Wordle Is Watching You (gizmodo.com) 69
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: It's been less than a month since the New York Times bought Wordle, but it's wasting no time in ruining everyone's favorite word game in all the shitty ways you'd expect from a billion-dollar behemoth. And -- you guessed it -- that means your little daily puzzles are being loaded with ad trackers now, too. Most of us assumed that this was going to happen eventually. I mean, the Times dropped a cool seven-figure sum on a game that's still free to play (at least for right now), so those profits would need to be recouped from somewhere. And this week, some code-savvy Worlders stumbled onto where that "somewhere" was: a dozen different trackers shoved into places where there were literally zero before. Taking a look for ourselves, Gizmodo found that some of the trackers were from the New York Times proper, but most were used to send data to third-party players like Google. [...]
Here's just one nightmare scenario out of the bajillion or so that could come out of a system like this: Ad trackers were created to shove t-shirts and mugs onto all of our timelines, but they can also be used for outright surveillance. There are countless cases of cops using the data gleaned from those shitty ads to track protestors, immigrants, and anyone else they'd want completely warrant-free. And two of the companies that officers tap on the regular for this work -- Google and Oracle (via its infamous Bluekai subsidiary) -- are tied up in Wordle's shiny new trackers. Every time you open the page to see the day's puzzle to complain about how hard it is, the page pings details back to those companies -- and the data it shares can be extremely detailed, as Bluekai's own documents (PDF) lay out. At the very least, it's likely sending broad strokes to say you were on the site at a certain time, while your device was at a certain location.
Sure, adtech players can (and will) pull much shadier shit to share more data on the regular. But as a for instance, if a cop wanted to set a geofence warrant around your neighborhood -- tracking which devices are caught in a specific area at a specific time -- they could easily tap into Bluekai's ad data to get those wheres and whens. And now the fact that you Wordle'd at your local coffee shop on a Tuesday becomes one of the reasons that you ended up on some fed's watch list for a crime you didn't commit but will somehow end up jailed for anyway. This absolute nightmare is almost certainly not what's happening on Wordle right now (phew). And again, this scenario applies to most of the sites you likely visit every day, not just Wordle. But the real scary part about all of this -- at least to me -- is that it can.
Here's just one nightmare scenario out of the bajillion or so that could come out of a system like this: Ad trackers were created to shove t-shirts and mugs onto all of our timelines, but they can also be used for outright surveillance. There are countless cases of cops using the data gleaned from those shitty ads to track protestors, immigrants, and anyone else they'd want completely warrant-free. And two of the companies that officers tap on the regular for this work -- Google and Oracle (via its infamous Bluekai subsidiary) -- are tied up in Wordle's shiny new trackers. Every time you open the page to see the day's puzzle to complain about how hard it is, the page pings details back to those companies -- and the data it shares can be extremely detailed, as Bluekai's own documents (PDF) lay out. At the very least, it's likely sending broad strokes to say you were on the site at a certain time, while your device was at a certain location.
Sure, adtech players can (and will) pull much shadier shit to share more data on the regular. But as a for instance, if a cop wanted to set a geofence warrant around your neighborhood -- tracking which devices are caught in a specific area at a specific time -- they could easily tap into Bluekai's ad data to get those wheres and whens. And now the fact that you Wordle'd at your local coffee shop on a Tuesday becomes one of the reasons that you ended up on some fed's watch list for a crime you didn't commit but will somehow end up jailed for anyway. This absolute nightmare is almost certainly not what's happening on Wordle right now (phew). And again, this scenario applies to most of the sites you likely visit every day, not just Wordle. But the real scary part about all of this -- at least to me -- is that it can.
this is the tech world (Score:5, Insightful)
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There's nothing free in this world. If someone has spent time and money to create something that they give to you for free, then they intend to get paid in some fashion down the road (either through future sales, ad views, monetizing your data, etc.).
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They did not however create any of this. They bought it from the person who created it, who had it online for free, without any intrusive ad trackers or monetization at all.
That's how creative a get paid! (Score:3)
Yeah the guy who built it didn't monetize it , he sold it. That's how most innovators get paid. The person who buys it is someone who knows how to make money with it.
For example , most science patents or copyrighted science software doesn't make money because the scientist built a company to make the patented product but because they sold or liscenced it to someone who can.
This is a good thing. Creators get paid and get to keep doing what they love: creating.
Slashdot is watching you (Score:3)
My iPhone blocks an insane number of trackers on slashdot .
Recently my iPhone safari developed a problem with slashdot after I turned on the iPhone tracking protection . I no longer stay logged in. What's up with that? Doesn't slashdot use first -party cookies to maintain persistent logins? Or is safari blocking those too? I suspect the new Apple iOS is obscuring my IP address to slashdot ( yay!) but surely cookies still work?
This isn't happening to me on other sites. So I'm wondering if slashdot is u
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I use Slashdot without Javascript activated at all, and it works mostly fine.
