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br00tus writes
"With the advent of MMORPG's like EverQuest, old-fashioned text-based, free MUD's may seem kind of antiquated. Nevertheless, I've been looking around for a good, free (e.g. not ZMud etc.) MUD client that I can use on Windows and/or UNIX. Any ideas?" Uh,
TinyFugue?
You are in a dark room. (Score:5, Funny)
~~~
You light your torch (Score:2, Funny)
Telnet (Score:5, Funny)
in my day (Score:2)
Granted "my day" wasn't that long ago and everyone else have 486 and pentium desktops that cost less than my transcontinental phone bills in my pursuit of 20 y/o MUDs...
Yeah, for about a minute (Score:4, Funny)
Look at this new 1200 baud modem we got.
Cool.
~hooks it up~
Wow its fast
yep
~1 minute later~
I can't wait for one that goes faster.
Me too.
Try Real Life. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Try Real Life. (Score:5, Funny)
Now, do you really want us role playing geeks to invade real life? You know these people that role play are usually the ones that right your software. Next time you check your X11 log for the last error to see if it's complaining about the mouse or display modes and all you see is runes, you'll learn to appreciate the fact there is a time and place for these fantasies. I personally don't want to have to describe my problem on the mailing lists using Quenya.
Re:Try Real Life. (Score:2)
Re:Try Real Life. (Score:4, Funny)
And the last LAN party I went to, half the systems were infected with Agent Smith virus.
Real Life 1.0 was actually pretty good, but some of the noobs couldn't handle it, so the Architect nerfed it.
I'm not giving up, though. I heard that the server is going to get upgraded any day now with bitching new features, maybe even tonight or tomorrow!
Re:Telnet (Score:2)
KFG
That's nothing... (Score:2)
"clackety, clackety, clack" for hours on end.
Re:Telnet (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Telnet (Score:3, Informative)
You have toGrue slashes you for 10 points of damage!
nYou attempt to bash Grue, but miss!ote that
JohnMary tells you: "woot, ding 14!"trying to type
amid the output of a MU* is an exercise in frustration.
Also, frankly, TinyFugue totally rocks. It manages multiple connections gracefully, it handles all sorts of input and output, it rocks for searching.
It just works really well. It has all the features anyone could want from a MU* program, and it's fre
Telnet and TinyFugue (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Telnet (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Telnet (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Telnet (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Telnet (Score:3, Funny)
Not bongo drums [slashdot.org]?
tintin++? (Score:4, Informative)
check it out [stud.ntnu.no].
Re:tintin++? (Score:2, Interesting)
Yeah. (Score:2)
mmucl (Score:2)
TinyFugue (Score:5, Informative)
And if you have trouble at first: It uses Emacs keybindings -- that means Ctrl-P to go to the last line typed, Ctrl-U to clear the current line, etc.
I use VI! (Score:4, Funny)
I don't know of any ... (Score:5, Informative)
I really liked mcl on *nix, by Erwin Andreasen, but he stopped maintaining it a while ago and I'm not even able to access his homepage right now. A cursory whois on the domain seems to suggest that he has abandoned his former "life". :(
tintin(++) is the old standby, of course.
Re:I don't know of any ... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:I don't know of any ... (Score:2)
I've got a really ancient version of Zmud... let me run over to the windows machine and check... 4.62 16 bit hahah. It works really well though, a great showcase for what you can do with objpascal/Delphi. When I was reduced to one box for awhile I tried to convert to tintin++, but even with a friend that was expert at it a lot of the things I did with Zmud using triggers and functions and the like just couldn't be replicated. Wound up running it under WINE. I agree about the newer versions though - and not
Re:I don't know of any ... (Score:2)
Mcl development was stopped, and someone else took over a fork called "dirt", which I don't believe is in a working state yet.
Re:I don't know of any ... (Score:5, Informative)
Anyway, prompted by mention of this topic on Slashdot I finally got around in releasing a maintenane release of mcl, 0.53.00. It basically fixes all the ancient C++ code that only compiled with 2.95, and also makes the code work with Perl 5.8.0 etc.
Get it from http://www.andreasen.org/mcl/ [andreasen.org] as usual.
