To The Pain 340
Reedo writes: "If you enjoy gaming and pain, this is for you. Two German designers have developed the Painstation, which is basically a revamped Pong. Except for one major difference - The PEU(Pain Execution Unit), which delivers a dose of pain to your left hand in the form of heat, punches or electroshock, when you mess up."
LIke 007!!! (Score:5, Insightful)
How do you expect me to win? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:LIke 007!!! (Score:1)
I have avoided NSNA like the plague (I'm strictly a fan of the Broccoli productions), but NSNA is a remake of Thunderball, in which the villain was Italian. But Kevin McClory might well have made the character German.
the bad guy is always a german... (Score:2, Informative)
score: -1, informative
Re:the bad guy is always a german... (Score:2)
Gert Fröbe was German, but the character Auric Goldfinger is supposed to be British.
Re:the bad guy is always a german... (Score:2)
villain's accents (Score:2)
As the coldwar progressed, the villains became commies. As the south american drug trade progressed, se saw more of them. In the near future, we'll see more arabs with bad afghanistan accents--though I expect there will always be a token "good Arab" to show that the producer isn't prejudiced . .
hawk
Re:villain's accents (Score:2, Informative)
The Klingons in 60s Star Trek bear great resemblance to the Krushchev-era Soviets - belligerant, aggressive, bombastic, but not actually willing to start a full war. There are no Nazi-elements to them.
Re:the bad guy is always a german... (Score:2, Funny)
> In the UK we usually cast Americans as Gung-ho > idiots with Germans as the bas guys and the > British (stiff upper lip and all that) as the > heroes....
In Germany we don't cast for movies. We dub American movies. We never figured out though how to give people a German accent when everyone is already talking German.
NES boxing! (Score:1)
har har
Re:NES boxing! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:NES boxing! (Score:1)
Gah (Score:1)
Re:Gah (Score:1)
Hmmm.... (Score:5, Funny)
PoIP (Pain over IP) protocol. Coming to an RFC near you.
Re:Hmmm.... (Score:1)
Re:Hmmm.... (Score:2)
Re:Hmmm.... (Score:2)
In which an RFC-Standard protocol would be implemented in all computer operating systems. Electrodes embedded in keyboard keys and mice (optionally, seats) would be wired to the building. Upon the user doing something stupid, for instance, opening an e-mail they were explicitly told via e-mail and domain-wide net send not to open, current of varying intensity can be applied to the user.
This would of course need to be scripted for use in most environments.
Unfortunately, i'd be too tempted to hack the system at my former employer. -angst-.
Re:Hmmm.... (Score:5, Funny)
Actually I'm glad we can't... If we could, I'm quite
sure I'd actually get and install Windows, and I don't want
to hurt my beloved computer that badly.
Re:Hmmm.... (Score:2)
what about your mobile phone then?
//rdj
4/01 is coming... (Score:3, Interesting)
There are but weeks to go; time to start reviewing other 04/01 RFCs for further inspiration....
How to do this for, oh, $10 (Score:5, Funny)
Download Pong ROM
Buy Hammer
Thwack self on hand with hammer on death.
Rinse, lather, repeat until hand becomes bloody stump.
Re:How to do this for, oh, free (Score:2, Funny)
Yell "Harleys suck ass and I'm doing your woman!"
Less money, much more realistic effect.
Re:How to do this for, oh, free (Score:2, Funny)
Yell "Harleys suck ass and I'm doing your woman!"
no, that's for when you lose on Mortal Kombat
Fatality!
Re:How to do this for, oh, $10 (Score:2)
If you'd follow these directions on the shampoo, you'd be going to work with a head full of soap.
It's also a DVD/CD player (Score:4, Funny)
Re:It's also a DVD/CD player (Score:3, Funny)
//rdj
the first step (Score:1)
A step forward for tactile peripherals... (Score:1)
The porn sites will make a killing.
Welcome to the era of cyber-hookers!
