30 Greatest Games of 2005 158
Next Generation continues its end-of-year celebration with a treatise on the 30 finest games of the year. From the article: "Some may remember 2005 as a year of financial shortfalls, rising game production costs, depleted Xbox 360 stock, political soap-boxing, or over-exertion in Korean Internet cafes. Forget all that stuff for now. 2005 wasn't a year to be remembered for one great gaming breakthrough or innovation, but it did produce some remarkable products. It was a year marked with some of the best games of the fading generation. "
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I think the biggest thing to happen to PC gaming this year was the inclusion of dual processors (and dual threading) to Quake 4. The next best thing was the support for 64 bit processors given by Far Cry.
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Gun? (Score:1)
Re:Gun? (Score:1)
Re:Gun? (Score:5, Informative)
Just because you don't like a game (and I personally have no intention of buying Nintendogs) doesn't mean it's not good.
Re:Gun? (Score:1)
Re:Gun? (Score:4, Interesting)
But there's no such thing as a 'definitive' review - you see games getting a wide range of scores because of the personal preference of the reviewer. As always, the best thing you can do is find a reviewer whose personal tastes match yours.
That's moving away from the point I was making, though. There are games that get a lot of acclaim (critically and popularly) that you may not rate as highly. I know there are for me - Halo and Panzer Dragoon Saga probably being the biggest names among them. That doesn't mean that those games don't belong in a list of good games. Nor does it mean that games I prefer to them should be ranked more highly. I'll bow to popular opinion and accept that these are good games that I did not like personally.
In this case, a game which had better reviews than one that the original poster enjoyed made it into the top-30 list. That doesn't invalidate the list in any way. Even if the 'worse' game according to the average review score had made it in it wouldn't invalidate it - it's all a matter of personal preference anyway.
And like it or not, Nintendogs was almost certainly a more important game than Gun this year. It spurred huge hardware sales because it appealed to a different demographic than more traditional games.
Re:Gun? (Score:3, Informative)
Um, take a closer look and then don't overreact. They broke thier list down into genres and came up with three games for each genre. If you think Gun belongs on the list, then it would have to be better than one of the three games in the FPS category. Is it better than Brothers in Arms, Battlefield 2, or F.E.A.R.? Alternatively, if you categorize it as Action/Adventure, it has to be better than Resident Evil 4, God of War, or Shadow of the Colossus.
For the "other" category, they listed six titles. If Ninte
Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
Aw, come on. Gun is a neat game, but it's not groundbreaking in any way. It wouldn't be wrong to put it into a Top-X-List, but it isn't wrong to leave it out, either.
Nintendogs, on the other hand, single-handedly proved that the DS is more than just a gimmick, sold hundreds of thousands of consoles, showed that games can be successfull outside the hardcore gaming market and pretty much
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
I disagree. At best, all it did was prove that a gimmick is enough to sell DSes. It's unfortunate, because I really rather enjoy my DS, but an overhyped Tomagatchi has nothing to do with that.
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
If I had to guess, I'd say you don't own the game. And based on your spelling, I'd say you've never owned a Tamagotchi, either.
Either way, if you think Nintendogs is nothing but an overhyped Tamagotchi, surely you can see that Gun is nothing more than a cheap westernized copy of GTA, right?
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
Correct. I have a real dog and cat to play with (Imagine my shock that a full grown cat would actually like playing with its owner!).
2 minutes with Nintendogs on the display unit was enough to make me wonder about people all over again.
And based on your spelling, I'd say you've never owned a Tamagotchi, either.
Not the "official" ones, no. I had one of the Digimons, that you could connect with the other ones and fight it out.
Either way, if you think Ninten
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
Wouldn't you agree that dismissing a game after playing it for 2 minutes - especially a game which got an average rating of 85% (per gamerankings [gamerankings.com]) - could be just a tad premature?
Look, you can't possibly have seen more than a few % of the game after playing it for 2 minutes, and that's not even taking into account that the whole idea of Nintendogs is that you buy, name, train and play with your own dog
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
Nope. If the game bored me after two minutes, then I'd say buying it would be a bit foolish.
especially a game which got an average rating of 85% (per gamerankings) - could be just a tad premature?
Hardly. Gamerankings is an aggregation of game rags' reviews, which have about nothing to do with my buying decisions. I'm sure as hell not going to value gamerankings over the fact that the game bored me. Hell, The Sims got 89% on GR, and that
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
Well. I don't know how to put this without insulting you, but really... dismissing a game - any game - after two minutes of playtime is just stupid.
