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Playstation Lures Kids Into Libraries 44

Thanks to an anonymous reader for pointing to an ICWales article reporting the latest consoles are being used to attract children into libraries, apparently "..to dispel their image as scary, boring places." This measure, being tried in some libraries in Wales, may "..make the youngsters recognize that libraries are places for enjoyment, leisure and information", according to a local librarian. However, Welsh politician Valdo Funning was more dismissive, saying: "I was brought up with Treasure Island and Wordsworth and all the great poets, and it gave me a love of those which I still have today at 67. Literature gives you a lifetime of pleasure. I wouldn't have that if I had been playing on a PlayStation."
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Playstation Lures Kids Into Libraries

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  • by Anonymous Coward
    Watching porn has given me a lifetime of pleasure. Literature wouldn't give you that!
  • Demographics (Score:3, Interesting)

    by M3wThr33 ( 310489 ) on Sunday July 06, 2003 @03:52AM (#6376140) Homepage
    Picking a Playstation is a bad idea. There's not enough AAA all-ages titles(No ESRB in Europe). But we can't forget that Europe has some Playstation feitsh equivalent to our "Nintendo" as the generic term. Nintendo hates Europe so they've never really pitched in over that area, since the price-fixing argument and everything.

    Anyways, BACK TO DEMOGRAPHICS, they should really reconsider their choice, since the Cube has Animal Crossing, Pikin, Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Party 4 and nearly every other good wholesome game devoid of violence, blood, cuss words(THPS), and sex appeal.(I play games with that, but there's no place for it in a library)

    If I was a parent, I'd rather see my kid playing Pikmin than DOA:X.

    Of course, the first thing after buying the console would be getting the FreeLoader, GB Player and 4 Wavebirds. THEN you'd get kids into the library.
    • Re:Demographics (Score:3, Informative)

      by GeorgeH ( 5469 ) *

      Anyways, BACK TO DEMOGRAPHICS, they should really reconsider their choice, since the Cube has Animal Crossing, Pikin, Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Party 4 and nearly every other good wholesome game devoid of violence, blood, cuss words(THPS), and sex appeal.(I play games with that, but there's no place for it in a library)

      You're right about there being no place for that stuff in a library. Libraries should only stock books from family friendly publishers, and get rid of that awful Robert A. Heinlein (he e

      • Re:Demographics (Score:3, Insightful)

        by scot4875 ( 542869 )
        get rid of that awful Robert A. Heinlein (he encourages bloody revolutions and polygamy!) and J.D. Salinger (Catcher in the Rye? More like Catcher in the Sin) and William Shakespeare (Sex, murder, psychopaths).

        While I do agree with your point, to liken these authors and their works to garbage such as DOA:X and the multitude of PSX games that simply allow players to act out adolescent fantasies is to do a great disservice to the authors you mentioned. Their works, despite the 'rough' presentation, have a
      • Ah, you see it wrong.

        If kids want the violence, they must read it in the book and foster their imagination.

        You read mature books because you can handle it. You play mature games because it makes you giddy like a little school girl. The same content in both mediums delivers different effects and caters to different people.
    • ood wholesome game devoid of violence, blood, cuss words(THPS), and sex appeal.(I play games with that, but there's no place for it in a library)


      Have you even seen Pikmin? Violent deaths by the hundreds! Poor, poor lil' pikmins!

      And are you implying that we should rid libraries of all books containing blood, cuss words, violence and sex? Better get the bible out the libraries then...and Shakespeare...and encyclopedias...
  • Don't listen to anyone named Valdo Funning. Period.
  • by DrSkwid ( 118965 ) on Sunday July 06, 2003 @04:25AM (#6376197) Journal
    'cos my lad does both

    Do *anything* in this country and the local paper can find some fart to say what a bad idea it is.

    I would warrant that this guy hasn't ever enthused his love of literature to young people and encouraged a single one of them to read a single book. I would go as far to speculate that he probably has never even had a conversation with someone under twenty that wasn't in his own family.

    Plenty of people here hate kids, even if they don't couch it in those terms.

    As soon as someone actually tries to do _something_
    the nay sayers come out of the woodwork and tell you what a crap idea it is.

    And then they wonder why their cars are on fire.

    • Well, obviously anybody who has their car on fire must have done something wrong or somebody wouldn't have set it on fire.

      Good gracious! It isn't a matter of hating kids in general. There are some who should be crushed by falling dumpsters, though.

      Here's for putting Playstations out in the middle of busy intersections....

      • Well, obviously anybody who has their car on fire must have done something wrong or somebody wouldn't have set it on fire.

        hehe no :

        society wonders why it's youth just doesn't care

        could it possibly be because society doesn't fucking care about it's youth

        Especially if they don't fit into the school system that is busy getting them ready to go work in the McCain factory for the next 50 years.

        I've worked with kids in some of the shittest places in my county. Wtf are you supposed to say to them :
        "come on k
        • You're supposed to teach them what a narcissist is, and how to avoid being one.
          • 8) I guess that would be one good strand to the bow.

