The 25 Dumbest Moments in Gaming 129
Gudlyf writes "GameSpy has a multi-part series this week titled The 25 Dumbest Moments in Gaming, highlighting some of the biggest debacles ever to plague our beloved pastime. While only the first part of the series is present, I can already think of a few that the list wouldn't be complete without. Anyone care to offer their own picks?" Predictions for the Top 5 also welcome, we'll run another story at the end of the week to see how people did.
Why not go for the easy one (Score:5, Funny)
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More than just that (Score:2)
I predict that Daikatana will take all five of the Top Five Mistakes.
Wow (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Wow (Score:4, Insightful)
Nintendo cancelling the SNES CD and leaving Sony holding a half-finished CD-ROM superconsole. Which they promptly decided to finish by themselves, and used to thoroughly brutalise everyone else and take over most of the console market.
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thats easy (Score:3, Interesting)
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Saying that though, I did buy a PC 6 months later because I knew games like C&C would be so much better.
Re:thats easy (Score:1)
Now Theme Park on the Mega Drive is another story.
- Chris
Re:thats easy (Score:2)
Especially funny was when someone finally assembled a map pak to allow PC users to play on Dreamcast servers. A very short and very bloody massacre ensued involving some fish and a barrel.
#26 - Gamespy decides all gamers run 800x600 (Score:3, Insightful)
#26 - Gamespy decides that all gamers run their desktops at 800x600, and forces all their pages to be 800 pixels wide.
Wowbagger - Yes, obviously gamers don't buy high-end video cards and monitors that can run at higher than 800x600. Gamers like to see lots of wasted space on their screens.
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Re:#26 - Gamespy decides all gamers run 800x600 (Score:5, Insightful)
#27 - Gamespy Arcade #28 - FilePlanet (Score:2, Insightful)
#27 - Gamespy Arcade
Micro$will - Yes, all of those who bought a lifetime subscription to GameSpy3D now have to fork out $5 a month for all the new crap, like Roger Wilco and GameSpy Arcade. Joy!
#28 - FilePlanet
And for those of you that like to keep their games up to date (I.E. actually play them online) get the extra special benefit of shelling out more cash for access to FilePlanet! Don't bother trying to access id's ftp site, they're always full, just like our "free" 25 user ftp sites.
Thankfull
#28 - FilePlanet (Score:1)
I also love how VilePlant-It was able to completely muscle out all other sources - every game site went to them and that was that.
Perhaps somebody will build BitTorrent into a game - you download the level and provide it as an upload as well...
Re:#28 - FilePlanet (Score:1)
They at least have East Coast servers, which is more than I can say for FilePlanet.
Re:#26 - Gamespy decides all gamers run 800x600 (Score:2)
There are a lot of shitty webdesigners out there...
Predictions... (Score:5, Interesting)
Although it's not as well known, Atari also made a video game called "I, Robot". In fact, it was the first game to use 3D filled polygons I believe. Unfortunately, the game wasn't accepted very well, and people couldn't figure it out I guess. So, out of the 1,000 machines they made, only 500 even sold. The rest were sitting in a warehouse. In order to get rid of them, Atari sent them to Japan... but none of the machines ever got there, as the crew of the ship were given orders to push the machines overboard on the way! I believe the point was to make sure that stockholders didn't see warehouses of unsold machines. In any case, this deserves at least a part in this list.
And I didn't think the US Saturn pads were that bad... in fact, I like them better than Japanese ones. But then, my favorite controller ever was the enormous Jaguar controller, so what do I know?
Re:Predictions... (Score:2, Informative)
It looks and feels like a TV remote control. Ugh.
Re:Predictions... (Score:1)
I never owned a Jaguar, but I used to go over to a buddy's house to play Alien Vs. Predator all the time, still one of my all time favorite console games.
Re:Predictions... (Score:2)
I guess my hands are larger than most peoples though, I don't imagine the controller fits into smaller hands as well (Meanwhile I'm getting carpal tunnel from trying to play my GBA...)
