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Commodore 64 To Get 30-In-1 TV Game 73

Lee writes "According to Peek N' Poke, there's an official Commodore 64 30-in-1 'TV game' in development, according to current C64 rights-holders Tulip Computers, who has a Dutch-language news story about it on their site." The Tulip story mentions titles including "Classic Games series from Epyx, inclusief Summer Games, Winter Games, World Games en the seminal California Games", and it's notable that Tulip's partner and exclusive C64 licensor is Ironstone Partners, who also list as a "sister company" DC Studios, software developers of the Atari 10-in-1 TV game.
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Commodore 64 To Get 30-In-1 TV Game

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  • hacking it.. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by greywire ( 78262 ) on Wednesday April 28, 2004 @01:14PM (#8997908) Homepage
    will it be possible to hack the unit to allow use of arbitrary c64 software? Would we be able to hook up a keyboard and such to make a mini portable C64?

    • Just curious but why would you want a portable C64? I mean I loved He-Man as much as the next guy but what would you do with a portable C64?

      Where would you stick your floppy?
    • Geez, just go download any one of the myriad C64 emulators available.
      • This is something that the average joe can buy at Wal-Mart, and just plug it in and play. No worrying about which emulator works the best (and many emulators are crippleware, unless you shell out $20), trying to find and download roms (and the associated legal/ethical dilemmas), etc. Plus, if I had something like this, I could just hand it to my kids and not have to worry about them messing up my computer. Or have the kids tying up my computer while daddy wants to play "big kid" videogames.

        I would also
  • Anyone hear of plans for an Atari 400/800 game device like this?
    • These things are really just mini NES consoles. The games are ports, so it will end up being no more a c64 then atari or anything else. kvn
  • Does anyone know where I can get the connections between C64 and a TV? I believe that it is the same connection that my Radio Shack Pong system uses. I would like to be able to use both of these. (Don't you think that a pong tournament would augment an 80s party?) Do these special games/controllers allow for 2 players, like some of the upcoming Atari games will?
  • by mahdi13 ( 660205 ) <> on Wednesday April 28, 2004 @01:30PM (#8998093) Journal
    That whole "Games" series was bad. Why put them all together like this? What are the other 23 games on it?
    With any luck they will be other great EA games from the time like "Monster Construction Set" "Pinball Construction Set" "Archon" "Seven Cities of Gold" "Arctic Fox" "Caveman Ugh-lympics" "Wasteland"
    Just to name a few. Has anyone seen Monster Construction Set anywhere but the C64? It was one of those great R3 games where you customize a monster and send him to fight other monsters for prize money to build better monsters...
    • Monster Construction Set? I can only assume you mean Mail Order Monsters, my all time favorite C-64 game. My brother and I played that so much... Can't wait for my son to be old enough to play games with me! :)
      • Oh man, Thanks! I knew I should of dug it out of the box as I could not find it listed anywhere!
        Mail Order Monsters was the second most played game on my Commodore, next to Wasteland and I couldn't get the name right! Blah, Thanks!!
      • Bringing back the memories with Mail Order Monsters and Wasteland. I will always remember attacking the Horde with BeastFu and getting Wasteland Herpes in one of the cities in Bryan Fargo's classic. If you do a search on the web, you will come across a Mail Order Monsters game rewritten by a fan to run on a PC.

        Half of the games for the C64 had horrible graphics, but I remember how much fun they really were.
    • Oh, and another good game was Racing Destruction Set. Of course, whenever we would race on a moon with low gravity someone would invariably blow up and with the low gravity it would take about a minute fro the car to land each time the car bounced from the explosions. If I remember correctly you had to wait for the car to stop bouncing before you could race again.
    • Mail Order Monsters was out for the Atari 800, I preferred Archon II: Adept, though... fewer monsters to choose from but I liked the strategic element.

      My Dad like to play "Seven Cities of Gold," but it was always a slaughter when he played....

    • That whole "Games" series was bad.

      Never! As recently as 3 months ago, in my last job, we used to have regular MAME summer games tournaments between the 3 of us in the office, often 3 or 4 times a day. Tension was created by trying to listen for the boss coming up the stairs. Its the idea game to squeeze in quickly like that.

      By the way, I work contracts, so its not the reason it was my last job :)

    • Why would you want any of the Construction/Destruction sets if there's no ability to save your creations?
  • Cheap Sid Chips ? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by polyp2000 ( 444682 ) on Wednesday April 28, 2004 @01:30PM (#8998095) Homepage Journal
    Hmmm .... will it have a proper SID chip in it?
    • Hmmm .... will it have a proper SID chip in it?

