GBA Getting Bluetooth 137
Tofuhead writes "nReach recently announced their development of a Bluetooth adapter for the Nintendo Game Boy Advance. P2P wireless gaming, internet gaming (via a USB adapter to a net-connected PC), and messaging are featured, as well as service "hot spots" that will be set up in game stores and malls. Release date: Q2 2002."
Countless children shall go blind soon after. I can't imagine a harder to see
screen then my cursed GBA.
Cursed GBA? (Score:1)
Re:Cursed GBA? (Score:1)
Re:Cursed GBA? (Score:1)
Oh yeah? I put the crappiness of this Palm 505 screen up against your GBA any day!
Re:Duh. The backlight is for the *next* version... (Score:1)
If they have just a 'backlit' version it isn't worth my money, I'll just use a gameshark advance to copy my gamesaves to PC and run an emulator.
Just buy the GBA to TV Adaptor if its hard to see. (Score:1, Informative)
Here is a link. (Score:1, Informative)
This isn't the main page, but it'll do so people know it exists
Re:for thoses who dont like broken links (Score:2, Informative)
http://www3.goldenshop.com.hk/AI-trad/gba/tvadapt
Re:Just buy the GBA to TV Adaptor if its hard to s (Score:3, Funny)
Wouldn't that somehow eliminate the main reason for having a handheld and portable gaming system in the first place?
Re:No! It's the *GAMES* not the system. (Score:1)
Re:Just buy the GBA to TV Adaptor if its hard to s (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Just buy the GBA to TV Adaptor if its hard to s (Score:1)
You god-damned pixelated rasterbaters make me sick
Re:Just buy the GBA to TV Adaptor if its hard to s (Score:1)
Re:Just buy the GBA to TV Adaptor if its hard to s (Score:1)
see it [lik-sang.com].
For now on NTSC only. It requires some handywork to replace the back shell.
GBA (Score:5, Funny)
Re:GBA (Score:3, Insightful)
It's just CmdrTaco's typical editorial soapbox comment that he attaches to most stories.
On a more positive note, this bluetooth adapter sounds awesome. Can anybody comment on the hackability factor of the GBA? I'd buy one if I could hop onto any wireless network for surfing, email, etc.
Re:GBA (Score:3, Informative)
I just got my GBA for Christmas (yes, I'm 30 years old... what's your point?) and the first thing I started thinking about was how to start programming for it. Here's some of the stuff I found:
And of course a Google search will bring up a bunch more, but these are the nicest I've found so far. The last link is great because it has "demo" programs that include the code - which is key for learning how the insides of this thing work. There's an asteroids example that's really nice.
One thing that I just realized is that the GBA is based on a ARM/Thumb processor and includes a "Z80 like" processor also for when you insert GBC games. This is pretty wild. I think I'll submit an article to /. on how many companies are using ARM-based processors now. I just read that Simbian has just been ported to the ARM, PocketPCs use them exclusively, etc.
-Russ
GBA woes... (Score:2, Offtopic)
I bought my wife a GBA because she really wanted it. As soon as we brought it home we realized it was missing something! Backlighting. DUH. I'm spoiled but I guess I just thought that the people at Nintendo weren't stupid. Guess I was wrong.
So I went back to the store and picked up a "Shark Lite". What a poor product! Whenever she tried to play with the Shark Lite, it would be in her way or it would cause a reflective glare.
Back to the lamp behind her head while she plays. Oh the whole GBA backlight problem gives me post-purchase depression.
What a nuisance it is to try and play a game on the GBA when you need to position yourself in a contorted manner just to get to see what you're doing in the game.
Who knows, maybe my 1 year old daughter will find a use for it.
Re:GBA woes... (Score:2, Informative)
All in all, I'm quite happy with my GBA, and can see it fine during daylight ("daylight, what's that?" cry 10,000 slashdot geeks) or with any electric lights at approx 60 watt tungsten-filament-bulb equivalent or above - i.e. anywhere I'd normally care to play it - and for those places where I wouldn't normally play it, there's GBA-compatible (with cable-pass-through) white-led worm lights available now (at least here in Ireland), which work fine for me.
Honestly, you didn't expect to play older gameboys in the dark without a light, why should the GBA be different? Historically, backlit color handhelds didn't do well in the marketplace, because their battery life was so short, and seeing as the GBA is targetted at kids, who will mainly be using it in daylight anyway, one would hope.
Now, if you live inside the artic circle, I suppose that the constant darkness in winter could make it a little more difficult...
