Linux & Mac UT2004 Demos 328
Jacek Fedorynski writes "A Linux version of the Unreal Tournament 2004 demo is now available. There's also a Mac version."
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." -- Albert Einstein
Linux games (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Linux games (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Linux games (Score:4, Funny)
The original runs great on my laptop (16MB Radeon Mobility video), but UT2004 is barely playable under Direct3D, even at the lowest resolution and texture settings. Performance using the SW renderer was even worse.
As luck would have it, I recently upgraded HER machine with a 128MB Radeon 9200, and UT2004 runs like a champ there.
Guess she gets to win for a while
Re:Linux games (Score:2)
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Re:Linux games (Score:4, Funny)
Sounds like you're both winning.
Though if it's hurting that much, maybe you should do it less often.
Re:Linux games (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Linux games (Score:4, Insightful)
~D
Software renderer (Score:4, Informative)
You aren't missing too much. (Score:5, Insightful)
2k4's readdition of assault puts a smile in my heart, especially since they put in an actual sniper rifle instead of the awful, awful lightning gun, but most people are going to be playing the rather boring onslaught mode because of the vehicles (the new thing all FPS's MUST HAVE).
To me onslaught is just Unreal2k4 pretending it's Battlefield 1942 and Halo.
Epic: "Hey wait! Please don't go! We can put in vehicles too! See!? Please buy it....please?
Re:You aren't missing too much. (Score:3)
My six year old daughter says many of the same things; she vastly prefers the original UT to UT2K3. We'll see what she thinks of 2K4.
Re:You aren't missing too much. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Linux games (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Linux games (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Linux games (Score:2)
Re:Linux games (Score:2, Interesting)
Ported to the big three (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Ported to the big three (Score:5, Funny)
LAN party at Kethinov's house!
Re:Ported to the big three (Score:2)
I _am_ having a LAN party this weekend at my apartment and a) I didn't know which game to play b) I didn't think I'd be able to make use of my Linux box or my GFs Powerbook.
Now I got both the game and two more computers to use.
THANK YOU GOD!
Re:Ported to the big three (Score:2)
Valve take note (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Valve take note (Score:4, Interesting)
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for making games available on as many platforms as possible. And it's really nice to see that we're starting to see not just Win/Mac OR Win/Linux but rather Win/Mac/Linux in the few cases that do go to the extra work, which should start tipping the balance and making it financially reasonable to do the extra work.
However, concidering the strains Valve is currently under, I'd rather see them stay focused and still exist next year as opposed to blowing a ton of cash just to appease you and a few others, and ending up folding because of it.
It'll come, I'm quite sure of it...I'm sure we can all see the sun rising on the horizon now.
As an aside, if you're going to read the reviews and buy the single best FPS (Assuming you wait until HL2 is actually released), how could you possibly choose a basically multiplayer only 4th time rehash over a game that looks to be somewhat revolutionary in many aspects?
Not that UT4 is no good, by any means, but it does only represent incremental improvements over what they have done before.
Really, I don't think you're being honest with yourself. As I see it, you have absolutely no reason to mention HL2 in your post as you've essentially already decided that you will only be purchasing a single FPS this year that must run on Linux.
Re:Valve take note (Score:5, Insightful)
However, that is like saying that my vote does not elect a president. By itself, no it does not. But collectively, it does, assuming a properly run election. To come back to software purchases though, I believe that the desktop market is already starting to diversify enough for gaming companies to at least give consideration to platforms other than Wintel.
I would also agree that given Valve's current position, the timing probably isn't right for them to do this. In an open market, Epic, id and others are able to capitalize on this. As I stated earlier, I don't buy a lot of games. Tradeoffs have to be made. So I look at what I like about these games - engaging multiplayer gameplay, strong mod communities to increase replayability, drop dead graphics - from where I stand, these two titles are pretty evenly matched. Not having to install a Windows partition tips the scales for me, enough for me to reward Epic over Valve with my purchasing dollars.
Re:Ported to the big three (Score:2, Funny)
Nice! (Score:5, Informative)
Wait, wait... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Wait, wait... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Wait, wait... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Wait, wait... (Score:2)
That's the killer app that will convert everyone my friends
Re:Wait, wait... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Wait, wait... (Score:5, Funny)
You see, in the case of the Mac they can run games but won't run them before they've been properly beta tested by Windows users. Once enough of them have called for technical support and a majority of their problems have been worked out then, and only then will the Mac conceed to running a game.
Linux is like that too.
Re:Wait, wait... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Wait, wait... (Score:3, Informative)
DracoSoftware review (Score:3, Informative)
~D
Bittorrent here! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Bittorrent here! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Bittorrent here! (Score:2, Informative)
Parent is for a Windows torrent (Score:2)
BeOS? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:BeOS? (Score:2, Funny)
Forget BeOS, what about a GeOS version?!?!
