Duke Nukem Forever FAQ Updated 57
Thanks to several readers for pointing to a significant update to the Duke Nukem Forever FAQ over at PlanetDuke, which isn't 'official', but is linked from the 3D Realms site. The FAQ collates handy information such as the current engine choice ("DNF will be using an extremely enhanced version of Epic Games' Unreal engine"), release date ("DNF will be released 'When It's Done.' What this means is that 3D Realms will not release the game until they are sure it is the best first person shooter ever"), and the labyrinthine publisher list for the game ("Take 2 Interactive Software is publishing DNF. Prior to this.. [it was] Gathering of Developers... Prior to that, their publisher was Infogrames (now known as Atari), who bought out GT Interactive.. [who] had bought the rights from FormGen.")
Soon (Score:5, Funny)
But... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes but each time it's delayed and a new game comes out that might be considered "the new standard" - i.e Return to Castle Wolfenstein or Quake 3, then surely they have to return to the drawing board to make something even better?
Blimey - no wonder it's been delayed.
Re:But... (Score:2)
At this point, THAT game appears that it will set the new standard.....
Yeah, and also (Score:5, Insightful)
Kind of like the IETF's philosophy has been famously summarized [catb.org] as "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and running code."
And Linus to add, [gnu.org] "I have the numbers for the current practice being BAD. You show me yours to back up YOUR claims. Until you do, you're just spouting opinions and hot air."
I like both very much. I'd love to see it when it's done, but until then it's just hot air.
Re:But... (Score:3, Insightful)
After those come out I think the only way that Duke could ever be the "best FPS ever" would require it to literally have the second coming of christ in every box.
Either that or one of those genii's that gives wishes. "I wish for Doom 3, Half-Life 2, and a G5"
Re:But... (Score:5, Interesting)
3D Realms will not release the game until their publisher gets fed up with footing their bill without any resulting product. 3D Realms will be forced to foot their own bill, and go broke or finish. See Ion Storm for more information.
And also some comments by Joe Siegler: "If we had wanted some quickie piece of crap, it would have been out ages ago. It takes time to innovate - it doesn't take any time to shovel any old crap out there. Since we are not a publically held company, we aren't beholden to the same things that some big companies hold their development teams to, hence we can afford to take the time to make a quality product. Besides, once it's released, no one will care how long it took, they'll care that they have a cool fun game."
Quality products have been made, recieved sequals, and fallen into squallor in the time that 3D Realms has been working on this title. Quality takes time: 3 years. But quality also takes luck. In the now 7 years of development that Duke Nukem Forever has been undergoing, 3D Realms could have released 3 FPSs, one of which might have had that elusive magical all-togetherness that makes games great.
You can't simply throw more development time at the problem of quality... at some point you need to throw out what you have done and start over. You can do this as the DNF people have been doing and release nothing, or you can release what you have done, and move on with your life.
Re:But... (Score:5, Interesting)
if they would be funded by a publisher, they probably would have been forced to release something years ago
Re:But... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:But... (Score:1)
Q: So let me get this straight, I've read articles on Max that mention Remedy, 3DRealms and The Gathering of Developers. Who's doing what?
A: Remedy is developing the game, all technology, editors, art, sounds, the story, etc. have been done at Remedy office. 3DRealms is taking part in that development by helping out on content and gameplay matters, Scott, George and everyone at 3DR are outstanding hardcore game developers and we really dig working with them. The Gathering is
Re:But... (Score:2, Insightful)
That is crap, you shouldn't rely on luck for quality. You have to put the time in and do the work.
Of course I don't believe 3D Realms stratagy on DNF is good for their bottom line. But you have to respect them for trying to innovate. However, I think the fact that it has taken them so long says more about the FPS genre then it does about 3D Realms.
Re:But... (Score:2)
Re:But... (Score:1)
They restared from scrach after the 2001 E3 Video, so if you want to be nice you *could* say that it has only been in development for 2 or 3 years, and clal the rest research.
While I can't wait for the day they release this game, it is nice to see that there motivation seems to be quality rather then just pushing it out the door like so man
I'll believe this when I see it.... (Score:5, Funny)
HURD (Score:3, Interesting)
I mean, HURD publicly available, and somewhat functional.
For all we know Duke Nuke'em Forever still only exists as a design document and a Power Point presentation
This is news?! (Score:2, Troll)
Hey I took a dump today! Film at 11.
Damn. (Score:2, Funny)
Does that mean now that they have seen Half-Life 2 they are gonna start over again?
In other news... (Score:5, Funny)
DNF (Score:3, Informative)
Re:DNF (Score:1)
So what was the change? (Score:2, Funny)
Ummm...
What was the change to the FAQ, anyway?
Re:So what was the change? (Score:2)
FAQ (Score:1, Troll)
Missing icon (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Missing icon (Score:2)
Ah-ha! So it's the Gnome team that's slowing things down?
definate (Score:4, Funny)
If Duke Nukem Fornever ever actually comes out, the gaming community will be robbed of one of it's biggest longest running jokes.
Re:definate (Score:4, Funny)
Yup. And just like that 32-year-old guy in college, I have to wonder how they're supporting themselves.
Re:definate (Score:5, Funny)
I'm 29, but otherwise I'm that guy.
I have a day job, that's how. Sheesh. This eternal student thing is hard work, you know.
When it's finished.... (Score:4, Insightful)
They changed the name. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:They changed the name. (Score:2)
Duke Nuken Forever (Score:3, Funny)
Far too obvious :P (Score:4, Funny)
A: Read the fucking title.
a guess as to why it's taking so long (Score:4, Funny)
...months later....
"Guys, directx 9 was just released, back to the drawing board. This is gonna be the best shooter ever, we're going to push the limits of gaming to new levels. DNF will change the world"
...and still later...
"They just released directx 10! Everybody start over, we're going to make sure this the best damn game ever.
I mean seriously, they're using an extremely modified Unreal engine, and now that the beautiful Unreal 2 engine is out, they're probably trying to change the game to use that instead.
Re:a guess as to why it's taking so long (Score:2)
Re:a guess as to why it's taking so long (Score:1)
Where... (Score:2)
Where do they get the scratch to keep the company going? Takes a lot of money to pay people to do nothing...just ask Eidos about Ion Storm...
This isn't any real news (Score:1, Interesting)
The only new material on this FAQ is stuff that's turned up in discussions here at
The New Conspiracy Theory... (Score:2)
This just announced: 3D-Realms has admitted that they completed the Duke Nukem Forever computer game about four years ago. They were correct when they said that it would be the best shooter game ever, because they were instantaneously addicted to the game. They have been playing the game non-stop for the past four years, having become so entranced that they have missed all 57 release dates.
Ladies and Gentleman, this is what the pool was in the story of Narcissus.
Development costs? (Score:1)
Orwellian game development (Score:1)
I imagine 3D Realms employees sitting at their PII 300Mhz workstations (they've been working on the same bloody game for 7 years, after all) when Broussard runs out and announces, "Comrades! Comrades! We've just update
Name change (Score:2)