Especially if it's a game like Nintendogs. When playing Nintendogs for two minutes, you either didn't get to the real game (as buying a dog takes quite a bit more than two minutes) or you pla
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
Or I just realized that the concept was boring and a waste of my time. A lot of times it doesn't take that long. Had the same experience with the abortion
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
Oh well, I think it's pointless to discuss this particular idea any further. If you think that you can judge a universally acclaimed game like Nintendogs after playing it for two minutes on a system somebody else set up, more power to you. The rest of the world pretty much disagrees, but whatever floats your boat.
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
No, but they're sure to know whether, say, Bioware is buying ads. Rip on NWN enough, and the result is predictable.
But you're just proving what I said. Lunar is a bad game. They wrote a bad review and gave it a rating which is below most of their ratings. So the reviewing process works.
No, they gave it a review that
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
Look, if you're claiming that ads influence game ratings at major sites or magazines, you need a bit more than "the results are predictable". Do you have any evidence at all?
Re:Nintendogs is way more important than Gun (Score:2)
Stop sucking that Nintendo-dick, fanboy, and post with your login next time.
Best Games of 2005 but not released in 2005 (Score:5, Interesting)
2005 was not an especially good year for PC games, with most of the attention on sequels that you can play in your sleep they are so similar to what is already out there. Consoles and portables got some innovative titles, while PC gamers get left with sequels that play the same, but have a hard time running on modern hardware (I'm looking at you, Civ 4).
Rome: Total War, Diablo 2, UT2k4, and Ranarama (old game) took most of my attention this year, plus multiplayer Call of Duty. Nothing came out this year to take my attention away from games I was already playing.
Civ 4 doesn't run on modern hardware? (Score:2)
Speaking of good sequals, Pirates is wonderful. Same basic game as the first two, but hell, I would still play Pirates Gold in DOSBox sometimes and this is a wonderful update.
Re:Civ 4 doesn't run on modern hardware? (Score:3, Interesting)
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Civ 4 got returned by me (Score:2)
Re:Civ 4 got returned by me (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Civ 4 got returned by me (Score:5, Interesting)
128MB should be enough? Who says? I upgraded from 128 to 256 two years ago, for less than $100, and my Asus GeForce FX 5700 runs Civ4 just fine. The thing about progress is that it depends upon things progressing. Among other things this means that at some point your video card is going to need to be replaced with something newer. Civ4 is just the first of many games that you won't be able to play. You just gotta accept that your video card is Old News. An FX5700 is like fifty bucks on ebay. Suck it up and upgrade like a man.
Re:Civ 4 got returned by me (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Best Games of 2005 but not released in 2005 (Score:2)
Or, more specifically, run like a quad amputee through frozen molasses on double the reccommended system requirements.
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Civilization IV - Released Way Too Eearly!! (Score:5, Interesting)
Civfanatics.com is an extremely good resource for people crazy about Civilization IV, and you can immediately see there are some serious problems with the game. There have already been two patches (25 megs and 45 megs a pop) in the first couple months of the release, and things are still terrible with the game. Basically, the memory usages generally runs in the territory of unbelievable (600-800 megs), with the game basically unplayable after a certain point. You don't actually experience some of the most interesting parts of the game because things are just that amazingly slow.
But don't take my word for it, read the posts on civfanatics.com.
This is just another reason why corporations bastardize the faith that users have in them. Firaxis, shame on you.
Re:Civilization IV - Released Way Too Eearly!! (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Civilization IV - Released Way Too Eearly!! (Score:2)
What's so unbelivable about the RAM usage? (Score:4, Insightful)
I've played all the way through a few games on my system and it works great. It gets slow in the end but still easily playable and no slower than the other Civs. Hell, I remember waiting 5-10 minutes for my computer to finish calculating all the AI turns on Civ 2 per turn late in the game.
RAM (Score:2)
I've found Battlefield 2 to be a crazy RAM hog as well, and it performs much better with over a gig of RAM.
Re:RAM (Score:5, Insightful)
In fact I've ALWAYS liked to go overkill on the RAM on my computers. I generally seem to have about double what you'd find in a "high end" box, despite the rest of my components being older. Perhaps because of that, I find that I don't need to upgrade my CPU all that often.
