Nintendo Announces new Zelda, Mario & Metroid 260
MonkeyBot writes "Nintendo has posted news from the E3 convention concerning big name titles and their release dates. The new Metroids for the Cube and GBA, Legend of Zelda for the Cube, and a new Mario Game for the Cube are just a few of the titles for which new information is available. It'll be just like I'm a kid again, but with better graphics (and beer)!"
Metroid on GBA!! (Score:2)
... for a brief moment... all is right in the world.
Re:Metroid on GBA!! (Score:2)
now nearly every GBA game is awesome and worth countless hours under a well positioned lamp
Re:Metroid on GBA!! (Score:2)
While Metroid Prime for the 'Cube reminds me of a PC FPS, the GBA incarnation of Metroid looks like the best of classic side-scrolling action, with some tweaks to make it even better.
Re-living my childhood (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Re-living my childhood (Score:1, Flamebait)
And this is why I like my Sega Dreamcast. Nintendo just seems to take the same old characters and putting them in new games that really aren't that groundbreaking or original. New Mario Battle game. New Pokemon game. New Zelda game. It's like Police Academy 5 -- just not worth seeing the same thing over again (ok, bad example, but you get what I mean).
Nintendo needs to come up with something new if they hope to finish #2 ahead of X-Box.
You are nuts right? (Score:2, Interesting)
I have always found that Nintendo always strove for innovation - although that really bit them in the ass a few times *cough* *VirtuaBoy* *cough*
In any case, what did Sega ever put out that was that original?
Virtua Fighter series... Sonic 1... I can't think of more.
Just because the Nintendo games star the same characters, it doesn't mean they don't innovate - Mario64 was nothing like other platform/adventure games of the time. Pikmin was very unique. Playing Earthbound was rather like an interesting drug trip at times.
I could go on and on (as raving fanboys tend to do - for the record, I have/had a PSX, many PC games, gbc, gba, sega genesis, nintendo, sega master system, atari, etc - so I am more of a video game fanboy - I just really like Nintendo games
Re:You are nuts right? (Score:2)
I don't mean in any way to say that Nintendo *isn't* innovative, but credit where credit is due.
Re:You are nuts right? (Score:2)
Virtua Tennis [sega.com] — the first tennis game that non-fans could enjoy
Crazy Taxi [hotgames.com] — also unlike any other game... jumping, drifting cars... extreme obstacle courses
Re:You are nuts right? (Score:2)
Errrm, Mario Tennis [mariotennis.com] preceded it.
Re:You are nuts right? (Score:2)
Mario RPG Rocked (Score:1)
Holy shit, i'm such a fanboy
Re:Mario RPG Rocked (Score:2)
The brilliant thing about Paper Mario was how much depth the game had relative to how complicated it was--there was more strategy in defeating a monster than in any post-VI Final Fantasy game, yet the game was so much simpler. Actually, there was a whole lot of brilliant things about Paper Mario--much better than Mario RPG.
Re:Mario RPG Rocked (Score:2)
Gameplay was okay, but I thought the depth of the game was less than stellar. Just my opinion.
However... I was playing Luigi's Mansion on my brother's 'Cube and was totally sucked in! Geez that game's addictive!!! (yeah, and it's cutsey, I know)
I'm playing MOrrowind right now (Score:3, Funny)
I just can't stop. It's not fair. Don't buy it, you will never stop playing.
I never owned an N64 (no RPG's, bought a PSX) and regretted it - I love RPG's but I prefer the PC ones myself. Unfortunately, the console RPG's tend to be of the Fight/Level/Talk/Repeat, although it is nice when somebody introduces some new elements - my favourite console rpgs I played recently were Lufia 2 and Golden Sun (a bit generic and short, but the puzzles were ok, if a bit easy). But now I just play Morrowind.
Damn Morrowind has stolen my life. And I gave up DAoC to get into less addictive games. Oh well.
Re:Re-living my childhood (Score:2)
Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS (Score:2)
GBA devkit for $300 at LikSang (Score:2)
Anybody want to pool money for a GCN development kit??? ;)
Too expensive. You can get a pretty good set of GBA development hardware for under $300 at Lik Sang. Given that you probably already have a Windows computer (and if you don't, get one for $1000 at dell.com), I'll break down what else you need: $110 for a GBA with a pre-installed Afterburner internal light [lik-sang.com], $40 for an MBV2 cable [lik-sang.com] to test out small (< 128 KB) programs, $100 for a flash cartridge and linker [lik-sang.com], and in the neighborhood of $30 for S&H from Hong Kong via EMS Speedpost. While you're saving up, you can learn the basics with Devkit Advance [io.com] (GCC hosted on Windows or Linux and targeted for GBA) and VisualBoyAdvance [emuhq.com] (emulates the GBA's runtime environment).
Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS (Score:2)
There's going to be a new Super Metroid style Metroid for GBA coming out in the next year.
A new 2D Castlevanaia was one of the better release titles for GBA, I highly reccomend it.
They're coming out with a port of Yoshi's Island.
I agree about Kid Icarus and Life Force, though. Also it would be mad rad if Capcom would release Megaman 2, 3, X, and X2 for GBA.
And Super Streetfighter, my god, that game Ruled. but I guess there wouldn't be enough buttons.
The real question is if Square could release FFIV, FFVI, Secret of Mana, and Chrono Trigger for the GBA. I would be *first* in line for any of those titles, especially CT.
Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS (Score:2)
Super street fighter II is on gba, and I can tell you it's bloody great. Much better than the crappy SNES versions, plays like arcade, but with a few new levels (ken's is cool, guile's is a bit shite)... Highly reccommended.
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Re:Re-living my childhood - KID ICARUS (Score:2)
I remember wall jumping (the door wall ball unball warp trick) in Metroid to get the varia early, or killing lots of things to get the strength arrows faster in KID ICARUS! All neat little tweaks to twink out earlier.
EGG PLANT WIZARDS! AHAHAHAAAAAAAAA! Those freaks. The best. You had to find the hospital, and you best have a map. Remember you could negotiate the merchants in KID ICARUS with the second controller? Remember the map, torch and pencil? hehehe. The barrels, potions and feathers?
Rememeber the dungeon music?
Do deet do deet do deet do deet do deet;
Doweeey Dooowey dooooowey dewie dewie dewie dewie dewie doooo doooooooooo.
Doweeey Dooowey dooooowey dewie dewie dewie dewie dewie doooo doooooooooo.
Dooo, doo! doo... doooooooooo.
Dooo, doo! doo... doooooooooo.
Dooooooooo woooooo woooo woooooooooo!
Dooooooooo woooooo woooo woooooooooo!
hehehe. I can hum it to date.
Zelda II was my fav, and the SNES Zelda was awesome. I got so good at Zelda II, well, it was absurd.
Those games had room for mastery. Few games do today.
I tried Max Payne. I beat it. No replay value, IMHO. It was good, the best part was his grumpy dialogue in between stuff.
" ALARM! ALARM! " - Chinese Guards in HITMAN
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Re:Re-living my childhood (Score:2)
The GameCube Metroid is going to be first person, so it will actually be a completely different game. can Nintendo make a console first person shooter that is heavily exploration and power-up based work? We'll see. But it won't be "the same" as the earlier games.
The Gameboy advance seems to be all about 8 and 16-bit nostalgia. The new games play remarkably like old ones, and there are many re-issues. The fact that it is so widely successful (the fastest selling video game system of all time,) I think is testament to the fact that, despite the technology, 2D sidescrollers are not dead. People still want them, and only Nintendo is providing.
Augmented Metroid vs. Quake (Score:1)
Re:Augmented Metroid vs. Quake (Score:2)
.anacron
But where is (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:But where is (Score:1, Funny)
Re:But where is (Score:2)
Re:But where is (Score:2)
Re:But where is (Score:2)
-Paul Komarek
Re:But where is (Score:3, Informative)
Re:But where is (Score:2)
I'm willing to wait for Nintendo. Just like I'm waiting for DVD region encoding to (legally) die before I by a DVD player.
-Paul Komarek
MarioKart Temple!!! w00t another notch! (Score:2)
I am obligated to post [digitalsushi.com] a link [digitalsushi.com] to the 7 year old 14 year old fanboy-created website [digitalsushi.com] from 1995. And given that its 7 years old, dont expect the forms to work!
HEY! Is anyone here young enough that they dont get the website I am spoofing???
Every Mario Kart release has had bugs (Score:2)
Mario Cart? Which IMHO is the best racing game ever!
Except for the dozens of design and implementation bugs [everything2.com] in the Mario Kart games. Super Circuit feels the most stable.
Re:But where is (Score:2)
Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:2, Funny)
And it helped develop 'hand-eye' coordination. Of course, then again, so does masturbation...