      Did those games even have much music in them? I dont think they where on par to the music of Skate or Die.
      • Re:Cheap Sid Chips ? (Score:3, Interesting)

        by polyp2000 ( 444682 )
        For me the C64 Sid Chip music was as much important to me as the rest of the game. Im just wondering if this thing will include a real SID?

        World stocks of SID's are practically out, the Elektron SidStation (a SID based midi groovebox) bought pretty much all the remaining stocks from wherever they came from.

        It would be nice to think that the Sid was going back into production again in some form. But I suppose if it did, it would not quite be the same, I doubt if they could source authentic capacitors for t
        • by hiroshi912681 ( 589840 ) on Wednesday April 28, 2004 @05:28PM (#9001242)
          I'm betting that they'll be quick and dirty ports of C64 titles, and most likely won't feature decent SID emulation. Just take a look at the Atari TV Games or the Namco arcade games... The Adventure easter egg is missing on the Atari TV Game, and the Pacman "patterns" are missing on the Namco one. Definitely not the original hardware... just ports that are good enough to fool you at first glimpse.
        • So maybe the original SIDs are out of stock, but wouldn't it be possible to produce a faithful clone ? Heck, there are tons of SID emulators out there for Winamp etc.. one could probably code a SID emu on a PIC for pennies.
          • Re:Cheap Sid Chips ? (Score:4, Interesting)

            by polyp2000 ( 444682 ) on Wednesday April 28, 2004 @07:01PM (#9002274) Homepage Journal
            Oh sure there are good emulators, no doubt about that but they aint quite perfect. That maybe more down to the fact that there was an analog element to the sound.
            The C64 had capacitors which were used for sound filters, this is pretty hard to recreate authentically through emulation. Addtionally no two C64's sounded identical, although I can categorically say that the original brown C64's sounded generically considerably better than the 2nd generation cream colored C64's which had an updated SID and possible different filters which let to a harsher sound lacking in the bottom (bass) end. In a selfless gratuitous way the SID chip was kinda like the Moog of the microcomputer world. You can get close ... but no cigar without the real thing.

            Nick ...
  • Other than the Epyx Games series, Realm of Impossibility, and The Movie Monster Game, I can't remember what C64 games I wasted so many hours of my childhood on. 30 games sounds like a lot.

    These games were all great, by the way. I'd love to see a remake of the Movie Monster game. I think it was an Epyx game, where you'd be Godzilla or a ,arshmallow man, or just about any big monster from the 50's B-movies, and the goal was to smash a bunch of cities before the citizens shot you down. It was a riot.

    If I
    • The Blob was awesome, all you had to do was touch a building and walk off...after a bit the building would collapse. I always got the best scores with the Blob on a rampage =)

      And it was Epyx
    • I wasted many an hour on Impossible Mission ....

      My brother wasted many an hour on Uridium.
  • c64 games (Score:5, Interesting)

    by BrookHarty ( 9119 ) on Wednesday April 28, 2004 @01:53PM (#8998414) Homepage Journal
    I'd like to see for classic c64 games, Skate or Die, Bruce Lee, Karataka, Trolls and Tribulations, Exploding Fist, Last v8, into the eagles nest, green beret, turrican, archon, attack of the mutant camels.

    I'm forgetting a game, the battledroid game I think. I couldn't find it on [].

    The 64 had some pretty good games, and in the later years when they started pushing the hardware, some good gfx and sound for an 8bit system.
    • Are you looking for Paradroid []?
    • Re:c64 games (Score:3, Interesting)

      by BrookHarty ( 9119 )
      Found it, Heavy Metal Paradroid [].

      One of the most entertaining games had a plot and game play, the gfx didn't have to be top notch if the game play was fun. Qix, wasnt exactly the most eye catching game, but the game play and idea was quiet Interesting.

      I'd love to see the C64 games make a comeback, even if java on a mobile phone.
    • Re:c64 games (Score:2, Interesting)

      by linzeal ( 197905 )
      Litle Computer People [] was the first sim I ever played even before Simcity [] and Maxim's other ilk. The sounds from them as they became happy and sad used to haunt me, heh. I wish there was a proper way to kill them though as they bothered the hell out of me sometimes with their 'needs', bah! If I wanted needs I would get a girlfriend, wait I'm a slashdotter strike that, more likely I will grow a third arm from over consumption of stimulants and oh yeah baby! Cue: DISCO MUSIC
  • by Flyboy Connor ( 741764 ) on Wednesday April 28, 2004 @02:25PM (#8998878)
    Ah... Epyx Sports Games.