Of course you need to use the classical layout, since all the fancy schmancy new stuff obviously doesn't work without JS and its accompanying trackers.
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Allowing cookies for *.slashdot.org allows me to stay logged in.
Simple solution: (Score:2)
Re: Simple solution: (Score:2)
No need to download anything, the original site is on archive.org.
Slow to start up, as usual with archived sites, but the game play is just fine.
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My understanding is that the original version shows the same word to everyone each day because the wordlist is in the code for the page itself. So, if you save a .webarchive or whatever your browser of choice uses, you will still get the same new word as everyone else each day*.
*Unless the NYT change wordle so that it does fetch the daily word from somewhere else, which is even more reason to grab a copy of the original. I'm not going to subscribe to a foreign newspaper just to play a mildly amusing word g
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The NYT version was changed to use a different (sanitized) wordlist. So far as I know the word list is still part of the page, not fetched from somewhere else, but it's not the same as the original. Anyone playing the NYT version will be unable to compare their scores against their friends playing the classic Wordle game available from archive.org or on IPFS [dweb.link].
Re: Simple solution: (Score:2)
The site isn't actually on the Archive.org servers as this pops up
https://www.powerlanguage.co.u... [powerlanguage.co.uk] |
05:30:11 February 17, 2022
Got an HTTP 301 response at crawl time
Redirecting to...
https://www.nytimes.com/games/... [nytimes.com]
and then it redirects.
If someone plans on playing this a few years from now, they will have to look elsewhere for the archived pages.
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There is a copy of "Wordle Classic" (the pre-NYT version) hosted in IPFS [dweb.link]. The daily word won't match the NYT version, but it will match any other copy of the original—so just make sure your friends all play the classic version from IPFS or archive.org or anywhere else it can be found. The IPFS version has the advantage of being immutable; no one can change the word list without changing the content ID (and URL).
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I've seen no ads whatsoever, but I've only played wordle for a couple weeks. Maybe it's the adblock I have on my ipad.
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What will happen next? Will they ban offensive words like "slave" from the word list?
Oh wait.
It is the New York Times (Score:2, Insightful)
Re: It is the New York Times (Score:2, Troll)
Fuck Gizmodo (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm as anti-ad, anti-tracking as anyone, but this is just clickbait bullshit.
It's what every major website on the internet tries to do, and there is zero to do with Wordle except that it's the viral game of the month. Don't like it? Just play one of the hundred clones that have popped up in the last two weeks.
Or do what most of us here do and lock down your browser so there's minimal attack surfaces for this sort of shit.
If gizmodo was in any way a legitimate news outlet they'd have called out the top 1000 websites for this exact same behavior. But no, gotta jump on whatever is trending and make a huge deal about something that is a constant in our daily lives and which they don't post about every single fucking day for the last 10 years because there wasn't a trending website to carry their non-story.
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I'm as anti-ad, anti-tracking as anyone, but this is just clickbait bullshit.
It's what every major website on the internet tries to do, and there is zero to do with Wordle except that it's the viral game of the month.
...and they point this out themselves multiple times in the article and once in TFS:
And again, this scenario applies to most of the sites you likely visit every day, not just Wordle. But the real scary part about all of this -- at least to me -- is that it can.
so...yeah...
the author even call Gizmodo itself out for it in the article...
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Re: Fuck Gizmodo (Score:2)
Use the Ublock Origin plugin, browse any major website, watch that counter tick up high.
All major websites are infested with trackers and other unwanted shit.
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Re: Fuck Gizmodo (Score:2)
NYT protects me from their narrative by paywalling their site at every turn.
Game is 100% client-side, save a local copy (Score:2)
The game is also COMPLETELY client-side. The words are all stored internally and it selects the day's current word from a simple date-based algorithm.
Save a local copy, strip out the garbage, and play it free forever.
Re: Game is 100% client-side, save a local copy (Score:2)
There is the added advantage of creating your own wordlist, and passing out offline copies to your friends.
I would be very surprised if somebody hasn't created an editor and tool to fully automate this process by now.
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It's ridiculous how much the game has been dissected already. There are already bot leaderboards and statistical analysis galore. Soon there will be PhD dissertations with titles like Optimizing Machine Learning Techniques to Bifurcate Wordle Search Space.
I'm only seeing two google things being blocked (Score:5, Informative)
uBlock Origin is only detecting two things, something about Google Tags, which it has blocked. Privacy Badger shows nothing.
Contrast that with this very Slashdot page, where uBlock Origin is blocking 8 things, and privacy badger is blocking two, ml314.com and c.aaxads.com.
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On Gizmodo, uBlock Origin is blocking 22 thing, and Privacy Badger is blocking no less than 11 trackers! Pretty much pure hypocrisy, Gizmodo!
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Contrast that with this very Slashdot page, where uBlock Origin is blocking 8 things, and privacy badger is blocking two, ml314.com and c.aaxads.com.
