

New Starcraft: Ghost Trailers 185
Bobartig writes "Blizzard Entertainment has put up gameplay trailers for their upcoming console title, Starcraft: Ghost. It looks hot. It's available both in both Quicktime and DivX, with plenty of mirrors."
Interesting (Score:1, Interesting)
Blizzard's direction (Score:1, Insightful)
Warcraft III was like Shakespeare writing a comedy-tragedy. Romeo and the Merry Wives of Windsor, anyone? From what I gather, Ghost is more of the same.
Re:Blizzard's direction (Score:2)
Blizzard hasn't invented anything with its game. There was Dune2 before Warcraft. Their business lies in improving existing genres. See Starcraft. Nothing really new in that game, but it was so great because of the fantastic gameplay.
I don't see SC Ghost as a revolutionnary game either, but who knows what the gameplay will look like, maybe it'll just be the next reference in the genre. 'cause, imho, Warcraft 3 isn't.
I'm *glad* Blizzard is approaching new kind of games, and not yet another Warcraft/Diablo.
We all know how rare it is that radically new games (Populous, Homeworld, Myst, etc) are released. This is just business, they won't take risks if people keep buying Doom 19. The best we can expect is real improvement in existing genres (B&W, RCT), or mixed genres (I see Warcraft 3 as a failed experiment).
If they want to try some new orientations in game design, fine, let them do, 'cause it can't really be worse than a stupid clone.
It LOOKS good... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:It LOOKS good... (Score:4, Insightful)
And kudos to Blizzard for releasing it on all consoles at once. Now if only they'd make a PC version. Not likely, esp. considering the fact that my definition of PC specifies to "Mac."
Re:It LOOKS good... (Score:1, Funny)
They had robots in the 50's?
You're an idiot, aren't you? It's okay, you can admit it. There are lots of idiots on Slashdot. You'll feel right at home.
Re:It LOOKS good... (Score:2)
Re:It LOOKS good... (Score:2)
Re:It LOOKS good... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:It LOOKS good... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:It LOOKS good... (Score:2, Funny)
I don't know about you, but I couldn't shoot a girl(troll ethics and all).
If shes fully covered in armor, its kinda hard to tell she's a girl, so she's easier to kill.
Now, if you can see her happy fun places at all times, there is no way you could kill her.
The huge hole also helps air out her stanky playground, which i assume gets pretty bad in a suit like that.
Another point... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Another point... (Score:1)
Re:Another point... (Score:1)
Re:Another point... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Another point...File size. (Score:3, Informative)
Took me a while to get the QuickTime version, though. The mirrors weren't working, save perhaps File Planet with its mandatory registration, and I couldn't reach Blizzard's own FTP server with a browser. I used a stand-alone FTP client instead to download it.
Re:Another point...File size. (Score:2)
QuickTime can only decode Simple, not Advanced Simple, so SV3.1 can beat it handily.
Of course, they used Sorenson Video 1, which is much old and lousy. Presumably this is for backwards compatibility (to QT3), instead of the only months old QT6 which is required for MPEG-4.
MPEG-4 is awesome, but it is NOT all about maximum quality at small files. Propritary codecs beat all public implementations of MPEG-4 today on this measure.
Of course, being an ISO standard has other, huge, advangages.
Re:Another point... (Score:2, Funny)
pc/linux (divx format)
mac (quicktime)
i bet they must be getting lots of email from angry windows users...
-damn you blizzard, first you go consoles, now linux and mac only?!?! wtf!?!?
Re:Another point... (Score:2)
That and the game companies buy into the Gamespy Fileplanet thingy that I REFUSE to sign up for just to look at game video clips! Did they not make enough money from Diablo, Warcraft and Starcraft to buy a decent webserver of their own??
Re:Another point... (Score:2)
Yes I'm offtopic, but I'd blame that on internet explorer. Sometimes the best (easiest) solution for preventing it from opening the file in an external app (Movieplayer in this case) without asking the user is to zip the file. I guess they don't want one million people sending them angry mails because the "streaming video" is so slow.