Re:BeOS? (Score:4, Funny)
Man, I've been waiting _years_ for a new game to come out for that!
Re:BeOS? (Score:2)
Shortly after they release the OS/2... I mean, eComStation version.
Great... (Score:4, Funny)
This isn't going to help any...
Thanks, thanks a lot.
Re:Great... (Score:2)
HTTP goes slower when lots of people are using it. BitTorrent goes faster when lots of people are using it. Right tool for the job...
[...he says, starting the download on his work computer, and going home for the weekend...]
Bit Torrent (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Doesn't mount (Score:2)
Re:Doesn't mount (Score:3, Informative)
I just managed to get this working. I rebooted my mac, ran Disk Utility, did a 'verify' then 'repair' on the image, then mounted the image through Disk Utility. Worked like a charm.
Hopefully this will help others who are experiencing the corrupted
This is great... (Score:4, Funny)
This is not right (Score:5, Insightful)
If this keeps up, pretty soon the old Slashdot saying " I run Windows for my games" will be obsolete and you guys won't have an excuse to support Microsoft anymore.
Re:This is not right (Score:5, Interesting)
In the real game world right now, for most games, the best solution is to run Win98Lite for playing games, and Linux or FreeBSD for serving them.
Re:This is not right (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:This is not right (Score:3, Interesting)
Even worse, the very few games there are have fallen badly into disrepair.
I bought pretty much every game released by Hyperion, Loki, Sirtech and Vicarious. Nearly 2 dozen titles. Half of them don't work on a modern (Debian/unstable) x86 installation. I found 5 of the Loki games were ported to PPC; only 1 of those still works (Heroes 3). This isn't a Linux specific problem. The few DOS games I own (eg, X-Wing) don't work on any modern Microsoft
Re:This is not right (Score:3, Insightful)
Is the UT Linux client a "good thing"? Absolutely. I love Linux, run it on all my servers (and my desktop) at work, and I'd like to see some penetration to the home market.
But just because ONE new game has a Linux port doesn't mean I can throw my WinXP box out the window.
Personally, I'm waiting for the day when all my gaming needs are satisfied by consoles. *THEN* I can get rid of Windows and run Linux on my home PC. And I think console gam
Re:This is not right (Score:2)
Go back to Gamespot little boy, come back when your ready to play real games with the big boys =)
Re:This is not right (Score:5, Funny)
I have to keep reminding my boss of that.
"What's that you're playing there?"
"It's, um, it's a system administration system tool system! Yes, that's it! Look, [Ctrl-Alt-F1] it's on Linux! No games, remember!"
"Ah, yes, that's okay then. Carry on."
Phew.
Re:This is not right (Score:3, Funny)
When asked why you are playing a video game on the production server you can just say that you had to kill a few processes that had become stale.
Re:This is not right (Score:3, Informative)
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Re:This is not right (Score:3, Insightful)
Linux, on the
Re:This is not right (Score:2)
Like <whisper> Photoshop?
Re:This is not right (Score:3, Insightful)
If Linux had the same quantity of games available as Windows, my productivity would drop back down to virtually nothing. Sure, Savage and Enemy Territory offer unlimited replay value but sooner or later you get bored with the same games and go back to work.
Re:This is not right (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Great logic there. (Score:3, Insightful)
Give it up for Assault! (Score:5, Insightful)
Here's to hoping there is some level in UT2004 that provides as much fun as "Overlord" did in the original UT!
Re:Give it up for Assault! (Score:5, Interesting)
Assault mode is back. Onslaught mode, simliar to capture-the-way-point like in Battlefield 1942 and Day of Defeat (HL mod) is addictive as caramal-covered crack bon-bons.
The weapons are already ridiculously balanced in the demo. The mini-gun is like the original UT. The gameplay feels like the original UT, and even the theme music is similar.
I love it.
Hardware + Software = happiness (Score:5, Interesting)
If that's not improvement, then I don't know what is...
Re:Hardware + Software = happiness (Score:2, Funny)
a PC?
And great Mac performance (Score:4, Informative)
I've got a Dual G5 2.0 with the BTO Radeon 9800 card, attached to the 23" Cinema HD display. Running Halo on it was fun, but I had to stick to 800x600 or so to get semi-decent performance, and even then fps would drop down to like 1-2 if I died near an explosion or something. UT2004 runs at the native 1920x1200 of the display wickedly fast (never noticed the frame rate getting low enough to notice), and looks great.
It's striking to be able to play a game on a Mac with absolutely no performance issues! Been a long time since that happened for me!
Thanks Ryan @ Icculus! (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Thanks Ryan @ Icculus! (Score:2)
Hopefully with a big bonus too... I'd never heard of this game before, but damn, if it runs on Linux, I want some games which run on Linux...