For a more modern MUD, non-text-only client, check out Papaya [gtk-papaya.org].
Shameless plug (Score:3, Interesting)
Blood Dusk MUD [dusk.org]
'course it's mine, so I might be a little biased.
MudMaster (Score:5, Informative)
As for *nix, TinTin++ and TinyFugue are excellent, though the sites for those two escape me at the moment.
TF -- Definitely TinyFugue (Score:3, Interesting)
I used it for...far too many years. Try your best to avoid the black hole that is MUD addiction. It just about drummed me out of college. I still fight the urge to go back (I was a long-time player on Duris, as well as some GodWars muds), as the primary MUD I played on is still alive and kicking...as far as I know, at least. Fortunately I haven't checked in on it in almost a year.
Re:TF -- Definitely TinyFugue (Score:2)
I played the original Sojourn like in 1992. I tried Duris after they split (bad move?), but it wasn't the same (and neither was Toril).
I was "Warony". Cleric.
FYI, the lead designer of EQ, Brad McQuaid, played Sojourn aka "Aradune" or something such. Ranger. EQ felt exactly like Sojourn...making it highly successful and extremely boring for someone who played the real thing.
Re:TF -- Definitely TinyFugue (Score:2)
I never did play on Toril or Sojourn. I started probably a couple months after Duris started up, brought in by a friend who had played on both Toril and Sojourn before that.
Re:TF -- Definitely TinyFugue (Score:2)
Zoc (Score:2)
It's not just for muds, but it's great.
VT100 term with ansi color (ala Putty) (Score:2)
Plain color Ansi, was pretty fun. TradeWars was also ansi, we would chat in game also. Now its all IRC, which works for me, when Im playing a game, Im too busy to chat.
Not sure about Multi-User (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Not sure about Multi-User (Score:3, Informative)
Er... rogue-a-likes and MUDs are very different styles of games, with MUDs being closer to chatrooms set in a fantasy world.
MUD is NOT MSN-Chat (tm)! (Score:3, Informative)
rogue-a-likes and MUDs are very different styles of games, with MUDs being closer to chatrooms set in a fantasy world.
Man.. Don't even dare to similate MUD with chatrooms. To the parent poster (and anyone else, ocourse), I'd rather explain that MUDs are very similar to the Zork/Infocom games.
Yes, I know, it's still not quite the same, but closer than a chatroom..
Note; I had no intent to flame your post, but this is how I see it..
tkMOO-light (Score:3, Informative)
MUD clients (Score:4, Insightful)
-- The only relevant client. XML storage,
full scripting in multiple languages,
triggers, macros, aliases.
www.gammon.com.au
Lin: TinTin++.
-- Only if you're too much of a pansy for
telnet.
Re:MUD clients (Score:2)
Re:MUD clients (Score:5, Insightful)
E_elven wrote: Only if you're too much of a pansy for telnet.
I've never understood this "Real men use crappy tools" philosophy. It is perfectly possible to MUD with telnet --- I recommend turning "scroll to bottom on TTY output" OFF in your xterm --- but anyone with two brain cells to rub together should be able to realise that MUD clients are better. Even if you just use TinyFugue out of the box, you still get basically the same interface as with telnet, but with a couple of lines separated off for text entry and better scrollback support.
(I get these same emotions whenever I see someone proudly claiming that they make their web pages in notepad... I want to go up to them and beat them with a stick until they realise that notepad is complete crap. Just because Microsoft doesn't give you a good text editor doesn't mean you can't go and find one yourself! Use gvim or emacs or ultraedit or just about _anything_ else...
Ahem.
Sorry.</rant>
)Re:MUD clients (Score:2)
Re:MUD clients (Score:3, Insightful)
Pay for zMUD (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Pay for zMUD (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Pay for zMUD (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Pay for zMUD (Score:2)
GF.
Here it is (Score:3, Informative)
It's free. You can't lose by trying it out. If you hate it, try something else.
GF.