At least it's safe sex
been there... (Score:3, Funny)
Simple question... (Score:1)
well, at least the painstation (Score:1)
now, if you'll excuse me, I've got next . . .
...uh... (Score:1, Flamebait)
what the fuck is wrong with German people? (Score:4, Funny)
The funniest part was about the idiots who stuck to it because they didn't want to back down in front of an audience. This game will be great at separating showy meatheads from people who listen to their inner Pavlov despite their vanity.
"Yeah, but I didn't know you were going to be giving me electric shocks... just what are you trying to prove here, anyway?"
Indeed.
Obligatory response (Score:4, Funny)
"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
Re:what the fuck is wrong with German people? (Score:2)
At last, a way for people to conduct Milgram's experiment on themselves.
boring (Score:1)
figures (Score:1)
i'm not a racist, i swear...all in good fun, i hope
Re:figures (Score:2)
To The Pain - The Reference (Score:5, Informative)
From The Princess Bride [imdb.com]
Re:To The Pain - The Reference (Score:2)
"INDIGO INDIGO...
Hello, My name is Indigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to DIE!!"
Re:To The Pain - The Reference (Score:2)
Re:To The Pain - The Reference (Score:2)
Oh my god.. think of the children.. *sigh*
//rdj
Re:To The Pain - The Reference (Score:2)
Westley: "There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world, it would be a shame to waste yours.."
//rdj
Re:To The Pain - The Reference (Score:2)
Can't let it slip by . . . must correct reference . . . it's actually "...'twould be a pity to damage yours".
Sorry. You spelled his name right, though.
Re:To The Pain - The Reference (Score:2)
Needs some updating... (Score:1)
But, um... (Score:2)
--
Damn the Emperor!
Re:But, um... (Score:3, Funny)
That would be Pang.
pang (png) n. 1. A sudden sharp spasm of pain. 2. A sudden, sharp feeling of emotional distress.
ok, so. (Score:1)
sexy? (Score:1)
Or perhaps does pain engender some other sort of emotion for other people?
Re:sexy? (Score:5, Funny)
Zelda fan AND female. Marry me. Pain optional.
Re:sexy? (Score:2)
Well, I pretty much haven't. I spend my days in lecture halls (just north of ND in fact, in Winnipeg) of about 150 people, maximum 5 of which are female. And of those, all 5 will say the same thing - they're in Computer Science because "it's a well-paying job".
But what got me excited was the videogame love, and of course the insane geekiness of actually posting on
Re:sexy? (Score:2)
I swear, that post only lasted about 30 seconds...
Perhaps I'll try to explain slightly more (as it appears moderators have no sense of humor).
There is a difference betweening being a programmer and programming. One is a state of being and the other is a function.
I do not believe that women are less capable of programming (performing the function) than men. What I do believe though, is that women do not choose programming as a state of being.
Men and women are fundamentally different. Many people are entirely too liberal in assuming that they are the same. Being different does not necessarly make one superior to the other.
If you observe the posters journal, she states, "I'm not a hardcore geek. I'm a thinker, and the computer and technology field has a huge are for new thoughts". There is a fundamental drive for people who are hardcore geeks. There's a passion and a beauty in it that I swear is genetic.
There's a difference between posting flame bait and an idea that is different than what most people think. I don't mind being mod'd down, but atleast give people a chance to read it for god sakes.
Re:sexy? (Score:2)
And the current game pllatforms are fighting (Score:1)
And the current game platforms are fighting people for being too violent?
I fear that the pain will be a little too much for too many people and too little for others.
Burns, heart attacks, and other problems will stop this from being a cool platform that it could be.
with this system, a broken controller button might piss you off a bit more.
We're just not ready as a society for this yet, we squabble over incompetance in copyrights and intelectual property rights more than we try to improve the world for the betterment of man.
As soon as there are foundations funding and protecting people for their contributions rather than mega-corperations trying to sue them and get their marketshare, then we will be able to accept the responsibility for a game platform like this.