Re:Predictions... (Score:1)
I miss the arcade.
Re:Predictions... (Score:2, Interesting)
some info, screenshot, and history of I, Robot at mame.dk [www.mame.dk]
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> made a video game called "I,
> Robot"....Unfortunately, the game wasn't
> accepted very well, and people couldn't figure
> it out I guess. So, out of the 1,000 machines
> they made, only 500 even sold. The rest were
> sitting in a warehouse. In order to get rid of
> them, Atari sent them to Japan... but none of
> the machines ever got there, as the crew of the
> ship were given orders to push the machines
> overboard on the way!
Sounds l
Gamespy? Puh-lease ... (Score:1, Troll)
But OMG OMG We're making fun of Romero!!!! Gee, you think they'll bring up DNF?
Some that come to mind: (Score:5, Interesting)
1) Intellivision II coming out and being non-backwards compatible [intellivisionlives.com] with some of its own library in an effort to break Coleco's Intellivision releases.
2) John Romero's magazine ad that ran pre-Daikatana that said "John Romero's going to make you his bitch." (I can't find the image, but I know it's kicking around somewhere on the net)
3) Sega's "blast processing" commercial in which they claim Sonic the Hedgehog's fast scrolling is due to some neat-o feature in the Genesis' processor which the SNES lacks.
4) Making a movie [imdb.com] that's basically one huge commercial for the NES, the Power Glove, and Super Mario 3 (shamelessly savvy moment?).
Those are about all that come to mind...
Romero Ad (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Some that come to mind: (Score:2)
Ha ha. And like most men who say "I'll make you my bitch", Romero just goes to show that he's another whiny man with a big ego.
Grow up Romero.
Re:Some that come to mind: (Score:2)
IIRC, the claim was Sonic's rotation (spinning) was only possible on that processor/platform, but since it was only a sprite, that doesn't make much sense now that I think about it. Still, I think that was what the commercial emphasized.
John Romero will make me his WHAT? (Score:1)
Even if Half-Life, which many contend to be one of the best FPS's out there, had used this slogan, I wouldn't have bought it out of principle!
I know it won't make the list, but (Score:4, Interesting)
two words: (Score:3, Insightful)
Other possibilities: Daikatana, 3D0 (the system, the company, the Army Men...ugh), BMX XXX, maybe some of Acclaim's advertising practices (though not likely), and Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (though technically not a game, it's massive failure certainly had repercussions for Squaresoft).
Re:two words: (Score:2)
I'd really like to see a well-developed Square movie. Unfortunately, now, I doubt it'll ever happen.
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The Final Fantasy series is up to what, 11 or 12 now?
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And the animation was top rate.
But the dialogue was nothing special, the plot mediocre, and, most importantly for me, the characters just didn't grab you the way they do in Square's games.
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ET not in top 5? (Score:4, Interesting)
n-gage? (Score:1)
Also, I love my x-box.
And no, I'm not some nuff-nut gaming retard. I've been playing games at least once a week since 1990. Hmmm 13 years, and what do I have to show for it?
Re:n-gage? (Score:2)
Re:n-gage? (Score:1)
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:3, Flamebait)
Plus it plays xbox games.
So tell me again, why is it such a huge mistake?
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:3, Interesting)
Because it's not making a profit. No, sorry, simple as that, you can't argue. Games consoles are supposed to make a profit. The Xbox makes a huge loss for Microsoft. That's a mistake. In fact it would be a fatal mistake for almost any company except for Microsoft.
Now we could argue all the little details. I think the original Xbox controller was shit. I think the original games lineup was worse; how many fucking snowb
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:1)
That's the first time I've ever heard that. Usually a console has to sold at a loss to the company just so they would have a big enough userbase to make money on the software.
