

Atari Announces an Official Portable 2600 System 279
Bill Kendrick writes: "Infogrames (the folks who now own Atari) have just struck a deal with another company to produce a 10-in-1 video game system based on the Atari 2600. It'll be joystick-shaped, plug into a TV set, cost only $20, and include games like Combat, Asteroids, Missile Command, and my favorite, Adventure! It won't replace my Atari 2600 Jr and 60 cartridges, but it's a step in the right direction!"
Hell Yah (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Hell Yah (Score:2, Informative)
they delivered to me 8 times reliably
Re:Hell Yah (Score:4, Informative)
If you live in the UK, head on down to your local Game [game-retail.co.uk] store. Mine's still selling Lynx and Jaguar games (and indeed, Jaguar consoles!).
Re:Hell Yah (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Lynx games & resources (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Lynx games & resources (Score:2)
Thanks I'll check them out.
But stay away from Hydra and Batman Returns; big stinkers there
Too late. But thanks anyhow.
You might also try GameDude [gamedude.com]; you can buy & sell cartridges from old systems through them, and they're in California, so shipping to BC should be fairly quick. Haven't done business with them in a while, but they were easy to deal with.
I used to go there it's like an hours drive from where I live and I don't drive.
Thanks for all the links
I really cannot see it being "take anywhere". (Score:4, Funny)
Original? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Original? (Score:2)
Re:Original? (Score:5, Informative)
It got split into 2 seperate entities.
Atari. (Home Entertainment)
Atari Games (Arcade Entertainment)
Warner Communications sold Atari to JTS i think, which sold it to Hasbro Interactive which Hasbro sold off to Infogrames of France.
Warner Spun off Atari games as a subsiderary of them. Warner sold the Division to Midway.
So that's why there is a little confusinon here.
Hope this clears this up.
Re:Original? (Score:2)
So which Atari is this and who owns them?
Re:Original? (Score:3, Informative)
The home entertainment division, which is the only Atari left. It was sold to Infogrames a while back, and since Infogrames is in the story, that's the division involved.
Midway's arcade division shut down months ago (a few months after the Williams pinball division got axed), so for all intents and purposes Atari Games (the arcade division) is dead. Midway, the home entertainment division, is still alive and kicking.
I'm not sure how the intellectual property is all handled, since Infogrames has been putting out PC ports of old arcade games under the Atari brand. Seems like Midway might be able to do the same with old Atari games.
But, then again, Midway needs profitability at this point... putting out old titles seems like wonderful ideas, I just so rarely see it actually result in profits.
Though, personally, I wish I had picked up more Infocom Treasures collections... I only got the first one released for the Mac, and there were one or two after that. Then there were a few that never made it far enough to get ported... (sigh)
Re:Original? (Score:2, Funny)
But it's so simple:
Phase 1: Release old video game
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: Profit!
Re:Original? (Score:2)
I think infogrames owns Atari home entertainment now. I just got Transworld Surf for the ps2 which is published by infogrames, but throws up an Atari splash screen at the start.
Re:Original? (Score:2)
In related news.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:In related news.... (Score:2)
Re:In related news.... (Score:2)
"In a shock announcement in reply to Sony's announcement Microsoft said they would be giving away a free X-Box with each copy of Windows XP Gaming Edition, the bundle value priced at $399.95."
-sni
this would make the teenager I used to be drool... (Score:2)
think about getting richer !
it's the same with MAME or P2P to get
records from the 80's : my purchasing power
has increased by millions, well beyond
my wildest dreams of the time !
10's of consoles and computers for a few bucks,
thousands of games and weeks of pop music...
funny how a 1981 Porsche in good shape
still costs a lot...