I think the problem is that computer makers tend to skimp on RAM since it's not a stat most people think about. They are worried about CPU speed and maybe HD space, but to hell with RAM. Well, since modern OSes can deal with low RAM fine (though slowly) peoiple don't realise it could be better.
For comptuers these days I'd say 512MB minimum for office type work, 1GB minimum for games, and 2GB if you want to be nice n' safe. Given that 2GB is only like $180, less than most new graphics cards, I think it's hard to justify having a blazing dual core CPU, a new video card, and then starving your system RAM-wise.
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My game machine has 2GB and runs Civ4 just fine (even on large/huge maps). Civ4 is eating up 800MB on those maps, so if you're trying to play huge maps with less then 1GB, you're shooting yourself in the foot.
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Plays like a hog on my 1gb xp2500+
And I remember Civ 2 being fine on a p133 laptop!
Re:What's so unbelivable about the RAM usage? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:What's so unbelivable about the RAM usage? (Score:1)
So I suppose my point is that not everyone has the luxury of being able to upgrade their RAM so inexpensively.
Re:Civilization IV - Released Way Too Eearly!! (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:Civilization IV - Released Way Too Eearly!! (Score:3, Interesting)
After following tons of game releases in the last 2-3 years, there is AWALYS a backlash about compatibilities and other problems outside of the game itself. There are tons of people posting that games doesn't work, but you have to take that with a grain of salt, sin
Re:Civilization IV - Released Way Too Eearly!! (Score:3, Insightful)
Since it's not, it's a legitimate gripe if the game doesn't work on a system that meets the system requirements.
Alpha Centauri is still better (Score:4, Insightful)
With each new Civilization game they add "new" features that were in 1999 in SMAC: Borders, technology quotes, complex diplomacy, UN.
Everything was done before and better and it is really a sad year when Civ4 gets picked by IGn as game of the year.
I just wish Brian Reynolds would do another SMAC2
Re:Alpha Centauri is still better (Score:2)
So it seems that I did like all the games Brian did so far. Can't wait for the Rise Of Legends.
Re:Civilization IV - Released Way Too Eearly!! (Score:2)
I agree, but... (Score:5, Interesting)
However, it wouldn't be so upsetting if this game wasn't so well done in every other aspect.
Simply amazing. If they had put the extra months into it, this wouldn't be a 9.0, the game would be as close to 10 as I think we're capable of reaching as imperfect beings...
Flaws aside, I still play it.
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Simply amazing. If they had put the extra months into it, this wouldn't be a 9.0, the game would be as close to 10 as I think we're capable of reaching as imperfect beings...
The interface still needs work.
- You can't esc -> quit until end of turn, a major pain.
- You can't *easily* set your custom game settings as a preference.
- I haven't figured out how to disable the 'clouds' layer when zooming far above the worl
Re:Civilization IV - Released Way Too Eearly!! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Civilization IV - Released Way Too Eearly!! (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Civilization IV - Released Way Too Eearly!! (Score:2)
I haven't put together a PC since 2001 with less than a gig of ram. I find more and more "off the shelf" companies using 512 as a standard for their home user machines. Gamers know to expect a bit of a rougher ride. This isn't really unreasonable. I normally run this on my HP ZD7260 with a gig of ram on a regular basis with no real problems.
Should they have held off longer? The patches do make it look bad, I sympathise, but i
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But how many of them have as much gift giving and general money spending associated with them?
Duke Nukem Forever (Score:3, Funny)
30 good games? (Score:5, Insightful)
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30 Greatest Games of 2005
By Kris Graft
Let's end the year on a positive note. Next-Gen.Biz has picked through the year's best games, by genre, and come up with the 30 stand-outs. You know, these past 12 months really did host some very fine games.---
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ImageSome may remember 2005 as a year of financial shortfalls, rising game production costs, depleted Xbox 360 stock, political soap-boxing, or over-exertion in Korean Internet cafes.
Forget all that stuff for now. 2005 wasn't a year to be remembered for one great gaming breakthrough or innovation, but it did produce some remarkable products. It was a year marked with some of the best games of the fading generation.
Here are 30 of the year's best games, sorted by their genre and release dates (there is no order of merit). Let the hatemail flow like the black blood of a colossus.
Note: This list is for mainstream console platforms, handhelds and commercial PC. We'll be looking at the best in mobile and 'casual' entertainment in a separate feature.
Action/Adventure
2005 was a banner year for the action adventure genre. It started out with a huge bloody bang, the spring season ushered in a tormented Greek soul, and fall introduced some truly colossal characters.
