Marvel Focuses On Games, Trails New Titles 48
Thanks to Gamesindustry.biz for its article discussing Marvel's renewed focus on videogames based on their properties, with the announcement of "a new division [that] will oversee the creation of all games based on Marvel licenses", ensuring quality control. These products will still be licensed out to external developers/publishers, however, and the announcement press release lists previous and future titles, including Spider-Man II, X-Men Legends, Fantastic Four, and Iron Man from Activision, The Punisher from THQ, and The Hulk II from Vivendi. The GI.biz article also notes: "One of the most exciting products in the pipeline for the company... [is another] Vivendi title - a massively multiplayer game featuring a wide range of different elements from the 'Marvel Universe', which encompasses the entire spectrum of the company's franchises" - this MMO title will doubtless be compared to Cryptic/NCSoft's unlicensed, currently Beta-testing City Of Heroes. What as yet unused Marvel property do you think would make the best videogame?
They need to be done Right! (Score:5, Insightful)
You could make a metroid prime-like version of spiderman for example. You go through his early history and as you do so, you unlock his powers or learn to use them better (Start as normal, get spider reflexes (high jump, good dodge), web (grapple technique), etc).
The fantastic 4 could do something like secret of mana, where there's computer (or co-op multiplayer) control for the other characters.
The problem with the Marvel games is that they go with a frequently used formula (sort of like romantic comedies or action flicks in Hollywood) and fail to capitalize on their singular stregnth as marvel games -- the ability to have a storyline and likeable characters.
Re:They need to be done Right! (Score:2)
I hear the "NERD ALERT!" klaxon going off. Sorry about the noise.
Dr. Strange (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Dr. Strange (Score:2)
I too would enjoy opening up a giant can of Crimson Bands of Cyttorak on somebody's ass.
Re:Dr. Strange (Score:2)
I have an almost complete run of the Dr Strange from the 80s (not too hard...only something like 83 issues) that I can't give away as bird cage lining.
I could use a hot new video game to drum up some interest, maybe a movie to tie-in.
Tom Cruise is Stephen Strange, Master of the Mystic Arts. Halle Berry...nah, they already have her as Storm. Ok, Monica Bellucci is Clea, the Dr's faithful disciple and eye candy. Kyle Gass as Wong, Stephen's 'life partner'. And in an uncredited cameo, Christopher Walk
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There is an unused Marvel property? (Score:3, Interesting)
It's pretty much a given that Marvel isnt interested in their unused properties. The properties that are out there are working well, are selling, and will continue to appeal to a broad slice of their target audience. The Hulk, Spiderman, X-Men... all winners! Even the Fantastic Four is getting a new shot, although the only success I ever saw for them outside of the comics was in the Fox cartoon in the 90s. Marvel has been exploiting their comic characters on TV since the 60s (or earlier?), and with video games since the 80s. They're certainly not going to take a break now that they've broken into the mainstream with hit movies.
Fortunately for Marvel, they've a huge universe of characters and stories to draw from. This doesnt make them any more special than anyone else who wants to licence a story to make a game, mind you... but for the Marvel fans, rest assured that no matter who your favorite character may be, he or she will end up costing you even more money in the form of a new video game.
Re:There is an unused Marvel property? (Score:3)
Whether they were good or not (they weren't), Marvel has done an Iron Man cartoon, a Nick Fury movie relatively recently (and another one on at least the drawing board), a Captain America movie and even a terrible Fantastic Four movie. So, they're not ignoring entirely their lesser used characters.
I see this move by Marvel as something that can only imp
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(FWIW, I read both FF and Action.)
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Does anyone read submissions? (Score:1, Troll)
Are Marvel stalking recent games? Is that what this means?
Marvel Online woes (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, VU had an AMAZING demo of marvel online worked up by a proven MMO developer. The design would have called for all sorts of nifty features including unique sub-areas, zones of influence, and the ability to play as just about any sort of character (not just hero/villian!) within the marvel universe.
Alas, due to some extremely shady politics in the upper levels of the company, the project was pulled, the entire production staff was let go, and the developer was left hanging (after putting mucho deneiro and time in to the project).
This had NOTHING to do with the quality of the project as anyone who saw the tech demo could attest.
I wouldn't hold my breath for this one folks.
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The "cosmic" ones (Score:3, Interesting)
Dang, now I wish I still had some of those comics around right now.
Re:The "cosmic" ones (Score:2, Interesting)
iron man (halo-ish), punisher (gta-ish), nightcrawler (x2 intro sequence meets splinter cell)... hell maybe even a bit of ghost rider.
going for their older IP is probably not going to bring in Marvel that much cash. Particularly with their track record in games. If it isn't a good game it'll be a complete disaster - unlike their current bad games with headlining characters *cough*wolverine*c
Not mentioned yet (Score:4, Insightful)
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two different avenues that they should consider:
(instead of just the current mode of licensing away to unproven developers with their own gameplay ideas)
the Simpsons method: license the IP to an unproven developer, but with the intent to exactly duplicate the gameplay of popular titles
1 word... (Score:1)
or maybe Namor... God, I hate Namor...
