Nintendo Shuts Down 'Pokemon Uranium' Fan Game After 1.5 Million Downloads (thewrap.com) 140
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Wrap: The fan-made "Pokemon Uranium" game took a pair of programmers more than nine years to develop. Nintendo needed just about nine days to kill it. "After receiving more than 1,500,000 downloads of our game, we have been notified of multiple takedown notices from lawyers representing Nintendo of America," the creators of "Pokemon Uranium" said in a statement. "While we have not personally been contacted, it's clear what their wishes are, and we respect those wishes deeply. Therefore, we will no longer provide official download links for the game through our website," they continued. "We have no connection to fans who re-upload the game files to their own hosts, and we cannot verify that those download links are all legitimate. We advise you to be extremely cautious about downloading the game from unofficial sources." The role-playing game was free, though creators @JVuranium and Involuntary Twitch were open to suggested PayPal donations of $2-$10. Set in the tropical Tandor region, "Uranium" players can encounter more than 150 all-new species of Pokemon in their quest to collect all eight Gym Badges and triumph over the Tandor League, per the official description. Along the way, the players must battle against a sinister threat that's causing Nuclear Meltdowns.
Surprised? (Score:5, Insightful)
Was anyone surprised by this? If you use somebody else's intellectual property without first getting consent, it seems like you're dooming yourself to similar failures. I don't know what they were thinking using a heavily trademarked and copyrights franchise brand without first seeking legal advice. It's possible they may have been hoping for some "fair use" argument to prevail, but IMO that seems like a long shot.
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Was anyone surprised by this? If you use somebody else's intellectual property without first getting consent, it seems like you're dooming yourself to similar failures. I don't know what they were thinking using a heavily trademarked and copyrights franchise brand without first seeking legal advice. It's possible they may have been hoping for some "fair use" argument to prevail, but IMO that seems like a long shot.
Yeah, I'm kinda shocked they didn't see this coming, this seems like a pretty clear case of trademark infringement.
They'd probably be fine if they just rebranded their pokemon as fairies or some kind of magical creatures, but calling them pokemon is asking for a lawsuit.
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Maybe they wanted to Streisand from the start?
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We just went through this a week and a half ago with the fan Metroid 2 remake AM2R. Nintendo shut that down in 2 days.
http://www.ign.com/articles/20... [ign.com]
It is a brilliant remake, which was desperately needed because Nintendo seems to constantly ignore Metroid. If Nintendo shuts down something like this, Pokemon doesn't have a prayer.
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They DID get away with this. Sometimes its just not about the money. Good practice and massive exposure are a plus, but sometimes you just gotta make something you love.
Kudos to them.
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Let's see here... 1.5 million downloads with an optional suggested donation of $2~10 equals about zero.
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Neither did Pete Townshend or Roger Daltrey.
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Naa, that is The Who, not WHO.
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And it's The Doctor and not Doctor Who, but nobody ever gives a shit.
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You HAVE to press charges against those who rob you
Not strictly true. They could license the rights for $1 + 80% of "donations" if they wanted.
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Actually AM2R is still up. They just released an update a couple of days ago.
They sent C&D letters to the places that hosted the file for download.
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"which was desperately needed "
I know what you mean, but I can't help thinking 'first world'...
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Not sure, the war in Syria, BLM, Ghostbusters reboot, all could have been avoided.
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Dude, don't get me started on first world problems. We're about to get either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump as President. Cut me some slack.
"Desperately needed" in the sense that Metroid 2 is the hardest game to play *legally* now and the longest in tooth technology-wise. Most people aren't going to casually go to eBay and pick up a working GameBoy.
The original Metroid got remade as Zero Mission. Super Metroid can be played on Wii U Virtual Console, and at least that game has color. Metroid 2 can be playe
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There are certainly harder games to play legally. This game, for one. Or Fighting is Magic, which faced very similar legal issues. For both these there is no way to play them legally at all.
Re: Surprised? (Score:2)
"Cut me some slack."
no worries... it was actually meant largely as a self deprecating joke... (because I myself get annoyed maybe 100 times a day for things that I immediately feel guilty for getting annoyed... things like if one badly designed toothpaste tube doesn't let you squeeze it all out... so I have to constantly remind myself "yeah, first world problems".. Btw, I guess this constant self reminding is actually a first world problem in itself, or a first world metaproblem..) cheers!
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A remake of Metroid 2 is not needed. You might want one, but it's not needed. The original game still exists and is still playable (and is, I believe, legally available on Nintendo platforms via the Virtual Console).
If you want "a modern game that is a lot like Metroid 2", then there are any number of indie game projects that fit that bill on Steam. Some of them are terrible, others are basically more or less as good as the old Metroid games (though they lack the official licence or the nostalgia value). Th
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Yeah, you have to show a penis instead of replacing it with a tentacle.