Re:Another point... (Score:2)
Re:Another point... (Score:2)
I assure you, most is not enough in most cases. People left klick, some movie player pops up, and they wonder why the movie is so slow on their 56k. And starcraft is not a good enough criterium to filter out enough "lusers".
As for not being on a streaming server, well, this won't help for 56k too, but you are right, I wouldn't want to keep this marketing pap on my HD too. Maybe they think that people will pass it around etc., and that streaming is more expensive, I don't know.
What I wanted to just point out is that zipping is not always used for compression only, nearly always thanks to braindead internet explorer.
See for yourself [microsoft.com], but beware, it will make your brain hurt.
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Re:Another point... (Score:3, Insightful)
Right! (Score:1)
Nihilistic (Score:3, Informative)
Also, Nihilistic was started by a group a programmers that left Blizzard after working on StarCraft.
Re:Nihilistic (Score:3, Informative)
Also, Nihilistic was started by a group a programmers that left Blizzard after working on StarCraft.
Actually, Nihilistic is a bunch of ex-Lucasarts guys who left after doing Jedi Knight I.
Re:Nihilistic (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Nihilistic (Score:2)
Console only title....? (Score:1, Troll)
Cool weapons but... (Score:3, Funny)
Direct download link (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.nforcefiles.net/afilesa2aa/movie/Ghost
Re:Direct download link (Score:1)
Seems to me that either the folks at quicktime are behind or us pc/linux =) users are getting jipped. Hopefully it isn't the latter.
Re:Direct download link (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Direct download link (Score:1)
When are some web developers going realise that a lot us of have fat enough pipes to have this sort of media streamed?
[End of rant]
Starcraft as FPS? (Score:1)
Re:Starcraft as FPS? (Score:1)
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 11:32:33 -0700
From: Sales
To:
Subject: RE: starcraft question.
Blizzard has not announced any plans for further development of the StarCraft series. All of our game designers and development teams are currently working on other projects.
Re:Starcraft as FPS? (Score:1)
Re:Starcraft as FPS? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Starcraft as FPS? (Score:2)
What on earth makes you think they will use the WC3 engine for SC2, and what makes you think that "a running engine and a couple of finished models" means that it won't take long to complete a game?
It takes time to create the technology as well as the contents, you know. Not to mention alpha and beta testing, and tweaking, tweaking and yet more tweaking. This is Blizzard, after all.
Not to underestimate the creativity and amount of work which goes into a model, but creating a single model doesn't take that long! And besides, they've already got the SC models built. They used them for the cutscenes in SC, remember (and maybe even as basis for the 2D characters in the game itself).
The ending in WC3 is just an easter egg of sorts, and says absolutely nothing about SC2. And it sounds like you don't even know what you are writing, because the exact story you are replying to now is a 3D game based in the SC universe, and it actually has 3D models of Hydras, Zealots, etc.. Why on earth do you start talking about SC2?
And the WC3 engine for SC2? I hope that is not the case.
Ghost in a shell? (Score:5, Funny)
Early for Blizzard? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Early for Blizzard? (Score:1)
love/hate blizzard (Score:5, Funny)
Could someone please remind me if we hate blizzard this week?
thanks.
nbfn
Re:love/hate blizzard (Score:3, Funny)
Schedule?!? (Score:1)
Where have you been? Join the club! (pun intended)
Re:love/hate blizzard (Score:1)
Well, Blizzard hasn't sued anybody attempting to do stuff they really shouldn't be doing, so you can focus on the important part which is making good games.
(Ah, good thing I killed the lead Orc. Now I have +3 Flame protection against comments like that!)
Re:More Mono Trolling, Don't You Folks Get Tired? (Score:1, Insightful)
> do stuff they really shouldn't be doing,
And who the hell tells people what they should and shuldn't be doing? Blizzard? Uh, no... So you're wrong [bnetd.org].