    I remember it still. First, you had the 100 meter dash. That meant hitting the space bar very fast for about 15 seconds. Then, you had the 200 meter dash. That meant hitting the space bar very fast for 30 seconds. Then, you had the 400 meter dash and you stopped playing.

    A friend of mine had an easy time winning those dash events. But he had fixed a small strip of wood to the end of a drill and used that to hit the space bar with something like a 100 RPMs. His character finished in a few seconds. Not so good for the keyboard, though.

    • And there's been so much development [] since then. *winks*

    • Re:Sports Games fun (Score:3, Informative)

      by prockcore ( 543967 )
      I remember it still. First, you had the 100 meter dash. That meant hitting the space bar very fast for about 15 seconds. Then, you had the 200 meter dash. That meant hitting the space bar very fast for 30 seconds. Then, you had the 400 meter dash and you stopped playing.

      You don't remember it quite clearly though. It required a joystick. For the sprints, you had to rock the joystick back and forth really rapidly. For things like diving, you basically just beat the shit out of the joystick trying to pull
      • You're right! And indeed, my friend hit his joystick with the drill (it's really a true story, except that the joystick was trashed and not the keyboard -- trashing the keyboard would be very bad with a C64, because it's inseparable from the computer, as you know).

        And what about that diving! I remember that the judgement went as follows: if you hit the water correctly, the more you had moved the joystick, the better your score. And if you hit the water incorrectly, you were in a world of pain, probably.

  • by JMZero ( 449047 ) on Wednesday April 28, 2004 @02:42PM (#8999080) Homepage
    Many classic C64 games used the keyboard - either for all or some gameplay functions. Even Jumpman (the best game ever - try my free remake!) used the keyboard during the menu screens (and to select a run-speed).

    Are they going to include a keyboard? If not, are they going to try to rewrite parts of these games? Or are they going to limit this to really bad titles like "California Games" and whatever else they can find that doesn't use the keyboard?

    Perhaps they can munge together necessary functionality by having a few extra buttons that function as different keyboard keys according to the game being played?
    • California Games is a great game!

      You do have a point - the Games series had you enter your name on the keyboard before starting. The highscore save feature will naturally have to be cut and all simultaneous two-player events will be a lot less fun.

  • All I can say is I hope this one is truer than some ofthe current Jakks games. I grew up on the C64 and will be the first in line!
  • Best C64 game ever. This should be included... except, a keyboard would be needed to write on the blackboards.

    Throughout any and every C64 discussion I've ever seen, I've never heard anyone reference this game.. does anyone else know it but me?
  • Wonder if they could possibly work out a deal to have the original C64 version of Defenders of the Crown. God I loved that game on the C64. The PC version never had the graphics and that sorry NES version just never captured the magic.
    • Wonder if they could possibly work out a deal to have the original C64 version of Defenders of the Crown. God I loved that game on the C64. The PC version never had the graphics and that sorry NES version just never captured the magic.

      Have you played the Apple IIgs version? It had the best graphics and sound out of all of them.
  • What good would a C=64 emulator be if it diddnt include Lemonade Stand?
  • I miss my old C64. I can't imagine how many hours I played so many games on. California Games was always one of my favorites, even though it doesn't seem popular around here. My wish list on the other games would include:

    Montezuma's Revenge, Impossible Mission (patched so you can finish it), Carmen Sandiego, Skate or Die, Hardball, Maniac Mansion, Alphabet Zoo, Rockford aka Boulderdash, & the hacked C64 version of Super Mario Brothers.

    I'll definitely be buying one when they hit the streets. Ah no

  • I cannot believe you people forgot M.U.L.E. [] For shame.
  • I sure hope you can somehow hook two units together to multiplay. Anyone remember Wizard of Wor []? It was actually the first computer game I ever played, in 1983. Damn those were some good times, back then... I still play it with Vice [] sometimes, though you want to play it co-op multiplayer for maximal fun.

    If you would like to get stuff for Vice, check out Arnold []. It seems they have every C64 title I've ever heard of.
    • Anyone remember Wizard of Wor? It was actually the first computer game I ever played, in 1983.

      That was a good one. The first computer game I ever played was Mystery House [] by sierra.

      It was the first text-adventure game with graphics. I remember being very frustrated because I couldn't put out the fire because I couldn't figure out how to say "put out fire with pitcher of water"
  • What about the billions of other classic games for the C-64? What about Mail Order Monsters [], Seven Cities of Gold [], Auto Duel [] or M.U.L.E. []?

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