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But everyone damn well knows they likely wouldn't have gotten 1.5 million downloads otherwise. This is exactly why intellectual property is actually valuable and is vigorously protected. I have a hard time thinking they'd be so stupid as to think they'd get away with this*. It's got to be about the publicity.
* I could be wrong. People always manage to surprise me on this point.
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And the nail in the coffin was accepting donations
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Donations post free download count for nothing, as it is legally up to the donator what the donation was for. Nintendo in this case is really dumb, basically they were going to get a ton of free advertising for their pay to play games, the better the free version ( as long as it is not as good as the paid version) just promote the brand, way cheaper than any other form of advertisement (free versus millions of dollars) of course, hmm, if the change their mind after the Streisand affect and become all nice a
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Ah, the universal excuse for stealing other people's work; "free advertising".
What you are over looking is that a crappy "not as good as the paid version" game actually dilutes and damages the brand. It may advertise it, possibly, but not necessarily in a good way.
Why don't you come put a couple of weeks' work in for me? For free. But it will be excellent free advertising for your other work. The jobs where you actually get paid. I get your work for nothing, and I'll tell everyone what a great job y
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That was actually the brilliant part. If they sold it, now they'd be SOL. With donations, they may even still make money from games that are now being downloaded from third parties.
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While I agree the classy thing for Nintendo to do would be to give them a $1 license for the trademark so long as the game is free and they let Nintendo's lawyers scrutinize it before release. But the fact that they didn't reach out to Nintendo before releasing
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Whether it's trademarked is irrelevant. At least to the people who want to play it, they just want to play it. And don't give a rat's ass about your trademark. Whether you make the game or someone else, do I give a shit? If it's good, I play it. Since it's free, it's not like I lose anything by giving it a try.
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But do you really not give a fuck/rat's ass/shit (so edgy, you must be 53 but you talk like a 12 year old boy) about the trademark?
If it wasn't Pokemon, would you even care about this game?
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Oh ffs, sorry if I don't go with the times and use outdated lingo, it takes a while to get it across the pond and you don't get to hear foreign phrases used often in colloquial speech 'round here.
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While I agree the classy thing for Nintendo to do would be to give them a $1 license for the trademark so long as the game is free and they let Nintendo's lawyers scrutinize it before release. But the fact that they didn't reach out to Nintendo before releasing the game would mean Nintendo sets a dangerous precedent by licensing them.
They just would have said no like they always do, which is why asking for permission would have been a bad idea.
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But opening yourself up to a very expensive trademark suit is a good idea?
I didn't say that. I only said that asking would have been dumb. I think the whole thing is stupid.
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You don't get to steal somebody elses shit, or ride off their brand recognition, just because you want to.
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It is very, very rare that companies would grant permission in cases like this, and particularly in cases where the brand is still actively used. Moreover, it is rare for a good reason.
Pokémon is a hugely valuable franchise for Nintendo. Really, these days, with Mario and Zelda having lost a bit of their mass-appeal (neither could turn around the Wii-U's fortunes), Pokémon has become the jewel in Nintendo's crown (even if it's technically The Pokémon Company that owns the li
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Trademarks only protect use in trade. As this was basically a hobbyist project and given away for free, was it using the name 'Pokemon' by way of trade?
That's not even close to the legal definition. Trademark infringement is offering a product or service that is confusingly similar to an official, licensed one by use of trade marks. Why you do it doesn't matter. That it's free doesn't mean much when many actual games have free demos or a freemium business model. Could a reasonable person think that "Pokemon Uranium" is an official Pokemon game? If the answer to that is yes - and this is as blatant as it gets - it's game over.
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I think it was rather stupid. People need to learn that those who have money make the rules. When the rules are abused by people without money, the people with money get tougher rules made.
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Re: Surprised? (Score:2)
"People want to battle an electric rodent against a talking cat, a lot less than they want to defeat Team Rocket's Meouth with Pikachu."
Those people are fools!
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Nine years developing a game that anyone could have told them would be banned almost immediately.
Either they are naive enough to think the attention will get them a job at Nintendo (it won't), or they are naive enough to think Nintendo wouldn't notice or care (they always will). Either way, pretty naive.
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Or they were brilliant enough to understand what's going to happen.
First, the name Pokemon alone would ensure that a lot of people download their game.
Second, Nintendo will rip it from stores.
Third, this will get reported.
Fourth, publicity for being a poor, widdle developer who invests NINE YEARS only to be squished by huge corporation
Fifth, profit.
Because they ain't selling it. Yes, because. If they sold it, they would certainly not make a dime from anyone who downloads it now from a third party. But by as
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You cannot squeeze blood from a stone. Sure, you could sue me for more than I own, but rest assured that my money will be gone before you get to see a cent.
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What resources? The first thing I'd make sure when trying to pull something like this is that I would not have any resources left to my name.
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Yup, naive. (Score:1)
I've met some people who were very smart programmers, but didn't really understand or "get" the rest of life. This seems like a prime example of that.