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:3, Interesting)
First thing when the revolution comes, shoot all the pedants. Don't be so damn literal. You could naturally assume that I meant profit from the whole franchise not just the bit of plastic that plugs into the TV. The "console as a loss leader" strategy isn't news to anybody on /.. Mic
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:2)
Are you lazy? Do you expect everybody else to do your research for you.
Here's a start [bbc.co.uk] but you find the next one yourself. I suggest reading the SEC.
Choice quote regarding the Xbox division: "This loss is by far the largest of Microsoft's unprofitable divisions."
Xbox (Score:1)
at least in a business sense the Xbox is a massive mistake
it has a huge loss attached to it (somthing like 33% loss)
its only kept alive because bill gates has the money to keep it alive
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:4, Interesting)
Can someone unmoderate the +1 for the post above -- it isn't that interesting and it doesn't even answer the question it was supposed to. Here's why I believe the X-Box was/is a mistake: It's unimaginative and overpriced. Its promise of easy development because of its PC architecture and directX stuff will in fact be a problem as current PC performance pulls away from the Xbox. No doubt development houses are already finding that a project they're working on for the PC has problems running without major compromises on the Xbox. The same, of course, is true for any console but if you've brought developers in based on low porting costs it's a problem -- one that will only get worse. Sega thought that dual-processors in the 32X, or was it the Saturn, would be a good thing, but they were considered too difficult to develop for. Image what people developing for the latest DirectX 9 stuff are going to think about the amount of time it will take to scale detail back enough to play on the Xbox. And you can't just announce an upgrade for a console and start making games that require it straight away. Most of the current owners will not upgrade, therefore most of the developers won't write for the expansion. Chicken and egg.
Microsoft are having a real problem getting the production costs down. The machine is too complicated. Sure, the hard drive will drop in price, but everything else is custom, yet farmed out to other companies. Who's going to put the time into reducing production costs?
Based on the initial price to market, if it wasn't for Microsoft's pig-headedness, the Xbox would have already gone away. Meanwhile, no doubt people are enjoying it around the world, but I'll bet there are already people high up in Microsoft questioning the decision to produce the Xbox. Really they aren't a games company and they don't know what to do with games. Games Business isn't just another flavour of business. No matter how many successful games companies you swallow, making a good, popular, game is part art.
Most companies in the games game have learnt a bit from the past, but only to the point where failures are in slow motion.
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:3, Insightful)
"The machine is too complicated."
Not really. It's basically an NVIDIA IGP+MCP-T (except it uses a PIII instead of an Athlon). It's certainly not as complex as the original PS2 design (the later PS2 designs have been vastly simplified).
"Meanwhile, no doubt people are enjoying it around the world, but I'll bet there are already
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:2)
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:2, Insightful)
"unimaginative and overpriced"? The system has better hardware than its competitors, period. More memory, more processing power, (in some ways) a better graphics system. Of course it's going to cost more- and, at this point, it's not all that much more expensive. And "unimaginative"? What, exactly, is that supposed to mean? It's a piece of hardware. It does its job, with more built-in features (HD, network support, etc) than any of the other consoles. So... how is that unima
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:2)
Just being widely maligned by gamers isn't enough to make it stupid. It has to actually fail in the marketplace.
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:2)
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:2)
The GBA SP has sold over 1 million in 10 weeks. The original GBA sold 5 million from June 18th, 2001 to March 14th 2002, less than 40 weeks. A higher rate, for far longer. The GBA SP is a success, but the GBA is the biggest success in console history.
--
Peter Hatch
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:2)
You're kidding, right? Nintendo sold a boat load of GBAs when it was first released, touted so highly because of all the new cool games and the backwards compatibility. Now they're selling a boatload of GBA:SPs...so they've essentially doubled (well, not quite) their sales by releasing two different handhelds.
I liken it to LOTR selling that first edition DVD that had 2 discs, then coming out with the behemoth 5 disc set a few months later. Half my buddies bought both, fri
Re:ET not in top 5? (Score:1)
Just because something is so retarded that people will actually pay good money to fix it (buy an Afterburner or a new pad) doesn't make it a good idea.