Re:GBA woes... (Score:3, Interesting)
Once you've played a handheld with backlighting--I'm thinking specifically of the Atari Lynx--then you're spoiled forever.
Re:GBA woes... (Score:2, Interesting)
Hopefully, this guy [portablemonopoly.com] should solve all our GBA annoyances soon :-)
Re:GBA woes... (Score:1)
Re:GBA woes... (Score:1)
Re:GBA woes... (Score:1)
Oh The GBA is targeted at classic gamers _and_ kids. It's the last best hope for 2-d tile based gaming. Oh well there is always Emulation to fall back on if gaming companies abandon us 2-d classic gamers.
As for the artic circle that midnight sun during summer has to be a real seasonal boon for GBA users.
Re:GBA woes... (Score:3, Informative)
Here in the UK (And probably elsewhere as well) they sell a neat little light for the GBA that's called the "GBA Floodlights". (Or something similar.)
They work really well, take a look at photos of mine [mwongozi.net].
I like the sound of the Bluetooth adapter, if only for multiplayer gaming without the damned wire...
Re:GBA woes... (Score:1)
Re:GBA woes... (Score:1)
also, flourescent lights work great, my biggest use for the thing is sitting someplace waitnig for something. customer service, food order to be ready, etc.
Re:GBA woes... (Score:1)
Re:GBA woes... (Score:1)
It uses a very subtle "white, flourenscent looking" light and works very well - it makes the GBA screen appear backlit.
$10 CDN at "Superstore" (in Canada).
Lack of Bluetooth on PCs (Score:5, Insightful)
And here we see the problem that I think Bluetooth is still facing - there just isn't enough market penetration on PCs. What I would really like to see is something bluetooth-style on the desktop (rather than USB) so that I didn't have to mess with all those cables all the time.
For 'network games' you could run a server on the PC (or a multiplexer for internet games), then just sit around on couches playing, rather than all huddling up withing controller-cable distance, or getting off your lazy arse to go untagle medusa-the-controller-herd.
Ahh for time to play games (flash is responsible for all sorts of evils on the web, and time-wasting games numbers among them I say. I've just taken out a few minutes from flash-games on the web to write a slashdot comment, while my girlfriend takes off ahead on the laptop - I think she's about 3 levels ahead of me now dammit. Must stop slashdotting......)
Re:Lack of Bluetooth on PCs (Score:5, Informative)
Bluetooth only belongs on devices with their own power source, it isn't a replacement for FireWire or USB.
Re:Lack of Bluetooth on PCs (Score:4, Interesting)
Sure - an example from right here in front of me is the Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse[tm]. I am so in love with this thing (or something). It's responsive, reliable, chews through a couple of AAA's every year or so with my use (which is quite a lot) - I think last time I replaced them because it was being jerky, it was actually Windows bitrot, and changing the batteries didn't fix things - but I thought at the rate it eats them, no worries.
What I'd like is for something in the PC to talk directly to the mouse, rather than having a PS/2 dongle hanging off to talk to it.
Yes, there are issues with synchronising in a busy room - I'm sure they can be handled. Again, I think the logitech 'hold down this button on both devices' theory is good - make it a button on the front of the PC, and chances are very good that two people, even in a crowded office, won't try it at the same time. If they do, it could even detect that and emit a beep or similar, then use good old 'backoff for a couple of minutes or so and try again'.
If I had keyboard and mouse chatting bluetooth, it would be a great start. Sure I can get the Logitech equipment that does that, but I have to have the connector box, and I can't move it from one machine to another. Add in a palm-type device that chats directly with the same protocol (no more lining up IR ports), and all would be wonderful.
Don't mind my pipe-dreams, I see that ASIO are listening already, without needing radio equipment on my desk making their job easier. After all, I'm a subversive Linux user/probably hacker or virus writer.
Re:Lack of Bluetooth on PCs (Score:1)
My portable has only one usb port so I've set
up a USB hub to be able to use my logitech
cordless desktop. Yes it's one radio receiver
with two very long cables attached! Add the USB cable and power cable to the hub and you have
more cable than you can imagine...
Any wireless idea is pretty much useless if it's connected by wire. So logitech, bluetooth, WiFi and the rest must get inside the hosts, and anyone making external accessories must realize that if they have a good product their market will disappear as soon as this happens.
I've yet to see if portable computers with built in antennas will work. Compaq has something (expensive) going with their multiport, but first they should make sure their computers don't reboot when you get a call on your cellular.