DC are you listening? (Score:2, Interesting)
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Unused is a relative term... (Score:5, Insightful)
My sister-- just two years younger than me, and I'm going on 25-- is big into comics of late. Marvel especially, and the "X-Men Evolution" series currently airing on Kids WB in particular. I picked up the hard-bound "Ultimate X-Men vol. 1" for her for Christmas, and she was thrilled. So was I-- complain all you want, but the series is damn good. As I was reading it, though, I took a look at the production notes, as they were. The writers and artists felt that having thirty years of backstory-- some of it contradictory, some of it ludicrous, and some of it just plain factually wrong-- was starting to wear down the appeal of the X-Men franchise. The ensemble was bringing in new fans, but these fans-- some of whom had never picked up a comic book in their entire lives-- were quickly turned off because they just plain didn't have a clue what was going on, what all the characters were referencing.
Marvel had tried putting new life into its series before-- the "What-Ifs" are the only thing I can remember as being mentioned int he notes, but I'm sure someone will come to my memory's aid (ha ha [slashdot.org]). Those hadn't turned out as well as they'd expected. So the writers basically said, "dump it all, let's just start over."
And wouldn't you know it, but it works. The familiar stories are there-- X-Men versus the Sentinels, Magneto's big thing, the Savage Land-- they're just told in a different, new, and damn spiffy way. It might not sound like it would be a big seller-- but combined with the media blitz Marvel's been going through, the series has proven pretty successful.
So build on that.
Based on the success of the "Ultimate" series (an "Ultimate Spider-Man" is also out), it would be kind of logical to use that material to make a good adventure game or even an RPG. You just know that BioWare's been contacted at least once-- look what they did for Star Wars; don't you think they could handle something like KOTOR, but with the X-Men theme? You might not get the old, die-hard, "I'll never let go of 300 back issues worth of story" fans, but you will get newer, fresher blood. And you can stretch that out for a good three, four games as the story arcs evolve and progress.
Might be worth a look, from a gamer's standpoint, too. But then again, maybe that's just the wild ramblings of a young pup who never got to read X-Men until he was in college.
Re:Unused is a relative term... (Score:1)
Seriously though, you may look into X-Men Legends [gamespot.com], it's been in development now for awhile, (Should probably be coming out soon, I'd think, unless it's been cancelled) and it's an RP
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Maybe it already exists (Score:3, Interesting)
I mean seriously, you clean up a Max Paine like play style, throw it onto a good engine and it pretty much writes itself. Do it right and you'd have a pretty damn good game. And for multiplayer, there are dozens of stock Marvel characters that pretty much just run around toting firepower of some form or another. Give each one a different set of bonuses / abilities and throw people into the fray.
Also, if I were the Marvel guys, I'd be on the phone right now talking to the guys who did Prince of Persia, begging them to use the same game mechanics and whatsits for a Daredevil or Spiderman game. (Or better, any of those uber-vixens that Spiderman and/or Daredevil seem to hook up with. Electra, Silver Sable, Black Cat etc.) Prince of Persia was brilliant on pretty much every level, but you apply that kind of fluidity of movement, acrobatics, excellent fighting and it's almost already a Spiderman or Daredevil game.
Another good video game concept is the Secret Wars. I didn't read the series - during the 80's I was a DC fan: Firestorm, Big Blue, Batman, the Justice League, Green Lantern, the Flash... Marvel didn't just didn't connect with me as much back then - and to be completely honest the whole idea sounded a little on the contrived side. But for a video game it has potential. Pick from a stock list of heroes; go up against villians on a battleground of some advanced alien world. Lots of potential for an interesting combined strategy / action game. Maybe hard to pull off - but if it was done right it could be a really great game.
As for DC, why they haven't done something with Deathstroke the Terminator is completely beyond me. Cool, underused character who lends perfectly to a video game concept.
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Pitfalls of franchise MMO games (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Pitfalls of franchise MMO games (Score:2)
I think I read somewhere that Anarchy Online was being compared to Shadowrun at first. But, as we all know, it is nowhere near Shadowrun's greatness.
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Some Ideas... (Score:3, Interesting)
- An Iron Man flight/combat sim, especially one with a view from inside the mask. Great tech-weaponry based game it could be, with all of the gadgets Tony Stark has in that armor (repulsors, radar tracking devices, etc...the list goes on). Being able to fight in the air or an the ground from that first person perspective would be awesome, and there's a nice list of villains to fight, Dr. Doom and HIS armor (and hey, even his magic) immiedietly coming to mind.
- A Silver Surfer game with cosmic themes could be incredible. Largely a first person combat game, but with villains like Terrax, Thanos, and Galactus (hey, even Mephisto) you've got endless possibilities there.
But what I'd REALLY like to see is....
- Avengers vs. JLA; hey, if Marvel and DC can team up on the fabulous series they're currently making (the only reasons this 35 year old has been to a comic book store lately, too), they can do it for the game as well. And I think it'd sell like mad. The comics featured some long awaited matchups we've always dreamt about, like Superman vs. Thor, Batman vs. Captain America. Wouldn't it be fantastic to see that in a game?
Whatever they do... (Score:2)
Apocalypse (Score:1)
Not unused, but underused.... (Score:1)