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Discouraging Playstation Vita Details 275

Posted by Soulskill
from the blaming-the-media dept.
itwbennett writes "Sony's new handheld gaming system, the Playstation Vita, launches in Japan in two weeks, and the latest report from Andriasang has some interesting details, including Sony's decision to go with proprietary memory cards. Sony says this is both for security reasons and to ensure a consistent experience for all users, but that 'doesn't explain why they're charging such enormous sums for these cards,' says blogger Peter Smith. 'The caveat here is that we haven't seen official pricing for the cards, but game retailer Gamestop lists them at $120 (!!) for a 32 GB card, $70 for a 16GB, $45 for 8 GB and $30 for a 4 GB.'"
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Discouraging Playstation Vita Details

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  • First (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:17PM (#38271826)

    which is why I don't buy Sony anymore...

  • "Security" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ksd1337 (1029386) on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:17PM (#38271842)
    "Security" = trying hard to make sure consumers can't jailbreak their own devices.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:17PM (#38271844)

    Sony loves proprietary formats and the market is awash in cheap storage. This is a way to make memory valuable again, but I won't be surprised if someone is demoing a way to use SD cards on the thing within a year of launch.

  • Ahem... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Moheeheeko (1682914) on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:20PM (#38271894)
    'doesn't explain why they're charging such enormous sums for these cards,'

    Because they can.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:20PM (#38271900)

    This just means that someone in China will be making money off selling an adapter for microSD cards.

  • by rwven (663186) on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:21PM (#38271916)

    The problem is that in today's market, with so many viable alternatives for mobile gaming entertainment, the insane cost of memory is going to be a deal breaker for most users.

    Sure it has pretty graphics, but that's almost certainly going to be the one-and-only thing going FOR the Vita. I can't think of a single other argument in support of buying one of these.

  • Re:"Security" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by sohmc (595388) on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:24PM (#38271954) Journal

    This isn't so much about security as it is about a consistent revenue stream. They're following the "Gillette" model where they take a loss with their actual product, but make up the money in the sale of accessories.

    Sony is notorious for this. They have memory sticks that only work with Sony products. This is why I will never buy a Sony product.

  • This is Sony (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:25PM (#38271976)

    The reason they're doing this is because fuck you.

  • Re:"Security" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by what2123 (1116571) on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:28PM (#38272022)
    The difference with Gillette is that they sold you a product that did exactly what you wanted it to. Sony seems to keep selling things that do something one day, then as if it was a game, take away features to make it less-usable then the previous day.
  • Re:"Security" (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Starteck81 (917280) on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:30PM (#38272082)

    "Security" = trying hard to make sure consumers can't jailbreak their own devices.

    Anyone who is surprised by this has obviously forgotten the whole root kit episode. Sony, I buy as few of your products as I can now.

  • Don't Like it... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by jellomizer (103300) on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:31PM (#38272084)
    Don't Buy it.

    It is only a Video Game System. No one is forcing you to get one.
    I'm sorry I feel little pity for people who cry Foul because their Video Games cost too much.
  • by sacdelta (135513) on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:34PM (#38272130)

    The only difference between the iPhone 4s 32Gb and 64 Gb is 32Gb of memory. The difference in price is $100. Are you all going to vilify Apple the same way for not including the ability to insert SD cards?

  • Re:First (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Firehed (942385) on Monday December 05, 2011 @05:45PM (#38272324) Homepage

    It's not like it should come as a surprise to anyone that Sony has chosen to create yet another proprietary format (and attempted to lock it down beyond simply being incompatible with anything else). They got away with it in the '80s and '90s because they actually made good hardware and the concept of interoperability barely existed. The only time they've had any real success with it was Blu-Ray, and I'm sure that hasn't seen the adoption they'd like since legal download services so shortly after its introduction, and their attempts to force it down everyone's throats have certainly been expensive. Today the reverse is true - their products tend to be sub-par and we increasingly expect stuff to work across our devices, but they're still stuck in the past.

  • by Mordermi (2432580) on Monday December 05, 2011 @06:00PM (#38272564)

    Is Sony even relevant? The sales of the PS3 have almost caught up to the Xbox 360, even with being released a year later. Yes, the Playstation Move is really lacking.. But Sony is still a big player in the game.

  • Re:"Security" (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Golddess (1361003) on Monday December 05, 2011 @06:09PM (#38272684)

    Sony seems to keep selling things that do something one day, then as if it was a game, take away features to make it less-usable then the previous day.

    I dislike Sony as much as anyone else here, but OtherOS is the only thing I've seen like what you've just described. What other things have they taken away from products after purchase?

  • Re:Gouging (Score:5, Insightful)

    by medlefsen (995255) on Monday December 05, 2011 @06:15PM (#38272756)

    So what should a free individual do when they don't like what a company is doing? Maybe refrain from purchasing from them? Maybe tell friends and advise them to not buy from them either? Maybe even go on to a web site and post about it? Tell me when I start suggesting something unreasonable.

    I'm not sure how this happened but at some point poeple got confused and started thinking that because companies are set up to always maximise profits we shouldn't be allowed to criticize any of their attempts to do so. There is a difference between wanting government regulation and using your right as a free person to criticize the actions of a company.

    Sony is being anti-consumer and as a consumer that pisses me off. Other companies have found ways to make money without resorting to the lock-in BS that Sony prefers. I will not buy from them, and I will say why very loudly so that they and everyone else knows exactly why they aren't getting my business.

  • Re:Good thing (Score:3, Insightful)

    by sd4f (1891894) on Monday December 05, 2011 @06:45PM (#38273186)

    And sony also has to following to its name;

    Minidisc
    UMD
    Atrac
    SACD
    memory stick (incl. MagicGate)

    Sony loves proprietary gear, probably more so than any other company, they seem to persist with them a lot, and quite a few of them have been failures, atrac in particular, if they didn't persist with atrac and tried to make a digital music player people actually wanted, i doubt the ipod would have been a success.

  • Re:Good thing (Score:5, Insightful)

    by pionzypher (886253) on Monday December 05, 2011 @07:26PM (#38273820)

    Vita would use NGV memory cards due to size, weight, lack of noise, and other factors..

    I'm fairly certain that few people would find a micro-SD card too heavy or too big. Also, I can't recall what noise my micro-SD card makes... anyone?


    Every one of those reasons is spurious. Let's just call it what it is. It's Sony being Sony; and that's ok.

  • Re:Profit (Score:3, Insightful)

    by The Mister Purple (2525152) on Monday December 05, 2011 @07:36PM (#38273942) Homepage
    Everything's legal in China, it's the American way!
  • Re:"Security" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by antifoidulus (807088) on Monday December 05, 2011 @08:08PM (#38274304) Homepage Journal
    It doesn't matter, they have set a precedent that is incredibly off-putting. If they didn't want to put it in future products, fine whatever, but the fact that they would go and intentionally disable a product I already paid money for is unforgivable. Imagine if you bought a swiss army knife then after you already paid money for it the company came and demanded that it be allowed to remove the screwdriver from the knife... yeah the knife still works for the most part, but now it does less than it did when you paid for it, and the company went out of its way to do so. So what is to prevent them from removing features in the future? Maybe they don't want to support the 3g modem on the vita in a few years, just push out an update that removes that functionality. No problem right?
  • Re:"Security" (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Golddess (1361003) on Monday December 05, 2011 @10:12PM (#38275436)
    True, but they didn't break into your house and replace your old PS2 with a slim, did they? Your old PS2 still worked the same as it did the day you bought it, right?

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