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:3, Insightful)
Mario 64 was cool, but if they made a 2D Mario as well, would kids really think it was lame?
mark
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:2)
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:2)
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:2, Interesting)
Metroid Prime for the GameCube is 3D.
Are we doomed to never having 2D games again?
No. Metroid Fusion for the Gameboy Advance is 2D. The Gameboy Advance is where it's at for 2D games currently.
Shigeru Miyamoto has an intresting response when asked about 2D vs 3D in this interview at GameSpot UK [gamespot.co.uk].
Re:3D is cheap... (Score:2)
1.) Design Models
2.) Design skeletal deformation scripts. (walk, run, jump, duck, roll)
3.) Write the game code.
4.) release the game title.
and if you want it to run on another system
5.) port the game code, and patch the few dissimilar graphics functions between machines.
It used to be that to build a game you had to:
1.) design models
2.) design skeletal deformations for all movements.
3.) render all movements and make dib sequences or some other indexed pre-rendered graphics sequences.
4.) write your own scene renderer for whatever format your game will follow.
5.) work out all the ugly crap that doesn't flow well.
6.) patch a cruddy game engine on top of your game 'cause your budget is now gone.
Then you had to go and trash everything if you wanted to do things better.
Now the market is flooded with people wanting you to use their 3D engine. They write all the graphics stuff and tweak it for library xyz which in turn is tweaked to run really well on xyz chip. Leaves the game developers free to design and build a better game.
Re:GBA- Chopped liver? (Score:2)
Still, a majority of games are 3D... I wonder if that trend will continue, or if there will be a resurge in 2D popularity once 3D has reached its "limits"? I could imagine it being analogous to painting. Ever since things could captured perfectly as photos, there has been an increase in abstract paintings. Could be an interesting thing.
mark
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:2)
from the metroid article:
Traverse a crippled spaceship and explore the vast worlds of Tallon IV in an all-new first-person perspective!
how the FUCK are you going to play metroid in first-person?!
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:2)
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:2)
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:2)
metroid is the game where you have jump boots and can become a sticky ball. if you can't see what is behind you 2D style the gameplay and mindset will entirely change.
this will just be another 3d FPS pile of crap.
Re:Bunch of 'ol fogies at Nintendo (Score:2)
Usually I'm looking at porn or something else such that I don't have time to stare at my penis, but if it gets you off....
YES! (Score:3)
I KNEW NIntendo wouldnt' let me down! Now if only their business tactics record wasn't for shame...
Re:YES! (Score:2)
As opposed to Sony & Microsoft?
Re:YES! (Score:3)
I'm definitely going to pick up the GBA Metroid when that comes out. I hope a GBA Zelda is in the works, even though there's multiple GBC Zelda's, a full-fledged game like the SNES version would be perfect.
Re:YES! (Score:2, Informative)
You'll find Miyamoto demonstrating one here [ign.com]. It's multiplayer, even.
--Jeremy
Re:YES! (Score:2, Informative)
This post sponsored by Ninja Burger [ninjaburger.com].
"Please do not tip the Ninjas."
Re:YES! (Score:3, Informative)
Cause that might just hit the spot.
Re:YES! (Score:2)
Now all I need is a floodlight or someone to install an afterburner for me cheap.
Poor Mario! (Score:3, Funny)
Waiting to get the girl again?
Mario sets off on his greatest adventure yet
No, that would happen if he arrived on a pollution-free island and got to do some much deserved resting and relaxing there with Princess Peach.
Re:Poor Mario! (Score:2)
My guess is that Nintendo called Luigi in to clear out that mansion at the last minute because Mario was still hungover from his rockin' vacation. The time for plumbin' with Peach is over buddy, it's time to get to adventurin'!
Get Your Past On (Score:1, Insightful)
New Nintendo strategy? (Score:2, Insightful)
For example:
1) Zelda is to be cel-shaded.
2) Metroid will be a FPS.
3) And unconfirmed rumors say that Mario Sunshine will be designed for 3dglasses, thats why the screenshots seem so odd.
Nintendo must be trying to break their image of being totally conventional and change resisting.
Re:New Nintendo strategy? (Score:2)
The reason the pictures are 'odd' is because they are photographs from projectors. I wouldn't take the glasses rumor too seriously.
As for Nintendo 'using a new strategy of being innovative...', why is this a new strategy for Nintendo? Have you been paying attention to Nintendo's evolution? Look at the SNES controller, then look at the N64 controller, then look at the GC controller... notice something? They'z a little bit different. Look at the Playstation controller, then the PS2 controller... or look at the XBOX controller that wants to be a Dreamcast controller.
