour 45 minutes. Or, as the creator of the system puts it, long enough to cast two spells in Final Fantasy VII. :)
Footnote for the anal: Yes, I am aware that FFVII's spells had relatively short animations. I'm sure he meant GFs.
Cool, but... (Score:2)
Still trying to find a use for it though, playing PSX games on a screen that small. If he wanted to do something portable and cool, he could have tried rigging up a GBA with a back-lit screen. Now THAT would have been something useful.
And the point of this is......? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:And the point of this is......? (Score:1)
Reinventing the wheel ? (Score:2)
Re:Reinventing the wheel ? (Score:1)
Re:Reinventing the wheel ? (Score:1)
I would take the handheld version done by this guy over the corporate sony releases anyday. (Who says that a corporate's way is the best way?? We'd all love microsoft if that was the case!)
Portable != Handheld (Score:1)
Jinushaun
No disturbances? (Score:1)
someone mirror the wallpaper please (Score:1)
Re:someone mirror the wallpaper please (Score:1)
What's so hard about setting up a fake account? Like you have to give them a "valid" e-mail address. Pshaw. Just pick something, like me@you.com, and have at it.
Skipping? (Score:1)
Re:Skipping? (Score:4, Funny)
or halting every time the room shook even briefly
What the hell? For the record, I've never had my room shake, even briefly. We don't all live in California, buddy.
j/k, no terrible flames please.
BTW, my PSX takes shocks rather well. If you bump it while it's loading, sometimes it takes a few seconds to recover, but rarely does a PSX game read the disc continuously for something like this to cause a huge problem. Also remember that under most circumstances, you aren't jamming buttons while the disc is being read... you're waiting for the game to load.
The only time I can get a game to crash is to actually reach in and stop the disk from spinning. (No, not a good practice, I know. I've only done it twice.)
Re:Skipping? (Score:1)
Free-spinning CD... (Score:1)
Re:Free-spinning CD... (Score:1)
Re:Free-spinning CD...A warning (Score:1)
"Keep foreign objects away from the spinning cd....yes that includes your crotch, numbnuts!"
Switch the LCD with a Head Screen!! (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Switch the LCD with a Head Screen!! (Score:1)
c64 portable? (Score:1)
Oooh... (Score:1)
Now *that* I would like.
I wonder what the consumption is like for the PS2's circuitry...
PSOne already is portable. (-; (Score:2)
But if you dont want to hack, you can buy a PSOne LCD screen for it, there are few types.
http://www.sonyweb.com/news/0101/049.html [sonyweb.com]
http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/specials/specia
http://www.happypuppy.com/psx/hardware/psonehardw
http://www.games-console.com/acatalog/Games_Conso
http://www.eclectic-vg.com/psoneeng.htm [eclectic-vg.com]
Fileplanet (Score:1)
Re:Fileplanet (Score:1)
Re:Fileplanet (Score:1)
x-files look-a-like (Score:1)
All that and he calls it the *what*? (Score:1)
The "Playboy".
(With apologies to Playstation and Gameboy lovers everywhere.)
CF
hmm... (Score:2)
Re:hmm... (Score:1)
Jeremy
What? (Score:2)
It's Already Portable (Score:1, Redundant)
mine has better battery life (Score:5, Interesting)
it can emulate just about anything you throw at it, since it has a spiffy, wicked fast processor inside (not the fastest in the world, but it'll do in a pinch), and it has enough keys and buttons in the built-in controller to bind to even the most complicated of game controllers - plus USB to connect additional players if you like. the best part, though, apart from the ~5 hour battery life - and only a little less under heavy load, even spinning CDs, i've found - is the amazing thin, small, high-definition LCD screen. it's a thing of beauty. another perk is that it has the ability to play games over the internet, wirelessly, with 802.11 (though the manufacturer refers to it as "airport")
yep, it's an iBook.
a little heavier (but not much!), and more general-purpose than the portable PS1, but infinitely more useful
so take these stories about a portable this, a hacked up that, or a MAME the other, and stick them.. well, i don't care where you stick them.
Re:mine has better battery life (Score:1)
I'll order one right off the apple site, right now, if it does...
Re:mine has better battery life (Score:2)
a little heavier (but not much!), and more general-purpose than the portable PS1, but infinitely more useful
I think you mean any other platform, except the Windows platform, right?
Ouch!
Re:mine has better battery life (Score:2)
no. i mean any platform. my logic may be flawed, but it goes like this: i can play any game made for mac - ever (considering i can still play games made for OS 6.0.x, some of which need a mac plus emulator to run on a PPC), any game available via MAME, all the console emulators, and any title made for linux/unix as well (thanks virtualPC and darwin), and almost all the games ever made for DOS or Windows. sure, there are 3D games that are slow (but still play) and some recent titles i can't play in emulation, but those are almost all available in mac native form. so i add it up (of course, i have no actual numbers...) and come up with more games than you.
this is the point where i stick out my tongue and walk away.
Re: (Score:2)
Re:mine has better battery life (Score:1)
price (Score:1)
The thing which has been missing from every other (Score:1)
I wish other hand helds allowed for that, and I also love the concept of this thing in general. it looks great, and I think sony should sell them itself
Re:The thing which has been missing from every oth (Score:1)
Help me find CD-single player (similar disc mount) (Score:2)
BTW: "Innovation" has both a larger-than-Sony LCD screen for the PSone and a battery pack. I just can't find any links at the moment.
where to get 5" or 4" lcd screens for pc (Score:1)
Big Deal- anyone can do this (Score:2)
Buy a PS-one
Buy the screen for it
Buy the battery pack for it
Voila. I have it with spending 15 minutes putting things together and using plastic money.
and the above combo is smaller and prettier.
Re:Runs On a Sony Lithium Battery ?!? (Score:2)
Re:Runs On a Sony Lithium Battery ?!? (Score:2)
Re:Runs On a Sony Lithium Battery ?!? (Score:1)
Re:I integrated my psOne into my car... (Score:1)
Re:Any support for Beowulf clustering? (Score:1)
Jinshaun
Re:HOLY SWEET jESUS!!! (Score:1)