Re:Lack of Bluetooth on PCs (Score:1)
Re:Lack of Bluetooth on PCs (Score:2)
May not be a big deal, but I remember when people were raving about USB devices because it gave them 12Mbps, decreasing their response time in games like Unreal and such.
Just a thought.
Re:Lack of Bluetooth on PCs (Score:1)
Bluetooth may (I'm not sure) suffer from latency issues, but 1Mbps is more than enough for a mouse.
Re:Lack of Bluetooth on PCs (Score:2)
May not be a big deal, but I remember when people were raving about USB devices because it gave them 12Mbps, decreasing their response time in games like Unreal and such.
I probably wouldn't be playing Unreal with it - but that is a good point actually - I guess in a cubical farm, anything networkish is going to want to play nice with a lot of other machines. For home use though, there wouldn't be _that_ many other devices competing.
Ok, so bluetooth on the desktop maybe isn't such a good idea, but I'd still like to see bluetooth integrated with the motherboard, so that I didn't have to plug in a USB dongle/cable to talk to every little handheld device.
Re:Lack of Bluetooth on Palms (Score:2)
Re:Lack of Bluetooth on Palms (Score:1)
http://www.socketcom.com/product/bluetoothcard.
and IBM's AlphaWorks has a Palm Bluetooth stack:
http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/bluetooth4pa
Theoretically, it should work. Theoretically.
Backlit screen (Score:5, Informative)
clear screen that serves the purpose of a backlight. You can visit the page
and view screenshots here [portablemonopoly.com].
Basically, people are just waiting for the guy to finish negotiations with the
suppliers. He expects the cost to be about the price of a game, all said and
done.
SealBeater
AdBoy Advance (Score:2, Insightful)
Grrrrrreat. Can't wait until I have to sit through 5 minutes of ads aimed at 10-year-olds just so I can play MarioKart Advance with a friend.
Screen not bad (Score:3, Interesting)
As for this internet connection thing. It's pretty cool and all. But I'm so not buying into it. First of all, it's not an officially licensed Nintendo product. 3rd party hardware and peripherals suck. Also, if I'm going to play a game online, why would I sit next to a computer with a little GBA and a USB cable? I have a COMPUTER, I'll play me some (insert 3d online multiplayer game). Now what would be amazing would be if I could be driving in my car and playing against a kid in his car in California, with absolutely no wires attatched to my GBA. That I would buy no matter who made it.
Re:Screen not bad (Score:1)
NEWS FLASH: bluetooth is wireless and this product will get you on the internet, and i don't know if you realized this or not but the GB does not need any wires its battery powered bluetooth gets a good 30 ft of range
Re:Screen not bad (Score:1)
sorry
Car accidents? (Score:4, Funny)
Is it just me, or did this sound really dangerous?
Re:Car accidents? (Score:2, Funny)
Not if he gets the star power-up that makes his car temporarily invincible...
Re:Car accidents? (Score:1)
I am really regretting using my mod points the other day. lol
Re:Screen not bad (Score:3, Insightful)
Screen not bad -- it's AWFUL (Score:2, Interesting)
Anyhow, how you can say "other than that it's a vast improvement on past gameboys" really confuses me. I was under the impression that the improved screen was one of the main selling points for the GBA. I've been playing Castlevania (which is great) and other than being much more comfortable to hold, how is this different from old skool gameboy/color? Please don't tell me that the graphics are so much better because I can't see them.
Re:Screen not bad -- it's AWFUL (Score:1)
Unfortunately, the best place to see my GBA is in my bathroom. The lighting conditions are perfect for some reason (the white tile maybe?). So I spend a LOT more time in there than normal...
"Are you alright, honey? You've been in there for a loooong time... What's that tinny music sound?"
-Russ
Re:Screen not bad -- it's AWFUL (Score:2)
I don't know why people complain so much. Just go out and buy a damned light if it bothers you that much. They're not expensive and they work pretty well. Geez, the original Gameboy, the most successful console ever with good sales for 11 years, didn't come with any lighting and no one thought a thing of it.
Re:Screen not bad -- it's AWFUL (Score:1)
Re:Screen not bad -- it's AWFUL (Score:2)
Call it luck, but I've yet to find a lighting situation where I couldn't see the screen, and I find your pessimistic summary of the screen's abilities to fall quite short of my experience. Trust me that I am not lying, and trust me that I do not wear night-vision goggles when I play. So, given all my experience with the same screen that you have, I must strongly disagree with you and say that it is nowhere as bad as you claim.
Re:Screen not bad -- it's better (Score:1)
Thanks for your feedback. Glad everybody isn't as glum as I (was).
new babysitter? (Score:2, Funny)
"Honey, the movie starts at 7 and the babysitter isn't here yet!"