(think Risky Business here)
Mega Joy 2 (Score:4, Informative)
Mega Joy 2 is PAL Only (Score:2)
-Steve
Re:Mega Joy 2 (Score:2, Informative)
OTOH, there is already a licensed Activision one which I see now and then at Toys-R-Us and Walmart, and that one is based on the 2600 (and includes Pitfall, among others.) In fact, it's from the same Jakks subsidiary, Toymax:
http://www.toymax.com/ToyCentral/EL/10in1.htm [toymax.com]
As I understand it, it's not actually a complete clone of the 2600, just enough to get those specific games working (and apparently the Atari-licensed ones in the new version as well.)
Cool. (Score:2)
Atari 2600 schematics and details (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Atari 2600 schematics and details (Score:5, Informative)
Atari 2600 Schematics - NTSC [atariage.com]
Atari 2600 Schematics - PAL [atariage.com]
As for details of its construction and roms, there are quite a few knowledgable people who visit our message boards [atariage.com], and they can probably answer any specific questions you have.
Re:Atari 2600 schematics and details (Score:2)
It would be tough to emulate the quirks of Stella without knowledge of the exact circuitry it used (the details of which are probably lost to history), but for a limited subset of games such as this, you could do testing to make sure all the games work. Emulating Stella is the most complex part of any software Atari 2600 emulator.
One thing missing... (Score:3, Interesting)
That said, it's still cool.
Genesis pads work in VCS (Score:2)
Both joysticks for my 2600 are pretty much dead
Joypads designed for the Sega Genesis console will work in an Atari 2600 console.
Re:Genesis pads work in VCS (Score:2)
A few years ago I wrote a game for the Atari 8-bit computer [newbreedsoftware.com] (400/800/XL/XE) which can take advantage of the two buttons the Atari can easily read off a Genesis controller.
I actually ported it [newbreedsoftware.com] to Linux/Windows.
Re:One thing missing... (Score:2)
Sad really (Score:4, Informative)
Atari used to be a great systems manufacturer as well as a gaming company. Their ST line was very good and could compete with the Amiga in it's days. Their STacy an STBook were great portables where the STBook was way better then what any company could offer as a portable. It took years for the industrie to reach the same kind of portability as the STBook offered.
Alas, Atari is no more. The companies diverse owners just broke it into little parts and sold them to the highest bidders.. There are few companies which have had a change of ownership so frequently as Atari has.
Take a look at http://www.atari-history.com for some background information on Atari and it's products
Re:Sad really (Score:2, Insightful)
It's just a shame the Amiga and Atari ST spent so much time fighting eachother, instead of the real enemy, the PC, which was so incredibly inferior to either at the time.
Re:Sad really (Score:4, Funny)
Amiga was really an Atari (Score:2)
The Amiga was MUCH more impressive to me. I still want to get a 500 or 1000 one of these days.
One of the things not many people know is that the Amiga was actually designed by a lot of the same people who designed the 2600 and/or 400/800, and some of whom went on to design the Lynx.
They share a lot of the same nifty architecture. (Atari 800's "Display List Interrupt" was just the early version of Amiga's "Copper"... and the Atari Lynx has the same feature, though I don't know if it has a specific name)
Atari ST was pretty much Tramiel's idea which he brought over when he moved from Commodore to Atari.
Weird, no?
Re:Amiga was really an Atari (Score:2)
write me man - I can help you there.
Re:Sad really (Score:2)
Everyone's forgetting the STe, which had most of those things (i.e. Stereo sound with a DSP for hardware playback, blitter, etc).
So from an avid ST owner what does it offer over the Amiga? Well there's a real, DOS compatible file system for a start. The Amiga didn't have directories on it's floppys, so we would laugh as the Amiga owner stuck in a disk full of mods and waited for 40 seconds while it scanned the disk to build the dir tree. By that time we were already rocking
STs were (IMHO) also more reliable that Amigas too...there was a joke going round I remember - "What's the difference between an Amiga and a Boeing?" - "A Boeing can only crash the once".
And STs looked better. Anyway, I got bored of these arguments 10 years ago
Re:Sad really (Score:2)
Oh yeah, and I think you could actually use the ST MIDI ports for MIDI too
Re:Sad really (Score:2)
(Funny, though, how GEM could run on both big- and little-endian systems way back in the mid-80's.)