What about the games? Look at how radically different the Mario games are from each other. Look at how Nintendo added the Super FX chip in Star Fox just to give gamers a new experience. Bah Im not gonna go on anymore, I think my point stands.
The reason that Nintendo has got a strong following is because you can always buy a Nintendo product and get something that totally blows your mind. Too bad Sony and MS haven't figured that out yet.
Not Innovative (Score:2)
And if you don't think that this is daring, witness then sound and fury directed at Nintendo for making Metroid an FPS and Zelda cell-shaded. They are risking things people know and love and trying to push them in directions that, while not totally new, are new for these particular products.
Not enough games (Score:1)
THe gamecube price just dropped as well (luckily I bought my GC less than 30 days ago and got the difference back from the store I bought it at
Could we have linked to some articles with pictures though? Or am I missing a link on the page?
I heard (on Penny Arcade, I think) that there was supposed to be some big surprise announcement - I don't see anything mentioned here though...
Trailers are here!! (Score:1, Informative)
Metroid. (Insane)
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/conte nts/gamepa ge/gamecontent/images/e3/metroid_prime/e3_metroidp rime_gcn_trailer.wmv asd sda asd dasasd
Zelda. (Cel-da? SWEET JESUS it looks great!) asd sda asd dasasd
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/contents/game pa ge/gamecontent/images/e3/zelda-gcn/e3_zelda_gcn_tr ailer.wmv
Mario Sunshine. Wow asd sda asd dasasd
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/contents/gam
Wario asd sda asd dasasd
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/contents/gam
Star Fox asd sda asd dasasd
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/contents/game pa ge/gamecontent/images/e3/starfox_adventures/e3_sta rfoxadv_gcn_trailer.wmv
Metroid Fusion (GBA - Oh.. my... f'ing .. god! 2d SNES love baby!)
http://media.nintendo.com/nintendo/content s/gamepa ge/gamecontent/images/e3/metroid_fusion/e3_metroid fusion_agb_mov01.wmv
Zelda GBA (4 player CO-OP multiplayer! INSANE. - Screenshots only)
http://www.nintendo.com/games/gamepage/screensh
Nintendo hands down has ended the console war with this lineup. Look at every single one of those. Infriggensane.
ugh... sorry guys. (Score:2, Informative)
Metroid [nintendo.com]
Zelda [nintendo.com]
Mario [nintendo.com]
Wario [nintendo.com]
Star Fox [nintendo.com]
Metroid GBA [nintendo.com]
Zelda GBA Screenshots - Co-op Multiplayer! [nintendo.com]
...for a second there I thought this was 1 game... (Score:5, Funny)
...my next thought was - "wait, no, if they could pull off a combination Zelda/Mario/Metroid game, resolving the differences between the different gaming styles and envionments/back stories it'd be one of the most amazing narrative (gaming or otherwise) tricks ever accomplished!"
...my third thought was - "holy crap, if a movie is ever made out of this combo game/story it would be even less coherent than the Super Mario Bros. movie, and thus be terribly harmful to the developing thought processes of our nation's youth - Nintendo must be stopped!!"
...my fourth thought was - "maybe I should read the f***ing article, or at least the summary beneath the headline before posting my ever-so-important concerns".
...my fifth thought was "this is Slashdot, no one will notice."
...and my sixth and final thought was "I can't believe you read this far."
Re:...for a second there I thought this was 1 game (Score:3, Insightful)
basically every nintendo character ever made is in there.
Metroid!! (Score:1)
I hope even more they increase the quality of this Metroid (as graphics, fun and challenge) over
SuperMetroid
The New Zelda just like X-Files (Score:5, Funny)
The latest Legend of Zelda adventure begins with young Link living a peaceful life on a tiny island. One day, Link witnesses a huge, menacing bird that snatches Link's younger sister and flies away with her. Link follows in hot pursuit. His search for her sets in motion an epic adventure that will have Link sailing the high seas and searching for answers to the mystery behind her disappearance.
Checking out the game summary I can't help but think that Link is really Fox Mulder.
How Long? (Score:3, Funny)
Back in the day... (Score:1)
Not my childhood (Score:1, Troll)
No it won't. Game companies, Nintendo included, stopped making fun games long ago and instead concentrated on what eye candy with no substance. You can't tell me that you can seriously compare any N64 or Gamecube game to an old-school Nintendo or SNES game and say it has the same level of fun because of the playability or content. This is why I stopped buying consoles, today they're all eye candy and no fun (with the possible exception of the GBA, though that's a stretch).
What? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Not my childhood (Score:2)
Monkey Ball 2! (Score:4, Interesting)
Sega has the #1 sleeper hit for the gamecube right now.. Monkey Ball is by FAR the best game out for the system. It's got that cute-Nintendo-like-appeal. Extremely addicting. My buddies stop over and chuckle when I suggest we play Monkey Ball over Halo, GTA3, etc -- and then 5 hours later when we finish our last game of Monkey Target and can't hold our eyes open any more, it's time to put it away..
Re:Monkey Ball 2! (Score:2)
Cell-shaded Zelda (Score:2)
It does have a semi-cartoony look to it, but I don't think it detracts from the game. Previous Zelda games have had what I would consider "kiddie" looks to them. Even Ocarina of Time made link look more like a little kid than an elf. What's been great about the Zelda series is the game play, which is deep and engrossing.
Playing the new game, you quickly get caught up in it, and the cell-shaded look just works. It hasn't been overused enough yet to be cliche (although it's getting close), and it fits pretty well with the Zelda franchise. And, after seeing screen shots, you think I'm an idiot, I'd advise you to hold off on your judgement. The screen shots don't do it justice. Before I got my hands on the game, they weren't convicing me, either.
Re:Cell-shaded Zelda (Score:2)
Zelda 3 was a different link, but same age area. GB Zelda was right after it.
The Link of the N64 games was a kid, though I don't think they gave an exact age. For part of Ocarina of Time Link was an adult though (7 years older).
So, in short, Link looked like a kid because he was one.
Re:Cell-shaded Zelda (Score:2)
Product Placement in a Mario Bros. Game (Score:2)
If video game consoles were comic books.... (Score:4, Funny)
...Sega would be Image [imagecomics.com]: beautiful graphics time after time, but slow to realize that's not enough to keep them from crashing and burning.
...Sony would be Vertigo [dccomics.com]: late to the party, but chock-full of great stories with some truly radical, if not entirely beautiful, graphics.
...Microsoft would Dark Horse [darkhorse.com]: rather than creating anything great on their own, buy up everyone else's popular ideas and market the hell out of them.
Re:If video game consoles were comic books.... (Score:2)
Maybe I'm just a nutcase (as time goes on I feel more and more that way), but I'll take engaging story / gameplay over FX / graphics any day. I get a lot of heat because I don't play games like Soldier of Fortune. Give me an Atari 2600 over a GameCube anyday.
Gamespot Impressions (Score:3, Informative)
What you really want is the Gamespot impressions from guys who have actually played these games:
Impressions [gamespot.com]
Perhaps its best the Zelda comes out next year. More time for Metroid and Mario.
McFakie (Score:2)
Had Mario, Link, and Samus been in the initial wave of titles for the GC I think it probably would have sold even more units than it did. The classic Nintendo characters are franchises the XBox simply doesn't have and the playstation took several years to develop. I've played Metroid so many times I can hum the music to it on command. It disappointed me after getting my GC that some of the first games I had on my original Nintendo were going to take so long to get to it. The first Nintendo I got was the version with R.O.B and the light gun. From the get go I had Super Mario Brothers, Duck Hunt, and Gyroscope. Soon after I got Metroid and Kid Icarus which are two games I longed for on the N64 after I bought it off eBay. Zelda of course dominated a good deal of my time, I've got gold cartridge versions of both Zelda 1 and 2 lying around somewhere. I'm hoping these titles which have been in the works for a while turn out to be as entertaining as the originals. I thought Nintendo did a good job with Zelda 3 and Super Metroid on the SNES because for a while both games dominated my free time and cut into some of my sleep. While i would have hoped they came sooner I know three things I'm sticking on my wish list of nostalgic things.
who? (Score:2)
Coverage at Gamespot (Score:3, Informative)
Here are a few quick Gamespot coverage links. They contain much more information than the Nintendo links and provide screenshots.
Metroid Prime hands-on [gamespot.com]
Super Mario Sunshine hands-on [gamespot.com]
The Zelda title gamespace [gamespot.com]
Where the rubber hits the road (Score:2)
I hate to be a member of the XBox team. Imagine the XBox and the GameCube drag racing down the freeway, the XBox pretty impressed by its own top speed, when suddenly the Cube rolls down his window and says "Hey, buddy, how do get this thing out of second gear?" The Cube then laughs, peels out going from fourth to fifth, and smokes the poor XBox.