Re:And the current game pllatforms are fighting (Score:2, Funny)
Where does pain-inducing Pong fit into the betterment of man?
Pain Releases Endorphins (Score:2)
No no no... you don't understand!!! (Score:5, Funny)
-Restil
Re:No no no... you don't understand!!! (Score:3, Funny)
Is this really healthy? (Score:5, Insightful)
Research being wasted on silly projects like this should instead be focused on voice recognition, speech synthesis, and other computer interface technologies that will finally allow us to eliminate the torturous tools that are the modern keyboard and mouse. My friend, who once commanded a six-figure salary coding C++ for a large development firm, has been crippled by these implements and now has to struggle with demeaning part-time jobs in order to put food on the table. I would hate to see this happen to somebody again. We must throw off the shackles of the typing paradigm.
Right... (Score:2)
Re:Is this really healthy? (Score:2, Interesting)
We must throw off the shackles of the typing paradigm.
That's funny, I've been typing for long periods of time (lately 12-16 hours a day isn't unusual) a day for the last 15 years or so and I've never had my wrists hurt. I suspect this is related to the fact that I taught myself to type, rather than having that godawful "home row" method drilled into me (which did hurt for the few weeks I was forced to do it in school). I wouldn't denounce the keyboard just yet.
My thumbs will agree with you on the bit about game controllers, though.
Re:Is this really healthy? (Score:2)
when i sit down, my fingers are usually on asdfjop'. From there, they fly all over the place. Posture has a lot to do with how comfortable you are typing, i think. I've used the same desk with the extendable writing surfaces to either side for -years-. The desk is in awful shape. I Need to refinish it, if i ever get another job
Re:Is this really healthy? (Score:2)
If you're worried about getting a bad case, so bad you won't be able to work, do this every morning:
- Hold you hands out straight at the level of your ribs
- Clench your hands into fists as tight as you can for 1 second
- Flex your hands open and splay your fingers as far as they will go for 5 seconds.
- Repeat until you've done 5 to 10 of them.
This is supposed to "scuff" off the accumulations in the carpal tunnel and improve the clearance your tendons have inside your wrists. Ever since I added that stretch to my morning, my CT problems have stopped recurring. I'm not any kind of medical professional, but of the medical advice I've received on this, holding your wrists straight and the clench/flex stretch seem to do the most real good.
As for reforming the entire PC/Consumer Electronics industry in one fell swoop, I think it's going to take more than one post. Best of luck. Just don't hurt yourself with all that impassioned typing.
Re:Is this really healthy? (Score:2)
This is obvious bullshit. Anyone who's that good of a C++ coder could find employment in the field, even if it means coding v-e-r-y slowly with a stick between his teeth (or dictating to an assistant).
Re:Is this really healthy? (Score:2)
Use a wrist elevator! Carpal tunnel happens when you type with your wrists bent up or down from the level, forcing the tendons to slide through the carpal tunnel around a corner. If you type with your wrists in line with your forearms, you'll find you can type for hours without significant problems, as long as you take frequent breaks -- which are, by the way, also good for your back.
Wrist exercises help also. I think most geeks perform wrist exercises daily.
To the pain isn't the best headline (Score:2)
By the way, I do believe this is the first story I've seen with a new Big F@(!*@ Ad.
hm (Score:4, Interesting)
Personally, I'd like to see a study that pits the enjoyment derived from regular pong vs. pain-pong. I wouldn't be surprised if people reported a much higher level of enjoyment during pain-pong, even if they lost some of the time.
Re:hm (Score:4, Informative)
Oh yea? Have a look at this [painstation.de]. These people are sick.
--Ben
Oh wait a sec... (Score:3, Funny)
Interesting experiment (Score:2, Interesting)
Obviously, Pavlov's experiments with dogs come to mind, but the question is whether this recognition would significantly translate to digital skills, or would increase in skill be matched by non-pained individuals? Would degree of pain matter?