            What one tries to do is widen the horizons and show the young person that there is more to the world than their immediate, uninspiring surroundings, hopefully showing them a more constructive method of expression and maybe even turning the overal picture from despair to hope.

            The destructive urge is often "no-one listens to me". Sadly a translation of this can often mean "one person in particular doesn't take no for an answer and I want it to stop".

            Put t
  • "I was brought up with Treasure Island and Wordsworth and all the great poets, and it gave me a love of those which I still have today at 67. Literature gives you a lifetime of pleasure. I wouldn't have that if I had been playing on a PlayStation."

    This comment has been rated Overly Insightful (-5)
  • by funkmastermike ( 264946 ) on Sunday July 06, 2003 @05:13AM (#6376277)
    Yes um hi.
    I'm going to be checking out this book [amazon.com]
  • by KeyserDK ( 301544 ) on Sunday July 06, 2003 @05:20AM (#6376289) Homepage
    I was brought up with Day of a Tentacle and Sid Meier and all the great game designers, and it gave me a love of those which I still have today at 21. Games gives you a lifetime of pleasure. I wouldn't have that if I had been reading litterature"

    I do enjoy both litterature and gaming. Ofcourse there a crappy games just as there is crappy litterature. But litterature like Day of a Tentacle is something you never forget.

    • That is so true. But there are two problems. The first is that games like that are not made much anymore, and the second problem is that in a few years time you won't be able to replay that game because your hard- and software has become incompatible. Sad but true... Luckily books don't need software.
  • Arrogant Old Fart (Score:3, Interesting)

    by nathanh ( 1214 ) on Sunday July 06, 2003 @06:44AM (#6376397) Homepage
    However, Welsh politician Valdo Funning was more dismissive, saying: "I was brought up with Treasure Island and Wordsworth and all the great poets, and it gave me a love of those which I still have today at 67. Literature gives you a lifetime of pleasure. I wouldn't have that if I had been playing on a PlayStation."

    I grew up with Treasure Island and Lewis Carroll and I loved them. I also grew up with console games and I loved those too. But this dickhead would have you believe that games are inferior. It's the worst form of arrogance; the idea that because he doesn't like it, it mustn't be any good.

    Games are just like books, comics, movies, poetry and any form of entertainment. The great works can influence you for a lifetime.

    • Also- going back to the original subject- games in libraries.

      Where do you think a child is more likely to pickup a taste for reading- at a library, or at home- where when the Playstation (I prefer Xbox, but I don't want to compete here) goes off, Ricki Lake comes on.

      Getting their little butts in the door might be half the battle, one they (library people) are trying to win with a Playstation. Hey- ya gotta try something.

      Go into almost any library today, and see what is drawing people in- for my local li
    • Re:Arrogant Old Fart (Score:3, Interesting)

      by tsa ( 15680 )
      But this dickhead would have you believe that games are inferior.

      When he was 13 there weren't any computers around so he probably doesn't even know what he's talking about.
  • Silence and tranqility reins across the library. The atmosphere of quiet is actually quite imposing as people whisper...

    only to be interupted by a 4 player 40-button mad button bashing combo
  • I had to read a lot of books in Dutch 'high school', both for Dutch and English. Most famous Dutch literature I read was written by authors who had a bad childhood and wanted the rest of Holland to know about it (there are quite a lot of those). O, how terribly were they treated by their fathers! And they were all so different from anybody else! How were they suffocated by their religion! Boring, boring boring. Luckily there are more countries in the world, where people DO know how to write a compelling sto
  • by greenhide ( 597777 ) <`moc.ylkeewellivc' `ta' `todhsalsnadroj'> on Sunday July 06, 2003 @03:09PM (#6378681)
    to dispel their image as scary, boring places
    Does anyone else think this is a strange combination? I'm picturing a horde of young children, walking around with wide, scared eyes, shrieking, "I'm bored! I'm so bored! "
  • "I was brought up with Treasure Island and Wordsworth and all the great poets, and it gave me a love of those which I still have today at 67. Literature gives you a lifetime of pleasure. I wouldn't have that if I had been playing on a PlayStation."

    and you know what? good for you ... doesnt mean you have to start trying to trick other people into being interesting in the same thing. if they want it, they will come ... if they stay away, rest assured they probably werent interested in the first place. oh yea
    • Re:YMMV (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Omestes ( 471991 )
      Eh, not true. I wouldn't have discovered I loved books, if I didn't get suckered into reading by various tricks, now I read foraciously while my peers sit in dark rooms playing crappy sequals all day. How would you know if you love Wordsworth unless you experienced him? How could I want to read Wordsworth BEFORE exporsure? Some odd a priori literary knowledge?

      My mom making me like books, and exposing me to library programs planted a seed, I didn't go there on my own seeking to read the meager philosoph
  • by shippo ( 166521 ) on Monday July 07, 2003 @06:06AM (#6381888)
    A couple of years ago, my local library in Ripon, North Yorkshire, moved to new and very much larger premises, and had a Playstation installed as one of the facilities, fitted with headphones.

    Unfortunately the children using it made so much noise that it was withdrawn after only a few months of service.

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