Resident Evil 4
Publisher: Capcom
Developer: Capcom
GC: Jan 11, 05; PS2: Oct 25, 05
Resident Evil 4 revitalized the stagnant franchise with quicker enemies, more responsive controls and an improved over-the-shoulder camera. It took what we love about the franchise and improved on it, doing away with what we hate in the process.
God of War
Publisher: SCEA
Developer: Sony Santa Monica
PS2: Mar 22, 05
Incog's God of War sets the standard for action games, period. With an excellent story, fluid and brutal fighting system, lovely enemies and great visuals, God of War will be remembered many years after '05.
Image Shadow of the Colossus
Publisher: SCEA
Developer: SCEI
PS2: Oct 18, 05
Superb boss battles defined Shadow of the Colossus. Forget Bowser and Mother Brain, SotC's bosses are the most insanely huge and powerful enemies you'll encounter. Just stop with the comparisons to Ico. SotC is a stellar game on its own merit.
Other notable entries in action adventure this year are Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, Ninja Gaiden Black and The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap.
Role-Playing Games
The year in RPGs was respectable. Bioware tried its hand at the martial arts with excellent results, a new quality MMORPG arrived with no subscription costs, and American gamers are reminded why traditional Japanese RPGs can still show the way.
Jade Empire
Publisher: Microsoft Game Studios
Developer: Bioware
Xbox: Apr 12, 05
From a galaxy far, far away to mystical ancient China, Bioware has proven that its got major RPG chops. Jade Empire combines action and RPG elements and manages to give both aspects due respect. Bioware knows kung fu, and delivered the best RPG on Xbox this year.
Guild Wars
Publisher: NCsoft
Developer: ArenaNet
PC: Apr 26, 05
Guild Wars gives you much more than what you pay for, which is nothing. Outside of the initial retail cost of the game, there are no monthly fees for the MMORPG. Guild Wars boasts combat that's actually fun, great graphics and entertaining online play.
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
Publisher: Square Enix
Developer: Level-5
PS2: Nov 15, 05
Dragon Quest VIII is the latest title from the developers of the Dark Cloud series. The latest game got the full Level-5 treatment with an enamoring presentation, accessible and fun combat, a good story, and dozens of hours of gameplay.
Other notable entries in RPGs this year are X-Men Legends II, Freedom Force vs. The Third Reich and Digital Devil Saga II.
First-Pers
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Freedom Force vs. The Third Reich
A fairly good sequel using the original engine (graphics aren't much better than FF). I liked this game and played it to completion, but its not as good as the first one. It didn't add very many new characters to the freedom force, and none of them were introduced using the storyline (they would just show up as available for hire). If you haven't played Fre
NetBSD v3.0 (Score:1)
NetBSD v3.0 is my early Christmas present.
nex year do the top 50 games of 2006 (Score:2, Interesting)
then 2008 top 250 games
Is it just me or does the top 30 games just seem a bit much.
Pick the top 5 or 10 even but 30 ?
What is is do they get paid by the game ?
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Re:nex year do the top 50 games of 2006 (Score:2)
from the that's-a-little-bit-of-overkill dept (Score:5, Insightful)
Come on now. Treatise?
That is not a treatise, that is an article. These [amazon.com] are [amazon.com] treatises [amazon.com].
I wouldn't call a list of video games a systematic exposition.
Guild Wars... (Score:3, Informative)
To be honest, what makes it not fun is the MMORPG aspect... there is no single player, and a lot of the players are the sort you'd expect to find in this sort of game... idiotic kids who are just out for themselves... the game accounts for it by making treasure specific to random players in the party (no one else can pick it up)
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Re:Guild Wars... (Score:3, Informative)
The article is simply wrong to call it one. If anything, it is more like a fantasy/medieval MMOFPS.
Also, Phantom Dust (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Also, Phantom Dust (Score:1)
Did you even play Phantom Dust, because it really did have an immersive universe.
out of step (Score:4, Interesting)
I've been playing games since the old 8bit Nintendos. I was that college kid in the early 90's pulling all-nighters on a MUD. However today I don't consider myself a "gamer" but I do spend multiple hours a week playing some sort of game on the Windows compy or PS2. I find it interesting that of all the games I've played this year and have enjoyed very much.. none of them are on that list. That isn't to say I didn't play any of those or that they aren't any good to begin with. I just find it interesting when I'm that far out of sync with a popular culture market. It warms my heart in a certain south of market way. :)
Happy War on Christmas everyone!
is it a secret? (Score:1)
And in the UK we're still waiting...... (Score:3)
I SERIOUSLY hope that the PS3 and Rev arnt region coded since having to wait forever for releases from other territories really IS rediculous. Whats worse is quite a few really good titles never make it over here; and for the bad titles, it would increase their sales. My 8 year old seriously wanted the Neopets game but Santa has had to tell him no becase daddy was a good little consumer and never chipped his PS2...come to think about it though daddy hasnt got a PSP because he was ***** off at Sony trying to ban the import so they could rise the price a few quid (*****).