It would be interesting to note the threshold at which pain stops benefitting.
Re:Interesting experiment (Score:2)
I'll leave the detailed explanation of the differences between these two for someone less unqualified.
--
Damn the Emperor!
Wrong game (Score:3, Funny)
And what when you win? (Score:4, Funny)
misapplication of technology? (Score:4, Funny)
Why do you all hate this? (Score:2)
Now this is one step further, it's not just psychological, it's actually inflicting pain. This is extremely cool! But then again, I always beat everyone at Pong, so I guess I would say that.
I think this would encourage people to play better. Think Quake 3. If you got a kick in the ass everytime you got fragged, I think you'd get better.
Re:Why do you all hate this? (Score:3, Funny)
> bad about this? In the arcades in the UK, we
> have a stupid game where you hold a metal bars
> with your hand, you put the money in, and hold
> onto them for as long as possible. What they do
> is vibrate extremely quickly and ends up getting
> your hands hot, and then it feels like your
> whole arm has gone numb. Whoever holds longest
> wins. Same thing.
Now we know why the British government held out as long as it did before paying worker's compensation [wsws.org] for vibration white finger.
Re:Why do you all hate this? (Score:2)
I think it is based off of the Addams Family.
Could have used something like that... (Score:2)
Yeah. I could have used something like this back then. Oh Yeah...
Bah (Score:2)
The two-player mode is cool too, you just place a certain number of fingers, based on score, in a doorjam and let your friend give it a hearty shove!
Don't back down! (Score:2, Interesting)
Now if you combine these qualities, you get a formidable force. If Sony threatens them over over the use of the term "Painstation", I say that they shouldn't back down, and I would be puzzled if they did! Not many people would confuse an archiaic self contained bar-sized electronic table-tennis-torture device with the Sony Playstation line of Home gaming consoles, even with the "force-feedback" option. I say that these clever masochists should stand by their production in the face of the belligerent Sony, and who better to do it! If not for the cause of marketing technological advancement despite questionable Intellectual Property practice, then at least for the sake of art! More than just a proof-of-concept of a phyciological Human Computer Interaction theory, this is an artistic statement regarding the current reality of the gaming and home entertainment industries. All great art comes from suffering artists, and this is no exception!
Of course, I do have a few reservations. The word should not be an issue, but if this is going to be produced for mass marketing, then I might take exception to the use of the Playstation font or visual appearance. I think that bringing this into the world of commerce should impose some IP rules. The fact that most of this is preexisting technology should definitely be considerdd to th benefit of the Painstation.
The most important concern is how sanitary this is. I'd hate to pick up Hepatitis at the local video arcade...
-castlan
Couldn't they have been a little more creative?! (Score:2)
I mean, come on, if you want drastically improve pong skills (as it seems everybody does in today's dog-eat-dog world) then you just have to hook this system up to testicles.
Ping - dot dot - ping - dot dot - ZAAAAP!
I guanrantee you'll see marked improvement in a very short time.
Wow! a 4358 hit rally and it's still going! That is just amazing!
:)
Adrenelin rush (Score:2)
The Painstation tries to inject that same feeling into a game where you usually play forfeits (nothing quite like strip Pong). Personally I don't think it will work as well as an outdoors pursuit, where you can get the blood pumping to disperse that adrenelin effectively.
After the mechanical punch voting fiasco in California, I hear Zimbabwe is installing these sophisticated electonic devices to ensure voters cast their vote correctly...
Phillip.
I'm apologizing already... (Score:2)
Ew.. It's bad I know but with a title like "To the Pain" and 50 karma, what else was there to do?
German Painstation (Score:2, Funny)
'Ve Haf Vays unt means of maikink you scream
Already been done (Score:2)
Is this an Acme Forced-Feedback Enemy-Denial... (Score:2)
(Hate subject clipping):
Is this an Acme Forced-Feedback Enemy-Denial Smackdown Ergonomic Game Chair?