I would say Aspergers but every time you do these days you'll get some SJW who claims to have it ranting about discrimination etc.
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No one with a tiny bit of insight was surprised by this.
When it came out "how long before the takedown?" was maybe the most common question people asked themselves. Nintendo and the Pokemon company are well known for being very protective of their IP.
I think even the devs saw it coming, they may even have their response planned in advance. I suspect their strategy was to make a huge buzz early on and exploit the small amount of time they had before the takedown.
Nintendo's priorities are weird (Score:1)
I'd think they'd be better off c&d'ing all those nintendo/Pokemon sex fetish media/games on certain sites that inundated their rabid fanbase full of teenage furverts damaging their IP permanently, more than some low quality fangame that should've known better to not waste a colossal amount of time for not having the effort to make use of creative imagination.
Checksums (Score:3, Informative)
Checksums in case anyone wants to verify any downloads:
http://pastebin.com/QDgXsxmL [pastebin.com]
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Yes, but are they the *correct* checksums? You'll never know.
Malwares: gotta catch 'em all.
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Anytime I hear or read Nintendo, its POKEMON related. Been like that for years now.
Since that last game though.... this shit is worse than football season.
Well seems like the law works. (Score:3)
I'm the first to say pirate on! But here you are using another companies product name and charging for it for commercial gains. What did they expect to happen?
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Suggested, wink wink nudge nudge.
Even at two dollars each, with one and a half million downloads that amounts to three million dollars. It's not pocket change anymore.
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But how alternative is it really if they can't even come up with a different name? Sure, make a game and call it a "Pokemon-style RPG with unique pets!" but just ... just don't put another company's IP right there in the title. They were BEGGING for a C&D letter with that.
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Yes you anonymous coward.
Nintendo are only keeping up appearances. (Score:2)
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Certain platforms have rampant trademark infringement in the programs offered on them, especially games. Does the fact that trademark holders (including Nintendo) continue to ignore them cause their marks to be genericized on those specific platforms? (Or maybe they are unaware of the infringement...quite possible, but I am not sure if that matters legally.)
(Not asking for legal advice—just curious...I was actually wondering about that just a few days ago.)
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Hey, that's my novelty flying disc!
Rebrand and relaunch in 3, 2, 1 ... (Score:4, Insightful)
What's the big deal? AFAIU the monsters are their unique designs. All they need to do is remove the Pokemon association and trademarks and all is fine and dandy.
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From the trailer video, it looks like they're using sprites taken directly from some of Nintendo's games, alongside their own invented monsters. They could definitely remove The Pokemon Company's properties and leave just their own, and rename the game and terms in the game to create something non-infringing. It likely would take substantial editing/rebranding.
Of course, without the name and familiar characters the begin with, this game likely wouldn't have gotten much attention in the first place.
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...the monsters are their unique designs.
Not really. For example, one of the screenshots on their website shows a monster named gyarados [pokemonuranium.com] which features a sprite that looks like nothing more than a recolored version of... well I'll let you guess.
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Advertisement? (Score:1)
This totally reads like viral advertisement to me. They HAVEN'T been contacted by Nintendo, but they are making a big dramatic statement about removing official download links and and getting loads of publicity for it. Oh, and you can donate some money via paypal hint hint.
Are CEOs idiots? (Score:2)
What I don't understand about things like this is why the company doesn't just cut a deal with the chaps and make some damn money.
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1.5 million downloads at a suggested donation of $2-10, meaning it's darned certain they didn't get more than $3 million.
Nintendo's choice is to "cut a deal" for a fraction of less than $3 million (probably a lot less), thereby encouraging other people to illegally rip off their IP, or spend a couple hundred bucks having a lawyer tell them to knock it off.
Personally, I wouldn't want to signal to the marketplace that if you rip off my brand, I might pay you for it.
Why do people keep doing this? (Score:2)
They have no right to market Nintendo's property for free, donations or anything.
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A trademark usage by someone other than the owner is legally and monetarily injurious
Copyright has nothing to do with this as you cannot copyright a likeness.
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A trademark usage by someone other than the owner is legally and monetarily injurious. This has been demonstrated time and time again in court.
You do not have a right to use someone's art or likeness thereof for your own designs, if it infringes on an actively used trademark.
Pokemon is an actively defended and pursued and most importantly monetized trademark. If nintendo does not sue, the trademark could be voided. They are obligated to protect their investment.
MdSolar (Score:2)
I'm sick and tired on MdSolar posting these anti-nuclear propaganda pieces!
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Also, even though the infringed on Nintento's copyrights, they built a popular app and it didn't cost Nintendo anything. They should offer to buy the company and app for a small price (something not neither insulting nor outrageously high...
We don't strictly know that they didn't. Under an NDA, they likely wouldn't be allowed to say why they took down the links - but they would definitely have to and this is a way that would definitely generate a ton of PR. If they were being bought out, this would not be a bad way of going about it. On the other hand, people stumble on better plans by accident than usually happen by intention.