Yeah, and it keeps trying, too. Just leave the Slashdot front page loaded for a day or so and your blocked tracker attempts will be up into the thousands. BizX is sleazy AF. Which, frankly, we knew.
So very Scary /s (Score:2)
Wordle always had Google Analytics (Score:4)
The original version of the game had Google Analytics tracking code baked into it. At least that much of the article/report is wrong since it's not actually new.
It's kind of funny how Gizmodo, known for putting ads and tons of user tracking across their own website, are "calling out" the NYT for the exact same practice.
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No kidding! Privacy Badger is blocking no less than 11 trackers on the Gizmodo article link in the summary. Come on, Gizmodo!
Re: Wordle always had Google Analytics (Score:2)
Pot Kettle Black
Maybe it's to divert attention from their own activities? S-)
Let's get these out of the way... (Score:2)
Someone a bit more savvy is going to mention privoxy.
Someone may even mention Tor and VPNs.
These all have their drawbacks, but they are options. We are all citizens of Eumeswil.
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I'm definitely going to use Tor and at least 4 VPN layers to play Wordle. This game is so subversive!
This article was brought to you by NordVPN (Score:3)
Re: This article was brought to you by NordVPN (Score:2)
Can we be sure NordVPN isn't doing their own tracking?
Gizmodo (Score:2)
... unlike gizmodo, which Brave blocked 18 trackers on, Brave only found 2 on wordle.
Pot, kettle, same shade.
Re: Gizmodo (Score:2)
(Drug dealer)
"Hey pigs! That guy over there is smoking crack!"
Brought to you by the paranoid free lunchers (Score:2, Informative)
Wordle is a game. If you like it, play it. Otherwise be part of the control group. It costs money to serve,and obviously the money will be paid for by tracking, just like any other service.
At t
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At this point there is no login, can be run behind a VPN with all other counter measures enabled.
Or even better, it you could create your own CLI implementation of the game in your favorite scripting language with about 10 minutes of coding and a copy of /usr/share/dict/words.
Re: Brought to you by the paranoid free lunchers (Score:2)
Capitalism is king, you commies!
Companies have the right to abuse and control us because freedom!
If you don't want to be abused and controlled, then it must mean you are a communist freeloader.
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I grabbed the code before the sale (Score:2)
Sometime when I'm bored, I plan to modify it so I can play a new Wordle anytime I want rather than just once a day. It looks like it should be pretty easy to do.
I guess it's a good thing I don't live in Missouri...
Re: I grabbed the code before the sale (Score:2)
RND, an extra long wordlist.
Very doable entirely within page.
We block all these anyway (Score:3)
So what's this?
A call to educate the newbies?
Sounds a bit like "Let's get torches and pitchforks and go to the castle."
Don't use it, piss off NYT (Score:2)
Wow, tinfoil hat much? (Score:2)
Wow, in one sentence we went from "playing wor
Are you surprised? (Score:2)
I mean is anyone surprised at this point? Snowden already told this years ago and we're still surprised?
That's why I use Firefox Portable.
Ya, but ... (Score:4, Interesting)
Will they track the words and if I can figure them out, to see how smart/dumb I am and tailor the ads for that? :-)
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Will they track the words and if I can figure them out, to see how smart/dumb I am and tailor the ads for that? :-)
I'll be playing the 3 letter version soon!
Muh Pravacay! (Score:2)
Play it offline (Score:2)
Wordle is written entirely inside the browser, and it does not need a server side component to run.
(And that is how people discovered word lists, anyway).
So grab your copy from the Web Archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/... [archive.org]
And set it on your own local http server, never pinging home, adding trackers, or serving ads.
Wordle has peaked (Score:2)
Re: Wordle has peaked (Score:2)
I'm sure the target audience aren't the hardcore games, or people under 60.
The fact that they are targeting a group who is not famously known to be computer savvy or aware of the rotten shitfest that modern gaming has turned into is very nauseating.
"code-savvy Worlders" (Score:2)
Enough already (Score:2)
Please, please shut the f*ck up about this damn game. Jeeze. Every other headline mentions it.
Re: Enough already (Score:2)
Wow w0rDlE must be the best new game for the 21st centurtly. I guess I better throw away my Playstation and game on Wordle.
Mext up: Simon. Which tracks you, and there are lootboxez everywhere.
Re: Enough already (Score:2)
Woooah, that was a typing trainwreck! :-(
or, you can play the non-commercial version (Score:2)
Sigh (Score:2)
They should start stocking those handheld electronic Scrabble games in the pharmacies again. No internet, no apps, no trackers, no computers. Just a simple device that goes beep and bloop and entertains Grandma.
Never again ... has the concept become IP? (Score:2)
The game isn't new. The creator used an existing idea. But now that's it's sold does that mean no one else can create a free version?
Here's a standalone Wordle game (Score:2)
https://github.com/Giraut/Word... [github.com]
This one doesn't track you :)