In case you don't know what I am talking about, read [userfriendly.org] these [userfriendly.org] links [userfriendly.org].
Princess Bride Reference (Score:2)
Westley: What hideous sin have you committed lately?
Buttercup: I got married. I didn't want to. It all happened so fast.
Westley: It never happened.
Buttercup: What?
Westley: It never happened.
Buttercup: But it did! I was there...this old man said man and wife.
Westley: Did you say I do?
Buttercup: Uh...no. We sort of skipped that part.
Westley: Then you're not married. You didn't say it. You didn't do it.
Wouldn't you agree, your highness?
Humperdink: A technicality that will shortly be remedied...but first things
first.. [He draws his sword] To the death!
Westley: [slowly sitting up] No! To the pain!
Humperdink: I don't think I'm quite familiar with that phrase?
Westley: I'll explain, and I'll use small words so that you'll be sure to
understand. You wart-hog-faced buffoon!
Humperdink: [insulted] That may be the first time in my life a man has dared
insult me.
Westley: It won't be the last. To the pain means the first thing you lose will
be your your feet below the ankles, then your hands at your wrists.
Next, your nose.
Humperdink: Then my tongue, I suppose? I killed you too quickly the last
time, a mistake I don't mean to duplicate tonight.
Westley: I wasn't finished! The next thing you lose will be your left eye
followed by your right!
Humperdink: And then my ears...I understand! Let's get on with it!
Westley: Wrong! Your ears you keep, and I'll tell you why; so that every
shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness is yours to cherish.
Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman that cries out,
'dear god what is that thing!' will echo in your perfect ears. That is
what to the pain means. It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in
freakish misery forever.
[Or in otherwords, you'll be turned into Cowboy Neal.]
Computer, (Score:2)
Warning. Holodeck safeties have been removed.
FOX Network (Score:2)
Now if it were only like this version of pong! (Score:2)
It's all about sex (Score:3, Funny)
One of the problems with the FuckU-FuckMe [fu-fme.com] is that it's so straightlaced. It's good to see technology advancing to address the needs of people who are into S&M.
What to wear, what to wear? (Score:2)
So, does this mean I should wear tight black leather, studded collar, S&M mask, and have a "mistress" with me when I use this device?
Do you.. (Score:3, Funny)
No
Ouch!
No
Ouch!
okay, yes!
Pong, first generation PC game ?!??! (Score:2)
The game itself is based on the first-generation PC game known as Pong, or bar tennis, and is followed by both players through a graphics display in the center of the table.
Huh, the author makes it sound like pong was first implemented on a PC. Hello ???
Go Outside (Score:3, Interesting)
So, just yesterday I was having a conversation with this guy from the Netherlands, and he was telling me how weird the Germans are. I told him they seemed pretty much like everyone else to me. Today, I'm not so sure.
But hey, if you want to be involved with activities where there is potential for pain if you mess up, may I suggest the following:
Been there, done that (Score:2)
2) Install game on PC, enter 157 digit serial code on back of jewel case.
3) (With great anticipation) Start up game - locks up.
4) Reboot, connect to game Web site, download patchs 1 - 5.
5) Install patches 1 - 5
6) (With anticipation) Start-up game - locks up.
7) Go to M$ site, and download latest version of DirectX
8) Install latest version of DirectX
9) Reboot
10) (With resignation) Start-up game - locks up.
11) Go to Video card manufacturer Web site - download updates to video card driver.
12) Install updates to video driver.
13) Reboot
14) (With great resignation) Start-up game - locks up.
15) Go out to "Gaming" Web site - look through FAQ's, message boards
16) Tweak video card configuration settings
17) Reboot
18) (With fear and loathing) Start up game - it runs!
Compared to this "Painstation" is for WIMPS!!
Re:Mad sick (Score:1)
Half of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.
Re:To the pain? (Score:2)
This is a great one! Where are you moderators to bounce this up?