Factory Panic on the Game Gear didn't have a save feature and took longer to complete than you could run it without the adapter in. Grrrrrreat thinking.
- Chris
Ultime Online: Beta - Lord Britich is killed.... (Score:5, Funny)
Classic moment in online history. I remeber the kid who used the fire-scroll on him to that day "Rainz". Lord British (Richard Garriott), Blackthorn (Starr Long), and a few others were on a balcony as LB gave a 'speech' for the end of beta. Next thing you know, the balcony is incased in a fire 'field'. Then LB taunts that fire doesn't hurt him (""nice try..."). 2s later his corpse is on the ground.
Someone responds to LB's death by summoning 4 powerfull deamons, who slaughter the innocent crowd.
A developer had made a mistake and not flipped his invlunerability flag (Developer name: "Grimli" what ever happened to that kid).
Ahh the good old days.
Rainz was banned for it, but it was the end of Beta.
google for "Rainz" "Lord British" for pictures.
-malakai
XBOX is #16 (Score:1, Funny)
Re:XBOX is #16 (Score:1)
Oooh, a funny one (Score:4, Interesting)
Unfortunately for MCA, Nintendo had a very good reason for refraining from a settlement: It had discovered that MCA did not own the "King Kong" copyright! Even more shockingly, in a previous lawsuit MCA Universal had actually gone to pains to prove that the "King Kong" property was public domain!
Re:Oooh, a funny one (Score:3, Funny)
BMX XXX (Score:4, Interesting)
Even my friend Jon, who's a pr0n fiend, said he would never think about buying that game.
Let's see... (Score:2)
What else.. Dwango was a so-so idea at a bad time. The whole Battlecruiser 3000AD (or whatever it's called) debacle. The Sims online? And Sierra released a game back in the early 90's that was so buggy that nobody could get it to run. Some space exploration simulation thingy... I've undoubtedly exorcised the title from my memory.
Re:Let's see... (Score:1)
Re:Let's see... (Score:1)
Re:Let's see... (Score:1)
Feh. I purchased not only the strategy guide but a SCSI card and an external CDROM drive, too, just to play the game. That was the last game title I ever purchased without reading multiple reviews.
There aren't enough foul words to describe the gameplay of Outpost. Or the folly of my youth in having to have it.
Unforgettable.... (Score:4, Funny)
Several years back, when I hadn't ascended any of my characters, I had a really really good game going on, the kind of game you though might take you all the way. Multiple Amulets of Life saving paving the way. Accidental step into a polymorph trap had caused that I wasn't waring my helmet. Met a mind flayer that started eating my brain.
I didn't realize I didn't have my helmet on and my intelligence startted dropping rapidly. Didn't know exactly what that was about, I figured some "restore ability" and that's it and thought "fsck it, here, take some". Intelligence dropped to 2 or 3 and then...
"You die of brainlessness. But wait. --more--"
(I knew I had several amulets of life savings, so no worries)
"Your medallion begins to glow. Your life has been saved. --more--"
(but little did I know...)
"You still have do brain. You die."
"Do you want your possessions identified y/n ?"
I can't begin to describe my astonishment there...
Re:Unforgettable.... (Score:1)
Hate the bastards. Especially since they make you forget things you've identified.
Re:Unforgettable.... (Score:1)
Not only items, but also whole levels. I remember the first time I fought my way up from the depths with the AoY. Two thirds of the normal dungeon levels had to be rediscovered, which is, shall we say bitching, concidering the wizzy keeps spawning there every few hunded rounds...
Nolan Bushnell (Score:4, Interesting)
What began as what I consider to be a series of colossal mistakes, Nolan Bushnell sells Atari for a mere fraction (who knew?) of what it was worth and signs a non-competition clause for an ungodly time like 10 to 15 years. It probably hurt like hell to watch all that money he lost, but I'm sure it was really painful to stay out of the market when his mind was probably sharpest in the area of innovative video games.
