Atari's 30th Anniversary 402
Atarian writes "Atari was officially incorporated 30 years ago. While many thought Atari started the video game business, that was not correct, it was Magnavox and its Odyssey console designed by Ralph Baer that would be the first. Atari would be the company that would put videogames on the map right from the start back in 1972 with the release of PONG, its coin-op arcade machine first setup in Andy Capps Bar in California, the game was a smash hit and people begin lining up first thing in the morning at Andy Capps just to get inside and play games on this magic box with a TV inside. Atari would then release its VCS (Video Computer System aka The Atari 2600) and launch Atari from its meager $500 starter capital beginnings into a $2 billion dollars in sales monster in 1982. Atari would later fall to the wayside to be replaced by Nintendo, then Sega, and othes that followed. Atari is still around in a small way, and still keeping the name and spirit alive to this very day, 30 years later. 'Have you played Atari today?'"
Has anyone noticed? (Score:3, Informative)
Oh yeah.
Pitfall.
Word.
Re:Has anyone noticed? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Has anyone noticed? (Score:2)
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Re:Has anyone noticed? (Score:4, Informative)
No, actually it is not freaky. Atari has decended down and been purchased, acquired, or something along those lines by Infogrames. Infogrames is a big software player in Europe but has small brand recognition in the States. They figured for marketing that they would be better of using the Atari name and logo in the U.S. where it would be more recognized than Infogrames.
So when Neverwinter Nights was going to be released by Publisher Infogrames, what name did they use? Atari of course. Not freaky. Just a sound business decision for those that have never heard of that particular European company.
Good name recognition? (Score:2)
Really, my fond memory of Atari games took over, those chunky graphics, monotone sounds, and the endlessly repeating *fun*, and I got a bit nervous. Nostalgia is good for selling something old fashioned, but is not a good marketing idea for selling something new.
NWN will help build the Atari name, to help push the images of games like ET out of my mind. But does it really matter? I don't buy games just because it was produced by a well known company (not after FF8 that is). I will do what I've been doing for years (with the exception of the aforementioned FF games) which is try to get into the beta test, read the previews, beg my reviewer friends for a copy, download the demos. It doesn't matter to me who's logo is the outside of the box as long as it's a great game.
Re:Has anyone noticed? (Score:2)
I've also seen that Atari has an ad all over TV for some driving game.
Also on Guantlet (Score:2)
They've got some creative people behind the brand name still.
Guantlet and Guantlet Legends have the ATARI logo.
Re:Also on Guantlet (Score:2)
That would be Atari Games, which was the coin-op division, spun off back in the Warner days, or somewhere thereabouts. It was better known in the home video game market as Tengen.
I played an Atari game just now NWN (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Has anyone noticed? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Has anyone noticed? (Score:4, Interesting)
Incidentally June 25th marked the 20th anniversary of the release of Blade Runner. Atari's long decline, which began after the great video game crash of '83, has long been associated with the so called 'Blade Runner Curse'. Atari, along with Pan Am, Cusinart, and Ma Bell were just a few of the companies whose logos were prominantly featured in the film only to suffer a complete financial collapse in the 1980s. Other companies, such as Coca Cola, suffered minor setbacks(i.e. New Coke) while others such as Budweiser and TDK emerged unscathed.
Re:Has anyone noticed? (Score:4, Funny)
So you're saying some companies did poorly, some did OK, and some did great. SPOOKY!!!
Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:4, Informative)
Commodore 64 joysticks can do diagonal, but it doesn't seem to confuse the Atari's too much.
Also an option are the original Genesis controllers. Use "B" as the fire button, and the pad as the directions. Again, Genesis can do diagonal, but that's OK.
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:2, Informative)
Hardware store usually carry it and brand doesn't really matter.
I have fixed quite a few Atari joysticks with this.
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:2)
Here's where you can get one - and a holiday too (Score:2)
I was tempted to buy one - £10 for a piece of history! - but decided not to as I'm sure the one that I had as a kid is lying in the loft right now just aching to be brought down again.
So, if you want an Atari 2600, and a holiday in the sun to boot, visit Playa. The store concerned is a TV, video and music outlet one the first floor of the "Jumbo Centre" shopping precinct.