EDITORS: REVOKE MOD PRIVLEDGES OF UPMODDERS (Score:1, Funny)
Re:love/hate blizzard (Score:4, Interesting)
But, jesus, that game looks sexy. It's very VERY hard to keep up your morals when the companies do that to you; I hate blizzard, and I've sworn off Diablo, warcraft AND starcraft because of what they've done. But it's going to take every last drop of willpower left in my body to stop me from buying this game when it comes out, and there's a chance that it just won't be enough.
Re:love/hate blizzard (Score:2)
Re:love/hate blizzard (Score:2)
HIH
Don't count your Zergs until they hatch (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Don't count your Zergs until they hatch (Score:2, Interesting)
my main issue is that i don't forsee many LAN parties featuring SC:G. while i'll piece together computers and build a LAN in my home office to play multiplayer PC games, i don't see myself going out and buying four (insert console here) and four TVs (or VGA adapters).
pity.
although if they were going to port it to PC, the Xbox code might be a good place to start. heh.
was i the only one that was deeply disappointed by WC3?
Re:Don't count your Zergs until they hatch (Score:1)
Nope, you sure weren't. But you were probably among the many (myself included) with ridiculously high expectations. Granted, I wasn't DEEPLY disappointed, but I got bored with WC3 pretty quickly.
But to be semi on topic, I have a console so I'll probably play this one. However, I'm not expecting much in the way of multiplayer at all.
Re:Don't count your Zergs until they hatch (Score:2)
Re:Don't count your Zergs until they hatch (Score:1)
Re:Don't count your Zergs until they hatch (Score:2)
Re:Don't count your Zergs until they hatch (Score:5, Insightful)
Blizzard can get away with it. They release their games when it's ready to be released.
Personally, I'd prefer companies take a cue from Blizzard and consider the quality of their games instead of trying to meet trade-shows. With all the crap out there, there's room for companies that actually care.
Re:Don't count your Zergs until they hatch (Score:2)
No, I mean like Star Craft, Warcraft III, Super Mario 64, Diablo II (I think that one was late....), etc.
Um... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Um... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Um... (Score:2)
Re:Um... (Score:1)
Re:Um... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Um... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Um... (Score:1)
http://www.blizzard.com/war3/movies/
I'll buy it if... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'll buy it if... (Score:1)
It's in the pipe, five by five.
...at least 8 glasses of fan service a day... (Score:5, Funny)
Will there be dramatic netative-color fade-outs that make her ass crack glow in the game too? If not, wanna run out a patch for that? Thanks.
Fwoosh! Blinded by da booty! Take that, Zerg overlord!
Goodnight everybody!
Re:...at least 8 glasses of fan service a day... (Score:1)
/me wonders... (Score:1)
OT: Random missing (Score:1)
Become-A-Zerg (Score:1)
a bit disappointed (Score:4, Interesting)
It's been a while (since the doom3 trailers actually) since I've had a 'wow... this shit is awesome...' reaction, and SC-G doesn't trigger that for me.
Then again, I might have played just a bit too much fps games to get wowed anymore. All I see in those trailers is cannon fodder
Don't underestimate the source material... (Score:3, Insightful)
But of course, who really knows. As with everything, have to wait and see...