Re: Nolan Bushnell (Score:1)
Other Predictions (Score:2)
-Automan (TV series trying to reverse TRON formula)
-Starcade (really bad gameshow that focused way too little time on video games--watch it on G4!)
-G4 (bad content, but who said cable was good?)
-Nintendo's dumping of Sony's CD ROM drive for SNES (can you say Playstation?)
-Game.com B&W (even the Brady Bunch was In Color)
-Best and worst lists on video games. These often change with items that aren't new since the la
A couple of picks of my own (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:A couple of picks of my own (Score:2)
DOAXVB? (Score:1)
Re:DOAXVB? (Score:1)
Re:DOAXVB? (Score:1)
I really hope that was sarcasm [smashbros.com].
Multiplayer "Dungeon Siege"? (Score:2)
Missing from list (Score:2)
Troy Akiman Football / Monday Night football (Score:2)
Atari's biggest mistake... (Score:5, Insightful)
They had the opportunity to buy the rights to produce and distribute a console from a Japanese company, back in the day when American companies were doing all the game consoles. However, it was during the video game crash, and for some reason, they decided to pass, and stick with their own system they were developing.
The system Atari could have had a huge chunk of? The Nintendo Entertainment System. Instead, they stuck to their own products, which really didn't go anywhere.
One wonders what might have happened if they had made the other choice...
Of course, we're talking about a company that had Jack Tramiel in charge, a man who was personally responsible for destroying multiple companies, and seemed to fight against turing the company around. During the Jaguar days, Atari hired someone to help get the company moving and going, a person who ended up quitting because Jack insisted in having control over everything, down to personally deciding when to approve overnight shipping of packages.
What about Interplay and LOTR?? (Score:1)
Tribes 2 (Score:1)
Kinda reminds me of farscape. "Successful? Great! Close 'em down."
What's wrong with N-gage? (Score:2)
Genuinely curious.
Here's a few... (Score:2)
Colecovision Expansion Pack - allowed owners to play Atari games on the Colecovision. Atari sued Coleco. Coleco sued Atari. Ended up in a massive lawsuit totalling somewhere close to $1 billion dollars. (This was a LOT of money circa 1983!) BTW, Colecovision expansion packs are now illegal due to the DMCA.
Daiktana - a gimmie.
R.O.B. - Nintendo's Robotic Operating Buddy, the little piece of plastic crap that 'helped' you play Gyromite.
NES Power Pad - Basically Ninten
Re:Here's a few... (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, you're totally right! [ddrfreak.com] No gamer one would ever want to hop around on a pad and get exercise! [ign.com]
Daikatana 2? (Score:2, Funny)
More Predictions (Score:3, Interesting)
Railgun record (Score:3, Funny)
The server crashed. It couldn't cope with sending 64^2 simultaneous death messages.
Re:Not as much gaming as gaming fandom. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Not as much gaming as gaming fandom. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Not as much gaming as gaming fandom. (Score:1)
Re:Not as much gaming as gaming fandom. (Score:1)
Someone has. Macro Kit SP [madcatz.com]
Re:Not as much gaming as gaming fandom. (Score:3, Informative)
"GameFAQs will still be free.
We're not cutting off any part of the site and making you pay for any of it. From the FAQs to the Message Boards, everything you see today for no c
Fileplanet is horrendous (Score:2)
The way Sourceforge does it is so much nicer.
Re:Fileplanet is horrendous (Score:2)
I go to Fileplanet, right-click download, and save-as wherever I want.
I go to Sourceforge, click download, then click the file I want to download (can't right click yet!), click another link entitled download (still can't right click), and then.... nothing happens. It keeps reloading the page over and over again. (I'm using Mozilla, fwiw).
Now I know it hasn't always done this. It used to then redirect to yet another page, which would then start the download via meta refresh. But dam