"Let's just drop the kids off at Wal-Mart. It's open 24 hours right? And they have one of those Game Boy Blue Advanced Teeth things to keep the kids connected to their peers!"
"Good idea! Those Game Boys were such a smart investment!"
bleah on that!
P2P wireless gaming? (Score:1)
I can't real time action games working like this. What's going to happen if you are playing while riding in a car or bus and go out of range? What happens to your game? Not to mention the latency problems with P2P vs. a dedicated server.
I use a GBA emulator for homebrew ROMs (Score:1)
What about all of us who decided not to purchase the Gameboy Advance, and merely play it with our emulator and roms?
I have VisualBoyAdvance [emuhq.com] for one reason: homebrew. It's a heck of a lot faster to test software that I just wrote and compiled [gbadev.org] on an emulator than to wait for a transfer over the MBV2 netboot cable.
Re:Ahem. (Score:1)
Excellent! (Score:1)
Re:Excellent! (Score:1)
Ah, networking posabillities.... (Score:1)
Can't you imagine? (Score:1, Insightful)
Picture this: Keeping fragging your friends at work while you're sitting on the throne... Well some games are better played with a mouse anyway
But still I see great future for this bluetooth addon. Like Instant Messaging is something I've always been looking forward to. Especially on mobile agents. And bluetooth could also give the GBA some video / audio capabilities. How about listening to your MP3s on the GBA?
I may be dreaming here. But hey who's not...
Re:Can't you imagine? (Score:1)
Speaking of a Quake-port, I don't think the GBA have the guts to run it... I have an iPaq with a 206MHz Strongarm cpu and 32mb ram, and the latest version of PocketQuake [pocketmatrix.com] runs at 9-10fps tops. If my memory isn't terribly wrong, the GameBoy Advance have a far less powerfull cpu and have less than the minimum 8mb ram the Quake-engine needs to even run.
blegh. (Score:1)
Ha! (Score:2, Insightful)
Ever use a Virtual Boy? Now THAT was a screen to make you go blind (four actually IIRC).
Re:Ha! (Score:1)
the TurboGraphics Express was a backlit color portable, however, and it rocked ass for satan.
Re:Ha! (Score:1)
Someone help me figure this out.. (Score:1)
Damnit CmdrTaco, learn english already. (Score:1, Troll)
Re:Damnit CmdrTaco, learn english already. (Score:1)
"Damnit" is two words,ie: Damn it. Or if you prefer the slang version, it's "dammit" without the n.
The Screen is Fine (Score:3, Insightful)
In fact, the screen is better than GBC's, and *loads* better than the original Game Boy's. (Dig yours out and see if you like the pale green and shadowing better..) Yet, these systems are very popular and successful. (Did you know that Nintendo had the #1 revenue in video games last year, despite the PS2 and Dreamcast release? Nearly twice Sony's earnings, and it was mostly the GBC.)
It would be nice if there were a back-lit version (I wouldn't buy it unless it had a long battery life, though), or if developers didn't make games with such dark graphics (castlevania...), but seriously, there are much worse things to complain about. How about a highly portable laptop that lasts more than 3 hours on battery? An input device that doesn't give you RSI? A car that doesn't pollute?
Re:The Screen is Fine (Score:1)
My iBook easily lasts 4+ hours on batteries.
Re:The Screen is Fine (Score:1)
So much for "open" standards ... (Score:2)
Re:So much for "open" standards ... (Score:2)
These people scare me... (Score:1)
Make no mistake, their market is retailers who want to flood kids with ads. I'm sure that their patent application will emphasize the link to their "hot spots" and delivery of targeted marketing materials.
illuminated gameboy advance! (Score:1)
the guy ahead of the above site is trying to piece together a frontlight kit for people to install in their own gba.
give it a look & your support.
Re:illuminated gameboy advance! (Score:1)
XFree86 for GBA? (Score:1)
Yes, I'm trying to be silly but no doubt someone will or has already done it.
GBA doesn't have enough RAM for that (Score:1)
I'm still waiting for someone to do a Linux/XFree86 port for the GBA.
With only 288 KB of main memory (not counting ROM)? Not likely.
A backlight hack for the GBA (Score:1)
If you want to play it when you're not sitting right next to a lamp, there is a solution. Portable Monopoly [portablemonopoly.com] has details of a backlight hack for the GBA, and so far it's working extremely well. It uses white LEDs, can be switched on and off as you like, and consumes very little power.