Re:Pay for zMUD - Mud Admin's Perspective (Score:3, Informative)
I personally mud in ZMud 5.55. I abhor 6.66 (er, 6.62) like the devil. I used 4.62 for years until it crashed enough to drive me to upgrade. 4.62 may be "free", but your odds of getting the automapper to work without crashing are roughly 50/50. That's one of the troubles with ZMud--the hit-and-miss nature of upgrading.
The mud I code for/play on (riftsmud.net 4000 [riftsmud.net]) has MSP support (Mud Sound Protocol). At least from what I've seen, MSP requires the player to separately download the sound files (.wav usu
gMud (Score:2, Insightful)
Exaurdon!
ask google, not slashdot? (Score:5, Interesting)
P
Re:ask google, not slashdot? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:ask google, not slashdot? (Score:2)
Trebucket TK (Score:4, Informative)
Main page here [belfry.com].
TF (Score:3, Insightful)
Why? (Score:3, Troll)
that's why... (Score:2)
Re:Why? (Score:2)
You're right, though. Despite what people say, there is very much such a thing as a stupid question. I'd define it as one that could be easily answered with a minimum of thought and/or effort on the part of the questioner.
Re:Why? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Why? (Score:5, Insightful)
Theoretically, I could have downloaded 30 MUD clients, many wanting me to download PERL for Windows, or TCL/TK for Windows, or GNOME for Windows, or whatever, just to look at it, but I figured I would ask here. Have people here rallied around a Windows MUD client that is free as in beer and as in speech, that doesn't need a normal user to download Cygwin, TCL/TK, PERL and so forth for Windows, compile it and so forth, that is still actively updated? If so, I haven't seen it. That confirms my suspicion - that there is no good, free (as in beer and speech) MUD client for Windows, or at least one that you can download that doesn't require you to transmogrify your Windows box into a UNIX - I'm better off just using a UNIX then anyway.
You're assuming that anyone using Google or Freshmeat will find what they're looking for. I didn't. So now I'm asking as a last resort, before I possibly even begin writing one (that is beer and speech free) myself, if I have the spare time to do such a thing.
MUSHclient (Score:2)
Re:MUSHclient (Score:2)
Alternatively, you could cough up $20 to avoid the wait. Plus, the $20 goes to someone who has developed a kick ass alternative to zmud and gmud.
MUSHclient supports tons of scripting, triggers, aliases, macros, etc. I highly recommend it.
What's a MUD? (Score:2)
With all the slashdotting and urpmi'ing I just don't get around as much as I used to..
Re:What's a MUD? (Score:5, Informative)
More complete answer? It varies. As someone above pointed out, they range from Role-Play Only (I.e., no code.. glorified (if even that) chat room) to Hack-N'-Slash (Everquest without pretty pictures). Also, a lot of times the word "MUD" includes MUSHs (Multi-User-Shared-Hallucination/-Simulated-Hell)
Re:What's a MUD? (Score:2)
Sounds like many years ago we played a text based star trek game over 300buad modems, it was like two people playing battleship.
20 something years ago it was fun..
Re:What's a MUD? (Score:2)
The only client I'll use (Score:3, Informative)
They're not low on features, as you can easily add triggers, variables, aliases, and such.
Here's a link for each client:
tintin++ [stud.ntnu.no]
Wintin95 [wintin.org]
Hope you find them to your liking.
powwow (Score:2)
Re:powwow (Score:2)
gnome_mud (Score:2, Informative)
maybe before that question... (Score:2)
Telix Memories (Score:2)
Obviously, the best MUD client is... (Score:3, Funny)
EQ database? (Score:2)
any suggestions?
GMudix (Score:2)
KDE Mud Client (Score:2)
If it's a graphical MUD client and you're using KDE or Windows, might I suggest XPertMUD [sourceforge.net]. It can be extended using Python or Perl, with multiple windows, triggers, macros and so forth.
Google knows not. (Score:5, Insightful)
To all those recommending google, since when does google have a good-ometer? It gives you hints, and might even come up with a list of all MUD clients available, but usually it is the product/project pages and not reviews.
As for freshmeat and version tracker, yes they have ratings, and for that they are good place to start. But when you get to niche software like this, the best place is to ask the community surrounding the niche.