Enjoy.
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:2)
The bright side of using an emulator to play the 2600 games is you may find games you never knew existed!
I got into SNES emulating a couple of years ago, and I thought it was cool that I could play around with the Japanese versions of games. Very fascinating stuff. You may find something out about your Atari that you didn't know about.
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:2)
All were acquired through your friend and mine, Ebay. It is *the* place to find vintage Atari items.
There is also a store, BEST Electronics, that pretty much only sells Atari stuff. Check out their web page here: http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/
I've ordered several items from them; excellent shop.
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:2)
Re:Anyone got a working Atari? (Score:2)
Try more like hundreds. Even if you count bootleg and import versions of games, you're still talking in the 800 or so range, IIRC. It's a major milestone for a collector to pass 300, and expensive to pass 500. Even the NES only has in the 800 range, but most of those are unique games.
Have you played Atari today? (Score:2, Informative)
I am not sure their offical role in the developmental process, however, but I did play Atari today!
Re:Have you played Atari today? (Score:2, Funny)
I wonder when they'll port it to the 2600....
Damn Shame about Jaguar (Score:2)
Re:Damn Shame about Jaguar (Score:2)
Re:Damn Shame about Jaguar (Score:2)
Re:Damn Shame about Jaguar (Score:2)
...not to mention the new Tempest.
atari was great! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:atari was great! (Score:2)
Atari, Commodore, Apple.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Nothing like nostalgia to remind oneself of one's age.
Re:Atari, Commodore, Apple.... (Score:2)
Meet and Greet (Score:2, Informative)
Combat? (Score:2)
I can still remember my little sister and I playing this for HOURS. Good times...
Jason
Re:Combat? (Score:2)
Breakout also had a number of options, but not as many as combat AFAIR.
Re:Combat? (Score:2)
Atari rocks (Score:2)
Everyone rejoices the 30th birthday of Atari, home to such great games as Beat 'Em and Eat 'Em! [gamefaqs.com] and E. T. - the Extra Terrestrial [atariage.com].
Thank god I still have my 7800 in working condition....
Re:Atari rocks (Score:2)
Think of all the dog food you can eat now with that kind of money.
Re:Atari rocks (Score:2)
Only to the unwashed masses. To a serious collector, it's not that important. Crazy Climber or Rubik's Cube or Quadrun are much harder to find. My CtCw cost me a dollar, in a two-pack at a thrift store. Two years ago, no less. My Crazy Climber took two weeks of waiting for a set to go for sale at a computer resale shop.
Excuse for old farts to feel even older (Score:3, Funny)
Show of hands: How many Slashdotters remember seeing that first Pong game? I would have guessed it closer to 1975, but such is my fading memory. I read that Nolan Bushnell installed the first quarter-operated Pong machine in a Bay Area pizza restaurant, and the next day the owners called to complain that it was broken. He went to check it, and found that the reason it wouldn't work was that the coin box was absolutely stuffed full.
You young sprats today can't appreciate what a weird feeling it was to twist a knob and see, up on the black-and-white TV screen, something responding to the motion. It was one of those "everything has changed" moments.
Oh well. Time to order some Geritol.
Re:Excuse for old farts to feel even older (Score:3, Interesting)
A "hockey" style where each controller controlled two paddles and you had to get the ball through a small "net" opening
A "tennis" mode where you had to get the ball past the oponents paddle
A "handball" mode where you took turns hitting the ball off a wall.
I whined and cried when we couldn't get the darn thing working Christmas night when it had been working earlier in the day. Turns out we had an AC adapter with multiple jacks available, and I had the polarity reversed.
I still hate hardware to this day.
Anyone want to buy my old Odyssey? I'll make sure it still works before shipping it.
Re:Excuse for old farts to feel even older (Score:2)
Being one of the "have not's" I had to settle for a *mechanical* pong clone, which actually turned out to be quite cool in and of itself.
Wow, that brings back a memory that I forgot about! Was this [ev1.net] the game you were talking about?
I had one of those, and it was pretty fun. It actually had a wind-up mechanism and an LED for the ball. The only thing the batteries did was light up the ball.