Re:Sad really (Score:2, Insightful)
JUST LIVES ON ATARI'S FAME? Infogrames has been around and making bloody great games for nearly 20 years! I had Infogrames games on my old Amstrad CPC464, back in 1986-89!
I smell a troll...
Re:Sad really (Score:2)
FWIW, I don't think anybody in the States had even heard of them until a couple of years or so ago. (The first I'd ever heard of them was some DMCA-related bullying on their part that had been posted to /. ...my initial reaction was "Info-who?") I even spent a few years in Europe in the mid-80s, and don't recall hearing of them then. (Then again, I had a TI-99/4A and an Apple IIe at home and DoDDS put various Atari computers in its schools (though they started buying Apple IIGS systems in '87 or '88). If they weren't publishing for those systems, I wouldn't have had any use for them.)
Re:Sad really (Score:2)
FWIW, I don't think anybody in the States had even heard of them until a couple of years or so ago.
So by "anybody in the States," you mean "you," I think.
Infogrames published Alone in the Dark back in 1993, which was one of the first games I played on an old 386. That's a little longer than a couple of years ago, as old as it makes me feel to say that. I know I can't be the only person who remembers Alone in the Dark, for crying out loud.
It's NOT an Atari 2600 -- don't be confused (Score:5, Informative)
(Just to clear up the comments about "wish it had a cartridge slot).
-marc
Portable? (Score:3, Insightful)
Just imagine it, sitting on the train, and people start hearing the classic Asteroids noises coming from your handheld.
Within minutes everyone will want a go. Nostalgia at it's best!
Re:Portable? (Score:3, Insightful)
You could probably put a few megs of ROM in it and preload it with just about every Atari game out there.
The only problems I see are:
- getting permissions to package the ROM's
- you'd not want to do it the above way because once you sold one, there is no reason for someone to come back and buy more games from you. So that means some sort of media to swap games in and out, which means more cost.
Re:Portable? (Score:2)
Portable? I think not (Score:5, Informative)
There is a whole site dedicated to Atari 2600 portable conversion projects [classicgaming.com] that has been discussed in this [slashdot.org] and repeated in this [slashdot.org] Slashdot article.
Re:Portable? I think not (Score:2, Informative)
To some, the Nomad is STILL the best handheld system ever released, because of the varied and deep selection of games.
Maybe I'm karma-whoring
Re:Portable? I think not (Score:2)
That's not a Sega Game Gear, it's a Nomad. The Game Gear was an original system based off Sega's Master System hardware but with a better graphics subsystem (more colors). The Nomad was a complete Sega Mega Drive (Genesis in the US) compressed into a handheld console. It played the original Genesis cartridges without any modification, giving it a library of hundreds of games right at its day of release.
I was going to correct him until I saw your post. Nice to see that somebody else realized his mistake. However, it is sad to see that this guy converted a Sega Nomad and not a Game Gear. The Nomad really was one of the best portables I've ever played. I purchased one new for $150 after the first christmas they were out, and sold my Game Gear the next day. I already had a Genesis and 4 times as many games for it as my Game Gear. Plus, the Nomad used the same power adapter and RF adapter that the Genesis used, and included a second controller port (really only useful when hooked up to the TV as the built-in screen wasn't meant for two people to view it) so I didn't have to buy any extra peripherals. The only complaint I ever had about the thing was the horrible battery life. I think the most I ever got from the thing was like 3 hours on a set of batteries. This is of course because of the wonderful color, back-lit screen in the Nomad. And despite what others [nintendo.com] may think, I would never have traded off that great screen for better battery life.
That said, I still can't believe this guy hacked up a Nomad to build this thing. The Nomad is a relatively rare piece of hardware and can still command a decent price. I sold mine a couple of years ago for ~$100. That's not much depreciation for the video game world. Then again, mine was still in pristine condition, complete with orgianl packaging, including twist ties and plastic bags, and the original receipt of purchase. I take care of my stuff. But I digress...