I've almost finished MythII as well. Let's try a shooter.
does it work with video != nVidia? (Score:4, Interesting)
UT2k3 relied on some X extensions that weren't available from XFree86. If you didn't have either one of the expensive versions of X or an nVidia card with the closed-source kernel module, you were out of luck.
Re:does it work with video != nVidia? (Score:5, Informative)
Uhhhh... Both the closed-source ATI driver (for R200+R300 cards) and the open source R200 driver (maybe the R100 driver, but I haven't tried it) have worked with UT2k3 for a while now.
Dinivin
Re:does it work with video != nVidia? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:does it work with video != nVidia? (Score:2)
We'll know soon enough. (Score:2)
Mac users, go to the FasterMac mirror (Score:3, Informative)
Mirror (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.scifience.net/ut2004/mac/
They charge $1 to cover bandwidth costs, but I found that it was worth it (I got 1500 KB/s).
Addons not compatible, if history is any indicator (Score:4, Interesting)
...arguably the most important of which was "UTPure", an anti-cheat mechanism.
Does anyone know if that were a big issue with UT2K3?
From a dual 1.8 G5 user (Score:5, Interesting)
Looking forward to the retail version, and many hours of cross-platform goodness. My PC friends might actually like me again.
Re:From a dual 1.8 G5 user (Score:5, Funny)
Re:From a dual 1.8 G5 user (Score:4, Funny)
Come on, you have to blame someone! This is Slashdot!
What's in the download (Score:5, Informative)
6 maps
The new Onslought game type
Assault is back!!
Voice chat
Turrets
New levels
Sniper rifle is back
Voice recognition (bot commands)
I've heard reports of, but haven't seen yet for UT2K4:
Vehicles
New weapons (spider mines)
Anti-Vehicle rockets
Nade launcher
Play from laptop!!!
~D
Re:What's in the download (Score:2)
Note that the vehicles are only available in the Onslaught game type.
I am REALLY liking Onslaught mode. Those vehicles rock. The bots seem a little too good at picking off the air units though.
Mechanik
Re:What's in the download (Score:5, Informative)
It's funny - some of the initial reviews I read complained that the vehicles were done badly. I couldn't agree less - the ground vehicles need a little tweaking, but those air units bring me right back to the days of Tribes 2.
The vehicles also don't destroy balance, which is a good thing. A guy on the ground can take out air units and light vehicles pretty easily, and airborne units can destroy tanks extremely quickly. But, then again, five guys coming down on you with buggies is going to result in you dead, which makes sense.
The AI is good at blowing up air units if:
1. You stay still or move slowly.
2. You fly predictably.
If you move like a fox and jink, they generally don't get you.
Interestingly, I also found the Assault map to be fantastic. You've got optional switches and "special events" (airstrike). There's also the cool cutscene at the beginning showing you exactly how to do the map.
Is the Ion Painter (oribital strike) weapon in the demo at all?
-Erwos
I'm holding out (Score:3, Funny)
The OS/2 community will NOT disappear into the night without a fight!
Icculus can now sleep! (Score:2)
Linux & Mac Users vs Windows Users? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Linux & Mac Users vs Windows Users? (Score:2)
Ahh, the golden days of FPS gaming.....
Re:Linux & Mac Users vs Windows Users? (Score:2)
Of Servers and Web Admin (Score:2)
I am running apache on port 80, but have changed the port for it to
Honor whom honor due (Score:2, Interesting)
I had to pratice 3-4 weeks to actually survive longer than 30 seconds in the public servers but it got me hooked.
I have come to think of UT and its fo
Valentine vs. UT2K4 (Score:4, Insightful)
Uhh.. me. But aside from that, I would suggest that all those with the option of spending Valentine's with their SO or with UT2K4 choose their SO (mostly, for their own well-being)
On a tangent, I would much rather have an SO than another FPS. Why?
The FPS genre is becoming saturated. UT2K4? Ho-hum, really. Just a few new ways to gib your buddies. I have not seen a lot of innovation in the FPS market... look at the glut of WW2 FPSes alone!
With an SO, one must ALWAYS be innovative. If you look at it like a game, you must always be on your toes. Can't respawn, must play smart, must always devise new tactics -- I can think of no game that requires as much out of the player.
Ah, well
RMS (Score:5, Funny)
And somewhere an unconventional fellow with long hair and a beard feels joy about this game for a different reason than other people...
gentoo ebuild (Score:3, Funny)
Re:gentoo ebuild (Score:3, Informative)
Mac users - disconnect iSight (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Mirrors anyone? (Score:5, Informative)
Click here for client goodness... [spack.nu]
Ender -
Re:So... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Manta (Score:3, Interesting)
It's just one mutator away.
Re:It's probably there (Score:3, Informative)
I was a little weary of messing with the config(or console for that matter) as I've always been more of a quaker.
Try A3D support instead (Score:3, Informative)