Re:Excuse for old farts to feel even older (Score:2)
That wasn't Crystal's Pizza was it? Oh Lord I loved that place when I was growing up.
I love the Atari (Score:2)
I'll never forget how I spent endless hours playing Pac Man, Asteroids, Defender, Tron, or about a zillion other games on the VCS. It is ALL about Atari.
Nintendo, Sega, the 3D0, the Playstation (or PS2) all suck in comparison to the stalwart Atari game console. Now I'm in the mood to sit on my driveway in a lawn chair, enjoy a Negra Modelo, and reminisce about the good ol' days. Oooooooh well.
"Have you played Atari - today" (Score:2)
The tune came back INSTANTLY as soon as I saw the words in the story. (sniffle)
Commodore had Bach's Two-Part Invention. Was there a tune associated with Apple II's advertising? (the Lemonade Stand song doesn't count
Re:"Have you played Atari - today" (Score:2)
Under $50 Bucks? Under $50 Bucks! From Ah-Tar-E
Ugh..
Some technical information about the atari 2600 (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Some technical information about the atari 2600 (Score:2)
Ahh the Atari ST (Score:4, Interesting)
I had an Atari ST (first series) with :
There were 1, 2 and 4Mb versions as well - studios all had at least 1Mb of RAM because Cubase wouldn't run in 512Kb (except the cracked versions).
Loads of great games were out for it, and some good cracking crews with much less of the pretension of the new WareZ k1dd1ez... they had to snail mail disks amongst themselves pretty much...
I learned a lot of my trade on that Atari ST. It was a 16 bit architecture, ahead of its time for its price, and trained my hands on a mouse, touch typing, and of course coding in STOS Basic and later 68000 assembler (remember devpac, anyone)?
Re:Ahh the Atari ST (Score:2)
Anyone out there know what happened to François Lionet? That guy was my hero for the longest time.
Re:Ahh the Atari ST (Score:2)
How about the demoscene...anyone remember Punish Your Machine? How about those old Lost Boys demos? MAN. I'd kill for a PC port of these things...
Re:Ahh the Atari ST (Score:2)
The built-in MIDI was nice, except that the implementation was non-standard. IIRC, they rigged the passthrough to save costs. This worked fine for completely standard MIDI equipment, but failed with others.
I also had several STs. The first one I'd upgraded by piggy backing 256Mbit (??) *chips* onto the ones on the board. The second one used the EZRAMII upgrade board to get a whopping 2.5M.
One really cool tool was a device called the Spectre GCR. Along with the rock steady display of the SM124 monitor, it allowed an ST to emulate a Mac Plus. I wonder what ever became of the legendary Dave Small??
Do you remember GFA Basic? I wrote hundreds of little applications in that interpreter, including several math graphing applications. Back then, a high resolution plot (i.e., 640x400) would take *hours* to complete. That I can do the same plots in under 1 second on my Duron 1.3G is pretty amazing
I still have software for the ST, including the Megamax C compilers, some version of Pascal and Fortran, GFA Basic, and Dungeon Master...
Re:Ahh the Atari ST (Score:2)
Oh yeah, you built new mazes with a text editor!
I loved that game!
fore more VG history... (Score:2)
its actually my girlfriends collection (and site), but she is a videogame history buff, so theres lots of info here too.
its gunna /. quick so watch out.
Time Warner/AOL/Atari? (Score:2)
Re:Time Warner/AOL/Atari? (Score:2)
Re:Time Warner/AOL/Atari? (Score:2)
And you neglected to mention the single most important creation of GCC, the Atari 7800? The Not Invented Here syndrome partly contributed to the initial shelving of the 7800, but it was a pretty capable console.
The 7800 was also the first console to use cryptographic lockout protection to prevent third party games. (Not surprising, considering it was developed in the shadow of MIT and RSA.) Only in the current generation are consoles again using cryptography in their lockout protection.
Re:Time Warner/AOL/Atari? (Score:2)
Excellent point. I helped a bit around the company in early 1983, wiring new office space, but I wasn't really there for the 7800. I had a housemate in 1986 who had been a 7800 developer, so I did get to play with the system while it was in limbo.
Here's [atari-history.com] an excellent 7800 history.