While slashdot readers do overlap, you best answers will be from more focused mailing list (or, in this case, those you meet in the MUDs). The same could be said of most Ask Slashdot questions. But, then again, if we did that, we'd never ask slashdot dot.
If you're going to reply "ask google" to every "ask slashdot", then please just edit your slashdot profile to ignore the section. We don't need your comments or your moderations.
Anm
JMC r0x0rs my s0x0rs (Score:2)
Shameless plug time:
Everwar [everwar.net] is quite simply the best PK mud out there. Check it out if you like alignment-based playerkilling with an emphasis on teamwork. Immortal staff is friendly and helpful, and usually online. And it works great with Jaba. See for yourself. [everwar.net]
Zmud, and Anomaly (Score:2)
As for games, there are quite a few popular ones out there. Sure nowhere near Everquest amounts of players. But since when is Everquest about actual RolePlay? With advances in coding, a lot today's Mu* are much closer to the tabletop RPG experience.
A great example is for anyone who has ever played Last Unicorn Games version of the Star Trek: The Ne
Yeah, but what is the best MUD (Score:3, Interesting)
Thanks!
TF rulez. (Score:2)
For all mare lovers out there, feel free to test it on telnet://lintilla.df.lth.se:5010 - talker about zoophilia
There was wintin (Score:2)
Forgot to say (Score:2)
MuckClient (Score:2)
Spell checker
case sensitive help
Hyperlink detection
Clickable hyperlinks
Option to conceal program while at work
Option to disable URL detection - (useful if mucking from work)
Option to disable ansi colours in game - (useful if mucking from work)
Macros
Highlights
Gags
Complete colour customisation
Advanced Command History
Save complete session text
Load from file
Record partial session
Auto login for sessions using the "Connect name password"
TinyFugue, PowWow, PowTTY... (Score:4, Informative)
If you use only Windows, Zmud is (1) not free (2) quite slow compared to other alternatives. You might then go for JMC (which is lightning fast, has built-in simple scripting, and can use VBscript and other nasty things with plugins).
If you want to MUD from UNIX and Windows, you could try PowWow when using UNIX and PowTTY when using Windows (PowTTY is really the PowWow engine combined with PuTTY, the famous SSH client).
Finally, I noticed that the most important things in a client are (from my point of view) :
I also ask a few more things from my client (and here is why I wrote mine) : be able to handle random socket connections (to connect to an IRC server or to a group communication server), be able to load images and pan them (to view and scroll the maps from the client, with single keypresses - note that you can also be clever and use Eterm backgrounds for that : Eterm has support for escape sequences to load/scroll backgrounds!), and powerful scripting (I use Python).
Last thing : I don't know what people call "powerful scripting", but for me, it's the possibility to do basically anything and without much hassle ;-) for instance looking up name of people you meet in a SQL database, or storing the list of your equipment in internal variables and popup windows, or analyzing your XP rate or the average amount of damage you do with each different weapon versus each different monster, etc.
Mud client review page (Score:5, Informative)
Pick one that has lots of YESs in its line, like Crystal [evilmagic.org] for example.
CLIO (Score:3, Informative)
Can't believe noone mentioned that yet.
Re:Answered in post (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Slow day today? (Score:2)
Re:MegaMUD (Score:2)
-R
Um... Everquest? (Score:2)
Re:This is about the dumbest slashdot news item ev (Score:2)
It's "Ask Slashdot", not a news item.
Do you want to play again? [N/n]
Re:This is about the dumbest slashdot news item ev (Score:2)
Unless of couse the whole thing is just some kind of in joke then of course I feel like a complete idiot for not getting it.
Geeks that run tech sites don't get a lot of opportunities to mention MUDs. By their very nature, they tend not to innovate in very extravagant and news worthy ways, but they're still a lot of fun and many of them are much deeper and fairer than the average
Re:If it's all that dumb (Score:3)
Your search -- someone who cares what I think -- does not match any documents.
No one was found who cares what you think.
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Re:What was that game? (Score:2)
graspee
Re:MUDs? (Score:2)
Wow! That's an excellent question! I suggest you submit it as a story for "Ask Slashdot"!
graspee
Re:Telnet (Score:2)