In fact, I'm not even sure what the purpose of this post was...
Re:Portable? I think not (Score:2)
Now if only Infogrames or JAKKS would hire this guy, we'd have a REAL retro system to stick in our pockets.
(Of course, I've got Stella [atari.org] on my Zaurus [myzaurus.com], but it's not quite the same.)
What, again? (Score:3, Interesting)
Why can't I have one with _ALL_ the commercially released games? Connected to some compactflash card or whatever? Think about how much space your old atari carts are taking up. And those 5 million E.T. carts in the landfill.
Same goes for NES, SNES, SMS, Genesis, and PCE and I'm set for life.
Sorry, it's late/early and I'm rambling.
Re:What, again? (Score:2)
What would really be cool.. (Score:2, Interesting)
Thinkgeek (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Thinkgeek (Score:2)
Exept they would charge $29.99 for it. :-)
Atari haiku. (Score:2)
Oh how I miss those arcades.
Now bring back pinball!
Proof for MAME Critics (Score:2)
Re:Proof for MAME Critics (Score:2)
And for those of you who can't wait... (Score:2)
Just go to 9the Tee [9thtee.com] and look at their Arcade Video Game System - complete with two controllers, a light gun, and 76 built-in games. $36.95 Sure, it won't fit in your pocket, but still...
I bought several in Taiwan (Score:2)
I bought a bunch back to the states for Christmas. It was a VERY cheap way to entertain my entire family. My mom has become a Tetris freak, challenging all comers to head to head matches.
A C64 Version would be cool (Score:2, Interesting)
A C64 version would be cool though, it'd actually be an improvement over the original as we wouldn't have to wait for the loading time (unless we want to lisiten to the often groovy loading music (Ocean) or pretend we're being interrogated by watching a Mutant Camels loader.
Please, please don't brain wash me MR. Torturer...
Re:A C64 Version would be cool (Score:2, Informative)
Hey, that one was made ages ago: Commodore Executive 64 (SX64/DX64). =)
(Though neither had Datassette port, and I'm not sure about cartridge support - but on C64, floppy loading times were never Utterly Horrible (especially with disk turbo), even if they're slow by today's standards...)
(Oh, and getting a SX64/DX64 is a bit hard. An used laptop, a Linux install and VICE would probably be cheaper =)
I've already seen this on the market (Score:2)
*shrug*
e.
I remember seeing an NES one. (Score:2, Interesting)
Difference: 100 some odd more games.
It is also ~$60 or something like that.
I saw it on QVC a few months ago, and it may have been on HSN. I wonder how easy it would be to turn one into a portable. (since its in seeming wide availability, and is small...)
Oh, back on topic, Pic of the "portable" atari: http://www.qvc.com/img/E/41/E29241.jpg
Trademark City (Score:2, Funny)
Combat... (Score:2)
Why is this being covered? (Score:2)
Adventure? (Score:2)
Re:Adventure? (Score:2)
It's also still one of my all-time favorite games on the 2600. The bat just PISSES me off in games 2 and 3.
One of these days I'm going to make a proper Adventure update/clone for Linux/Windows/MacOS.
(Thank you, Sam Lantinga [libsdl.org]!)
Re:Atari Joysticks (Score:2)
Wico joysticks r00l (Score:2)
Re:Wico joysticks r00l (Score:2)
Re:Atari Joysticks (Score:2)
Krylons? The evil overlords of paint?
At any rate, while the Atari 2600 joysticks were nearly indestructible, they weren't my favorite. The best joystick ever invented (and I've yet to find it's equal anywhere in the land of PC or console) was the Epyx 500XJ. Ergonomic, gave solid feedback with it's switches and was durable too.
Re:Atari Joysticks (Score:2)
Re:Atari Joysticks (Score:2)
I have a pair of NES 500XJ's as well, but for the real nostalgia-inducing times, you really have to use the original, boxy NES joypads (ergonomics? what's that?).