Atari ST (Score:4, Interesting)
RMN
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Yup (Score:2)
Re:Atari ST (Score:2, Informative)
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You're all liars. (Score:2)
I can play old mame games, and NES roms, and have a good time, but the 2600 is too primitive to enjoy in our modern nvidia-soaked world.
I still think the Pitfall II music was really cool, though ;)
Re:You're all liars. (Score:3, Funny)
Magnavox did NOT start the video game business (Score:2)
Useless bit of trivia... (Score:2)
No, it wasn't Dragon Warrior.
This game was also the first game to have an Easter Egg, as placing a certain object in a certain place would cause the programmer's name to pop up.
So, who still remembers where the secret room in the red castle is and thinks they can find their way through the maze on the first try?
Re:Useless bit of trivia... (Score:2)
It also included a cool demo mode. You had to get eaten by a dragon then the dragon gets picked up by the bat. You'll be carried off for a visit to nearly every location in the game.
Then again, being that a bat can pick up a dragon, I'm firmly convinced that swallows CAN carry coconuts, including the African Swallow (obscure reference).
Oh yeah baby!! (Score:2)
In addition, it was the first (only?) console to have a baseless mecury joystick for games like Space Rescue. This joystick decided the direction you wanted to go by where you pointed it. It was accurate as hell for that old box too. Only problem was that if you got tired you could just rest the joystick on anything...
Odyssey 1 schematics online (Score:2)
Talk about a boom / bust (Score:2)
Anyway, I was happy to find a 1979 Sears 'wishbook' with the Atari 400 in it. Also, the way to run a classic Atari 800(XL) system today is use the APE [atarimax.com] (Atari Peripheral Emulator), run it to your PC serial port, then you can mount disks from a PC and have tons of Atari software (my entire collection fits on a CD) at your fingertips. It also daisy chains with a normal 850/1050 fdd if you need to get data on/off 5.25" floppies.
Personal faves: Blue Max, Kennedy Approach, etc.
Re:Talk about a boom / bust (Score:2)
Talk about nostalgia! When is Google Catalogs [google.com] gonna let me search the 1984 Sears Wishbook for the GIJoes, Transformers, and Coleco games I want!
To quote Homer: "I demand satisfaction!" (slaps Google in the face with glove)
Who remembers Firefox? (Score:2)
I think I went through about 10 controllers just on that game, I had a bad habit back then of throwing them around the room when I didn't finish a board. That has got to be one of the hardest games I ever played. I have ninjalike reflexes for my age and I give sole credit to that game for them.
Other favorites... damn...
River Rage
Yar's Revenge
Dig Dug ($30 for a game was a lot back then!!)
Adventure
Berserk (guilty pleasure I know)
Pitfall
Tron
Anyone know how many carts were published for the 2600/7800 series of Atari Games?
30 years later... (Score:2)
Atari and Neverwinter Nights? (Score:3, Interesting)
I wish them well, as without the venerable Atari 2600, I might have never wandered down the home computer path, and then I'd have to find something ELSE to blame my lack of a life on.
T-Shirt (Score:2)
Neverwinter Nights (Score:3, Informative)
Atari Arcade Games Rule! (Score:2)
From the vector classics such as Tempest and BattleZone (dating myself), to Hard Drivin'/Race Drivin' (the first great driving simulators, IMO), Steel Talons (helicopter simulator), STUN Runner (I *so* want a Shockwave on the freeway sometimes), and the Rush series (San Franciso Rush, Rush 2049)... all have had fantastic game play. Heck, after too much Race Drivin', I finally couldn't play driving games without good force feedback. How else do you know when the wheels are on the edge of losing grip? 8-)
2600 "Combat" fans might enjoy this link (Score:2)
The Atari 2600 Combat Project
http://nehe.gamedev.net/nehegames/combat
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it (Score:2)
The greatest game ever. (Score:2)
Star Raiders for the 400/800 computers.
Coolest. Game. Ever.
Ever.
Seriously, Ever.
I once read... (Score:2)
She was paid extra to sit around even while not babysitting and answer the phone, pretending to be a secretary. It was done to give the illusion that Atari was more than a small time operation.