Re:A backlight hack for the GBA (Score:1)
GBA screens (Score:1, Interesting)
-DrkShadow
GP32! (Score:1)
Quake (Score:1)
And as for Bluetooth, sure, being able to play Advance Wars against some snot-nosed kid in Outer Mongolia is wonderful, but IMO the most practical use of this is setting up a network in your house, so you can play against your friends without being confined to a short length of semi-flexible cord.
Re:ergh.. (Score:1)
I shouldn't reply to this troll, but for anyone who doesn't know much about consoles, I humbly offer this information:
1)You paid $2000 for a "gaming system" that will be obsolete in 2 years? Proves the point that most hardcore PC gamers are rich, stupid, or both.
2)FPS's aren't the center of the gaming universe. They will probably always be better on PCs. However, Dreamcast has a keyboard and mouse, and PS2 supports USB peripherals. I've had lots of fun playing Unreal Tournament online with the Dreamcast and my broadband adapter-no aimbots, or transparent walls-just healthy competitive gaming.
3)Phantasy Star Online (an ONLINE CONSOLE GAME) moved over a million copies worldwide. The modem is built into the Dreamcast, so Dreamcast sale=modem sale.
4)PS2's are $299, while GBA is $99. That's $200 difference, not $100.
Pay attention to my sig. It describes your post perfectly.
PS2 on PS2? (Score:1)
PS2 supports USB peripherals.
But why doesn't the Sony PS2 support PS/2 peripherals?
re: Re:ergh.. (Score:1)
the only system that could really do something like this is the Xbox... given the hard drive. and even still.. if they have to make patches or addons that are large (and most certainly would cost) how good is an 8gig HDD really?
i like the idea of being able to put 120gigs in a PC for $209..
PSO is all well and good.. but how many ppl are playing Q3A online right now? or RTCW? think about it.
consoles are getting close, but they're just not there. sorry for the GBA price error.. they were more expensive at least initially and just went completely off my radar after i played one.
show me a console that can push max payne 1600x1200x32bpp at 70fps
Re: Re:ergh.. (Score:1)
Re: Re:ergh.. (Score:1)
The Dreamcast didn't fail in the US or Europe (although it didn't succeed anywhere near the level of the Playstation). In the US, SEGA sold more Dreamcasts on launch day than they ever sold of the Saturn. Mounting financial problems from the Saturn days finally got to SEGA, and they were forced to abandon the hardware business.
Next time you step out of your downy feather bed to go play Doom 2k2 on your gold plated computer, you might want to open your mind to the possibility of spending that hundred-dollar bill on a Dreamcast and some games instead of using it to light your cigar.
Re: Re:ergh.. (Score:1)
maybe i'm the idiot here.. i thought that when a mfg. reduced the price of a product by 70% and started blowing them out like crazy it meant that they were failing at it. sure, perhaps it's because sega lost to sony but that's neither here nor there. no matter where the financial problems came from the fact is that they failed.
and, on the original topic of networking your consoles for multiplayer purposes, it would seem that even the 'fantastic!' multiplayer features and top-selling multiplayer titles couldn't save the dreamcast or sega.
now that the new generation of consoles are being churned out full blast we'll have to see. but sony is the only company that seems to do exceedingly well at anything console-based.
so now, with sony's announced intention to sell a 40GB HDD peripheral, it looks like they're seriously going head-to-head with M$ (maker of the best next-gen console imho)..
with sega out of the picture and nintendo pushing their usual glorified duplo blocks we'll see who the real winner is. and i can assure you it's not going to be based on multiplayer capabilities because, that's right, NOBODY PLAYS CONSOLE GAMES ONLINE!!!
GBA docking stations (Score:2)
there is no GBA(or Xbox, or PS2) docking station that lets me plug in a nice monitor
TV de Advance [lik-sang.com] fits onto the back of your GBA and feeds the video to a nice TV. Think of it as Super Game Boy Advance.
keyboard, and mouse for my FPSs.
As Gizzmonic said, first-person shooters aren't the be-all and end-all of video games. But if you really want to play Doom Advance on your PC, use this docking station: Visoly Flash Advance Linker [lik-sang.com] + VisualBoy Advance [emuhq.com].
Re:hey (Score:1)
Anyway, why the fuck does everyone keep bitching about the GBA screen?! It's the same as the Gameboy and Gameboy Color screens, and at least it's GOOD color, unlike Gameboy Color. What the fuck are you trying to do, play it in the dark? Turn on the light, you dipshits. This bitching is starting to piss me off...