Its been a terrible year for games though with very little managing to grab my attention (Guild Wars and Day of Defeat has been about it) and I in fact have spent more time retrogaming on my X-arcade (Magic Drop 3 rocks!!!).
Cant wait for next year where the best game is going to be watching Sony and Microsoft go WTF as the Rev outsells them both
No Meteos? (Score:3, Interesting)
Ah well, at least Advance Wars DS did get mentioned. The time we've put in on that is just surreal. Once upon a time it took me 55 hours to finish FFIII/VI with all subquests completed. The game clock on the history screen on my copy of AWDS currently reads 180 hours. That's split between two people, true, but we easily put in five times as long on AW2. That's some good gameplay!
Re:No Meteos? (Score:1)
Where's Meteos
Meteos got an "honorable mention".
aka The DS Lumines?
If you want Lumines for GBA or DS, try this [pineight.com].
There were 30 great games in 2005? (Score:3, Insightful)
We need more games like... (Score:1, Informative)
Small, free, interesting and original.
Fading Generation? (Score:2)
What does that mean? Is this yet another "PC is dead" barbs?
Take pity, it's the holidays... (Score:1)
http://www.next-gen.biz.nyud.net:8090/index2.php?
Other thing it fails to mention. (Score:4, Insightful)
Why? Granted The screen and overall look of the PSP is damn sexy. But when I can buy 2 DS's for the price of 1 PSP and the games seem to be going at the same rate.... (I can buy 2 DS games for the price of 1 PSP game) Guess which one the parents are grabbing for the kiddies. And yes, the chat function is highly desireable to kids... something that the PSP should have had in some fashon.
MarioKart DS is flat out super fun. (yes I am playing my kids toy before christmas... so shoot me!) and the fact that someone else can play me on the same game cart without them having it is absolutely killer and makes the PSP look like crap right there. (Sony would have NEVER allowed such abilities in the PSP.)
I do believe that nintendogs will make people dumber, but it's cute for kids and that is what sells usually. I personally cant wait for Super Monkeyball DS.
To heck with the top games, let's talk top gaming platforms.
Re:Other thing it fails to mention. (Score:2, Funny)
Erm..they did. It's called "Game Sharing", and as a game example, Burnout: Legends uses it. I understand the DS is really nice, and that we hate Sony for the rootkit, but at least give them the small things they DO include that are nice.
Re:Other thing it fails to mention. (Score:2)
That feature alone was worth the $250 out of my pocket and made the PSP inestimably more valuable than the DS.
I know Linux is a leper with this crowd... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I know Linux is a leper with this crowd... (Score:2, Interesting)
GT4, anyone? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:GT4, anyone? (Score:2, Informative)
But then again...I can't say Forza was that great of a game either...
What I do know... is that Mario Kart DS rocks, and next gen got one title right anyway!
Re:GT4, anyone? (Score:3, Informative)
Other notable entries in the driving genre this year include Gran Turismo 4, Project Gotham Racing 3 and Wipeout Pure.
I too found it strange that GT4 didn't make the list. But I have yet to play it or its contemporaries so I can't say whether or not the other games deserve the title more or not.
Re:Greatest Game - Dating!!! (Score:1)
Re:Guild Wars? (Score:1)
Nothing will ever take my time like Diablo 2 has been doing for the last 5 years though
Re:Guild Wars? (Score:1)
Re:Guild Wars? (Score:2)
Guild Wars is more like Diablo II not World of Warcraft. It's massive only in 'chat', not in gameplay. When you play you are with a small party like Diablo II not in a world with thousands of other playes like World of Warcraft.
Great game: agreed. I only argue that it is not a MMORG.
Re:Pro Evo 5 (Score:2)
I'd guess the 2005 release of Winning Eleven would be equivelant to the 2005 release of Pro Evo, but I'm not some expert on the various versions of football games.