When I read this, a few years back, she was still with the company as it was then though it didn't mention what she did. Perhaps she still answered phones?
Re:I wonder... (Score:2)
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Yeah, I was there (Score:2)
From my resume. I worked there briefly in late 1982.
While it was a very comfortable place to work... one could already see the place had no future. In high-tech, complacence = death. I'm surprised the place lasted as long as it did.
The place had a very nice large hot tub and good food in the company cafeteria.
I take a certain amount of perverse pride in the fact that I was really there. The people who romanticize the place obviously weren't.
Re:I wonder... (Score:2)
Never had one at home...my parents thought video games were a total waste of time. That didn't stop me from playing them at other people's houses, though.
I picked one up off of eBay last year, along with sticks, paddles, a driving controller, and some games. Just like old computers, old video-game machines are dirt cheap—and much more fun than emulators. (A cartridge that could be loaded with downloaded ROMs and played would be nice, though...doesn't somebody make such a device?)
Re:I wonder... (Score:2)
Listen to the beeps as the Atari reads each sector of the disk. After a time, you will hear a different sound, or a pause or something. This is the bad sector!
When playing your duplicated disk, simply open the drive door at the right time, then close it.
Most of those games are looking for a disk error, but they don't care which one!
I remember Ultima ][. Turn Atari on, wait 19 beeps, flip the drive door...one...two...close! The 1040 drive was the best for this because it had the little lever on the front that allowed for accurate timing.
Was a much nicer time back then.
OT: Blade runner curse (Score:5, Informative)
The Atari logo is also in Blade runner. Maybe Ridley Scott should get Lucas to go in and replace it with an sony logo.
Interestingly enough, most of the companies that were featured in the futuristic world of Blade Runner have since gone bankrupt. So many, in fact, that this observation has been dubbed The Blade Runner Curse [scribble.com]
GMD
Ooooo... a curse (Score:2)
Starbucks
Walmart
AOL/Time Warner
Microsoft
Disney
Anyone I'm missing?
Re:Atari Computer Camp (Score:3, Funny)
"...and there was this one time, at Atari computer camp...I took a WICO joystick and stuck it up my..."
Chris
Forget reissues -- just get MAME (Score:3, Informative)
Reissues of arcade classics (centipede, tempest, asteroids) for my PC.
Screw the reissues. Just download MAME and you get to play the EXACT SAME game you remember as a child.
I always thought a very underrated Atari game was Warlords which was kind of a 4-person cut-throat version of Breakout. You had to defend your "castle" against a bouncing ball and use it to destroy the castles of your 3 opponents. Cool game.
GMD
Still play Warlords once in a while today. (Score:2)
Great game! 4 players even!
The beauty of simplicity (Score:2)
Combat was the shit! there was something special about being able to play 27 different versions of the same game... all on one low capacity cartridge no less.
Those old videogames will always have a place in my heart because they were challenging and simple (not to be confused with "easy") at the same time. Today's modern games do not interest me at all. I work hard all day long and when I come home I don't want to read some kind of manual to learn how to play a game. And screw thinking! I just want to lean back in my easy chair and blow up some aliens or eat some power pills.
Combat is a prime example of the beauty of simplicity. Each of those games was pretty straightfoward. It's immediately obvious what you're supposed to do. And if you get bored with game #17 on the cartridge, just click over to another variation. Combat could keep you entertained for months. And it probably took almost no time to code up. I don't understand why today's games don't make an effort to return to maddeningly addictive, simple games (like Tetris). Wouldn't churning out games like this be more profitable then spending months rendering some photorealistic first-person dungeon shoot-em-up?
or am i just showing my age?...
GMD
Re:Check out this staggering collection of console (Score:2)
not fore sale though.
Re:Still going. Nothing outlasts....Atari (Score:2)
They provided their logo!
Re:Atari Jealousy (Score:2)
And I was envious of people with ColecoVisions. All I had was a Coleco Game System, the predicesor to the ColecVision. It had about 6 built-in games, all of them variants of Pong. They were all hard wired in and you selected them with a switch.
Re:ah yes... (Score:2)
Much better games were available for this classy add-on.
Re:"Computer Space" was first, I believe (Score:2)