God, I miss Epyx. So many afternoons spent after school playing their games.... [sigh]
~Philly
Re:Atari Joysticks (Score:2)
Finding Atari Joysticks (Score:2)
You can ususally track them down on eBay or via google.
A Place to buy new 2600 Joysticks! (Score:2)
Re:The point being? (Score:5, Insightful)
Who on earth wants to play atari 2600 games?
Think of it this way..
Playing atari games is kinda like bringing back good memories really cheaply.. hell if it comes with pit-fall i'd pay 20 bux to be able to plug into an rca jack anywhere and play.. it's fun..
Think if it this way..
Its the same thing as wanting or going back to an old gf(or bf i suppose.. dunno not, gay) ya know what your getting, when your getting, know where and how to hit all the right buttons and since you've played it alot before you can just shut it off when your done
Re:The point being? (Score:2)
Yeah, the toymax unit I mentioned earlier comes with 10 activision games, one of which is pitfall. You may find it for $20, maybe even less.
Re:The point being? (Score:2)
Replayability? (Score:5, Insightful)
Plot: Do you complain when your game of checkers doesn't have any love interests in it?
Replayability: the name of the game with these old Atari games. You never really beat them- you're mostly competing against yourself.
Shelflife: Witness the plethora of 2600 emulators out there. Geez.
Non-repetitive gameplay: See "plot", above. What are you looking for, final fantasy?
Old Atari games may not have beautiful, amazing graphics, but many of them are unbeatable in the arena of actual gameplay.
Re:Replayability? (Score:4, Interesting)
Agreed. Now if only Nintendo would release an NES controller with the original Donkey Kong and other Game and Watch remakes built in.
Or, a similar system to this Atari deal, but with Commodore 64 titles built in. Oh to play Raid Over Moscow or the original ChopLifter 2 (I know, I can get an emulator to do it all, but it's just not the same... it feels hollow)
Re:Replayability? (Score:2)
A friend of mine bought this and likes his a lot, although he's not much of a gamer. The Reg mentions them selling for ten pounds in the UK; I think my friend says his was about ~$20.
It seems you can't buy them any more, of course. There are none listed on eBay, and googling for them some time back didn't turn up anything, so I assume Nintendo burned down the factory producing them, and seeded the ground with salt.
Re:Replayability? (Score:2)
A friend of mine bought this and likes his a lot, although he's not much of a gamer. The Reg mentions them selling for ten pounds in the UK; I think my friend says his was about ~$20.
It seems you can't buy them any more, of course. There are none listed on eBay, and googling for them some time back didn't turn up anything, so I assume Nintendo burned down the factory producing them, and seeded the ground with salt.
Quick GOOGLE result for "Meja Joy"
http://www.paramountzone.com/megajoy.htm [paramountzone.com]
http://www.gadgets.co.uk/megajoy2.html [gadgets.co.uk]
Downside is this blurb - "(This product is not designed to work in the USA or any other country using the NTSC system.)" Sorry, unless you've got a PAL TV set or got a PAL converter (or an old Amiga monitor that can display a PAL signal [hint hint]) I guess you cannot use it.
Here's a site with a PAL > NTSC converter for $59
http://www.xbox-online.net/flash/x6c.htm [xbox-online.net]
(Sorry about it being on a BugBoX website, still at the moment it is the cheapest I've found)
Another note - DAMN! They have MAPPY on it. I love that cute mouse being chased around by adorable kittens with a delightful tune in the background as they rebound off trampolines to each level.
One more thing Jackie Chan!
(Found this in the search)
http://www.protectv.com/ [protectv.com]
Q. How does PROTECTV work?
A. PROTECTV works through the captioning that runs through television programming, videos, and DVD's. PROTECTV works with both the audio as well as the written captions that are available. Every time an offensive word is spoken it is compared to a dictionary of over 400 words and phrases and if the word or phrase matches, it is deleted from the soundtrack and captioning. The viewer will experience a momentary gap in the audio and for viewers reading the captions, the undesirable written word is replaced by XXXX's.