Re:a bit disappointed (Score:1)
Re:a bit disappointed (Score:2)
Maybe it's just me : i used to play Q3A a lot (as well as Q1 and Q2) but the last few months I got bored with the repetitiveness ('finally' says my wife, until she saw I got hooked on warcraft)
chris should run a poll on the fps and 3ps games
- lov'em
- never loved'm
- bored with it
- loved, then bored, now in love again
3rd person shoooters are the new platform games (Score:3, Insightful)
Everything now-a-days has to be 3d (Why this is, I don't know. I'd really like to play another side-scrolling sprite-based Mario Brothers game), and while games like Crash Bandicoot, Sonic Adventures, and Mario64 did well in certain markets, they're not the kinds of titles that sell anymore. They manifestly lack flashy graphics and things exploding, which are what sells games, apparently. As such, the console market had to move on to something else. FPSes have a pretty tight upper limit as to what you can innovate, and most releases focus on the newer, flashier, more-memory-eating graphics than any actual difference in gameplay. Console game authors can't rely on hardware upgrades to support their latest endeavour, so FPS games are pretty much right out. Third-person shooters (or just 3rd person adventure games in general, to include games like Onimusha that fit the mold but lack the guns) give you a little more freedom to innovate ("In this one you play a ninja frog with 76 secret tongue attacks to unlock!") without really moving Too far away from the "slightly-maze-like levels with plenty of moving things to make scream, bleed, and stop moving" formula.
So until someone comes up with a new display medium, we'll probably be stuck with an ever increasing selection of 3rd person adventure games and progressively more movie-like RPGs to play on consoles.
cup (Score:5, Funny)
big fat ass tho... might spurr ideas...
Re:cup (Score:2)
Just imagine.... (Score:1)
-1: stop using that joke...
hmmm... (Score:1, Informative)
ONI // Ghost (Score:1)
Well, StarCraft ghost looks far more beautiful, i hope they'll be a dozen of combo to do. Btw, a funny thing is that ONI means ghost or demon in Japanese [godgames.com]... So, is this StarCraft - ONI?
Check the web for some shots, scripts and maps at ONI Central [bungie.org] and ONI Res [bungie.org]. Btw, you can download [fileplanet.com] the demo [godgames.com] it's not that big, and i guess i'll playing it in some minutes again.
freddo [netfirms.com]
Re:ONI // Ghost (Score:1)
freddo [netfirms.com]
All three consoles? (Score:3, Interesting)
All that being said, I'm looking forward to GTA4 on Oct 29 much more
Re:All three consoles? (Score:2)
Re:All three consoles? (Score:1)
What about PC? (Score:2)
There's too much marketing going out to console games right now. I need something other than NWN to test my CPU and video card to the edge.
(and while they're at it, can they get the Squaresoft guys to bring out FFX for PC too?)
DivX not working? (Score:2, Interesting)
I downloaded and installed the latest DivX codec.
Anyone else get this?
consoles are EVIL (Score:1)
Re:consoles are EVIL (Score:1)
If you can't afford that, then give up the dream of playing DoomIII which will DEFINATELY require an expensive upgrade, no matter what you have now.
Re:consoles are EVIL (Score:1)
On the 12th Day of Christmas, Blizzard gave to me: (Score:3, Funny)
Eleven Science Vessels
Ten Ultralisks
Nine Battlecruisers
Eight Archons Burning
Seven Zerglings Swarming
Six Zealots Fighting
Five Newborn Queens
Fout Hydralisks
Three Marines
Two Terran Waiths
And a brand New SCV!
Tomb Raider meets Halo.. (Score:2)
Disappointed... (Score:1)
It's StarCraft after all...made for and inspired by the PC... what else will the video game publishers take away from the PC gamers who MADE the next generation gaming market?
Short memories (Score:1)
I loved their earlier games, I have Warcraft, Diablo, Diablo 2, and Starcraft (all legit, the only reason why I still have a PC at home with windows) but I will not in good conscience buy another.
Re:Did I download the wrong trailer file? (Score:1, Troll)
Am I missing something?
or Did the (-1 troll) moderator work for Blizzard, Micosoft, Apple, or related law firm or advertizing agencey
I am only trying to ask if I have the correct trailer????
Re:BIG ADS! (Score:1)
Actually, I'll insert the de rigeur "haven't seen an ad on Slashdot since I started using OmniWeb" remark instead, if that's okay with you.
Re:Which console to buy? (Score:1)
Re:Which console to buy? (Score:2)