-Paul Komarek
Does Fanboy Dance (Score:2)
This is great news! I just today... today... bought a Gamecube and Super Smash Bros Melee. I just can't put it down. In fact, the only reason I'm on /. right now is because I have to eat dinner.
I haven't decided on Zelda yet, but from the looks of things Mario and Metroid are must-haves.
Now, somebody see about getting Bowser his own game.
An example of influence (Score:2)
I converted to Playstation when Sega and Nintendo began to fade. Zelda 64, in my opinion, sucked... but I am confident "ZeldaCube" could be pretty good. Will I buy a GameCube to play it? If it brings back the mystery of exploration (like Link to the Past did but 64 did not do as well), I just might actually.
I love my PS2... but I do miss good ole Nintendo games.
Mario Sunshine screenshots / videos (Score:2, Informative)
Personally I can't wait for Mario Sunshine.. Mario64 was easily one of the most entertaining games I've ever played and it can only get better from there
Lovecraft on a Gamecube - the horror! (Score:2)
Sounds Cthulhoid to me
Who says GameCube is just for kids
Now if only they'd do The Sims for the GameCube, my world would be complete!
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FUD like? (Score:2)
Rmemeber Space Ace? (Score:2, Interesting)
I like this approach to V/G design. Sacrificing realism for style is definitely something that adds to the replay value of a game. I hate to sound like a Nintendo worshipper, but I think they've hit the nail on the head with these 2.
And incedentally, if I mysteriously disappear for a few days when these games come out...
Tell my parents that I'm very very happy
Indeed! I agree completely! (Score:2, Insightful)
Beer certainly is one of the best parts of game playing. I'm sure it improves my aim on some games too.
Snowball's Chance in Hell. (Score:2)
Mario Sunshine
Zelda
Smash Bros. Melee
Resident Evil 0
Eternal Darkness (and Too Human later)
StarFox Adventures
etc
BlackGriffen
Re:ANY PORTS (Score:2)
Game titles that deal with Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, and Mario typically have great game play. If you ask me, $150 bucks is a small price to pay in order to play Shigeru Miyamoto's games
Moreover, the fact that Capcom is only developing new Resident Evil games for the GameCube is another exclusive bonus for Cube owners.
Re:Slammed with old news (Score:2)
Re:Slammed with old news (Score:2)
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Re:The new Metroid (Score:2)
Metroid looks to me like it will retain the atmostphere, but I maintain that the true thing of Nintendo games is that they are massive adventures that pull you in and wont let go. The atmosphere is crucial to the second-to-second experience, but IMHO, its the adventures, stories, and familiar characters that keep me coming back from more.
Call me a loser, but I really feel like I've accomplished a massive task when I finish a metroid or zelda game. Other huge games may have the atmosphere and flash down pat, but I rarely give a shit about the character and story. To me, thats the Nintendo Difference (well, and the polish. NOBODY polishes like Nintendo.)
I'm not sure Retro will fuck Metroid up. Remember, we've seen the action bits, but tons of the Metroid experience is about travelling, discovering, looking, etc. Details are thin, but this kind of experience looks to be preserved in Metroid Prime, even if it's not the kind of stuff you'd show in your 10 second vidcaps.
Re:Zelda... (Score:2)
You're assuming all games are "cheezy". I played Zelda for the adventure, intrigue and mystery. When I want to play a fun, comedic game I pull out Earthworm Jim or Super Mario 64. The Legend of Zelda doesn't fall into that category. I'm talking about a wonderful game series that got worse with every release. The first two Zelda games were wonderful adventures. Then the cheeze started to appear. If you never experienced the joy of originals first I suppose you might think the silly stuff was an essential element of the series.
This is just sad. I pity anyone who's developed a mindset that won't allow them to enjoy games like these. It's like saying that you don't/didn't like the muppets because they're all just stuffed animal puppets. It's *so* much more than that if you allow yourself to see it.
I actually like the Muppets. What I don't like is seeing a legend in gaming dragged through the mud. Here's an analogy: You're playing DOOM III, everything is dark and spooky and perfectly violent, and then you enter a room and are treated to a FMV sequence where a cheerful Barney the Dinosaur enters and hands you a vase full of yellow flowers, sings a song and then moves merrily on his way before you're allowed to play again. If this bothers you, would you consider yourself to have developed a mindset that doesn't allow you to enjoy the game? I think that any DOOM fan deserves pity if something like that wouldn't bother them.
Singing frogs just don't fit into the Legend of Zelda.