(Goes into old lady Jewish mode)
"Go ahead... discuss."
Re:Replayability? (Score:2)
That still wouldn't work as it doesn't put out a proper 29.97 fps NTSC signal...it's some 25 fps variant that I think is used in some South American countries. It converts the color information to something resembling NTSC (they don't say if it uses 3.58 MHz or 4.43 (?) MHz color burst), but the framerate is unaltered.
That said, if you have a video-capture or TV-tuner card in your computer, there's a fair chance you can kick it into PAL mode. The machine on which I'm typing this has a generic four-port Bt878-based capture card; playing with one of the unused ports in GraphEdit, the property page for the capture filter had a couple of options for NTSC, maybe a dozen for PAL, and a few for SECAM. IIRC, the All-In-Wonder Radeon in my home system has some similar options.
Re:Replayability? (Score:2)
If you're looking for "Final Fantasy," you're looking in the wrong place. I've played through "Final Fantasy" 3 times now; it seems very repetitive to me.
I name one. (Score:2, Interesting)
More (screenshots etc) here:
http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html
Re:The point being? (Score:2, Insightful)
How about parents with younger children, who don't want to spend much on something that will probably get broken fairly quickly.
It retricts the kids to playing it on the TV which allows for greater control over it's usage than say a GameBoy which they can sit anywhere out of sight with.
The games relied on gameplay rather than complicated plots, much easier for a younger child to master, take 2 young children. Explain to one how to play space invaders, try and explain to the other how to organise the members of thier team in Dungeon Siege and the benefits of +x modifiers and don't forget to keep the 4 or 5 health bars on the left of the screen up...
Just because you do not play with duplo bricks, it does not mean there is no market for such a product.
Re:Lost youth.... (Score:2)
Re:Lost youth.... (Score:2)
This was $100 Canadian, in the late 70s.
Re:Innovative.. (Score:2)
I works some of the time but is a little bit flakey. It has tennis, squash, hockey and breakout.
For a really authentic time I can even tape some coloured cellophane to the screen to get coloured bricks in breakout
heh
John
Re:Hmm cool (Score:2)
... you ment the game pad, though if they have a hit this X-mas with it, the stocks currently at a good price to.
The debate, game for $20, share of stock for $17
Re:Your attitude sucks (Score:2)
??? so my debate on buying the product or investing in the company is evil because I pay for software and invest in that software model, maybe you should re-read what I stated.
Atari is getting royalties of of this, and it was the attempt to live off of the 2600 and not investing in new console technology that killed them the first time
btw. at $20 I will be buying one
The software model I use is, you buy our instrument, it acts as your software key, so we give you the latest software (of course our hardware 'keys' are between $5K and $200K depending on model).
Re:Atari makes nice arcade machines (Score:2)
Atari Games was a different company than Atari Corp. They had no relation at all.
Re:Atari makes nice arcade machines (Score:2)
Well, not quite "not at all." I mean, STUN Runner was licensed by Atari Games and released for Atari Corp's "Atari Lynx" handheld, for example.
Re:Who will buy it? (Score:2, Insightful)
Those who remember coming home from school and ignoring our homework to see how many times we could flip Asteroids before supper.
Those who remember having to mow two lawns to afford to buy Missile Command
Those who despise today's multi-function "game controllers" and long for the day of a one button joystick
Those who now have the cash to buy all the games they could never afford as kids.
That, IMHO, is who will buy it.
Re:What a ripoff! (Score:2)
But hey, you have my personal permission (not that it has any legal standing) to play all the Wall Ball [atarihq.com] you want.
Re:why not 5200? (Score:2)
I'd like to see an 800/XL/XE portable.
Atari800 [atari.org] on my Zaurus [myzaurus.com] will suffice for now.
(Ooh, or maybe a 7800!)
Re:just 10?? (Score:2)
Re:How to play downloaded ROMs on actual 2600 syst (Score:2)
Of course, youi'd have to have a II+ kicking around...