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Microsoft Kills Xbox One Phone-Home DRM 547

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from the take-this-cloud-and-shove-it dept.
One of the biggest criticisms of Microsoft's recently-announced Xbox One console was that it would require an internet connection once every 24 hours in order to keep playing games. Enough people complained about the DRM, and Microsoft listened. Today, they announced that they're removing the phone-home requirement. "After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360." They've also scrapped the game trading and resale system they'd built, which allowed publishers to set their own rules with regard to used game sales. "There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360." Unfortunately, that also means users won't be able to take advantage of the good parts of the original system, such as trading and gifting games without needing the disc, or sharing games with remote family members. "While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds." Also noteworthy: they've dropped region-locks as well.
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Microsoft Kills Xbox One Phone-Home DRM

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  • Whoosh (Score:5, Funny)

    by Gr8Apes (679165) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:12PM (#44054119)
    Whew, that chair was clos.....
    • Re:Whoosh (Score:4, Insightful)

      by ackthpt (218170) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:29PM (#44054319) Homepage Journal

      Whew, that chair was clos.....

      That they even thought of such a concept and it was approved, which it must have been, at the highest level, Mr. Ballmer should be wary of himself wielding chairs and he may be his most worthy target.

      Does anyone reading about this Phone-Home DRM hold out much hope of a re-org which will position Microsoft as a viable and large player in the business (and consumer) markets in time to come?

      • Re:Whoosh (Score:5, Interesting)

        by cod3r_ (2031620) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:33PM (#44054387)
        Yeah exactly. How could they not see this coming?? Another scenario of people creating a product that they don't use..
        • Re:Whoosh (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:45PM (#44054525)

          Yeah exactly. How could they not see this coming?? Another scenario of people creating a product that they don't use..

          Easy. Cynical ploy to get us to all think about the not-so-much-suck parts now and think Microsoft's not so bad. They were never going to go through with those crazy ideas in the first place. Now we're all going to be talking about them again and putting them right in the public consciousness again. Thanks for falling right into their marketing trap.

          This has been a free lesson in psychology that the internet wishes it could ignore: Hatred is so easy to exploit and control. How's it feel to be a tool? Does it make you want to RAAAAAAGE all over the internet? Good, good, you'll be useful to them later. They'll find you when they need you.

          • Re:Whoosh (Score:5, Insightful)

            by geminidomino (614729) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:59PM (#44054653) Journal

            It's not impossible that this is the case, but I can't help thinking it might have been better for them to pull back the sheet at E3 instead of doing Sony's job for them.

            That said, fuck 'em. Still ain't buying any of them.

            • by cbhacking (979169)

              While you are, of course, completely welcome to buy or not buy as you wish... we (the potential customers, and also the people who were pissed off by the announced situation) need to applaud this move. Microsoft (and the industry as a whole) needs to see that giving people what they want has benefits. If everybody says "Wow, took you long enough to figure that out... fuck you anyhow", then the message that the industry will take away is "The Xbox One was a flop anyhow; nobody actually gave a damn about the

              • Re:Whoosh (Score:5, Insightful)

                by hairyfeet (841228) <bassbeast1968@NOsPAM.gmail.com> on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @10:28PM (#44056801) Journal

                Uhhh it'll be a flop anyhow not because of the DRM, but because they are releasing a console with shittier specs than the other guy for $500 in a down economy. I'm sorry but that is fucking RETARDED, and if the reports are true that a LOT of that extra cost is forcing everyone to take the fucking Kinect, which NOBODY liked the God damned Kinect so you have saddled your console with a higher price tag to push shit your customers never liked? Well i'm sorry but you deserve to lose for being stupid.

                Hell the Kinect is so damned bad the fans of Angry Joe keeping voting for Kinect games for him to play just because they know they'll be fucking awful and love to see Joe flip his shit trying to fight the damned Kinect. If you haven't seen Joe play Steel Battalion [angryjoeshow.com] you really need to watch, he just fights and struggles against the kinect until he is just a ball of pissed off fury.

                Mark my words Kinect will go down like the NES glove or the Sega bazooka in the "man that was stupid" pile, but not until MSFT keeps flogging the dead horse long past anyone caring, like how they cranked out Zunes long after people gave a shit.

          • Re:Whoosh (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Miseph (979059) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @06:10PM (#44054753) Journal

            Hmm... interesting, but no, it almost certainly didn't happen that way.

            For one thing, the retraction will never make as much news as the initial announcement. For another, there is enormous risk that, whatever they say, people will suspect that these schemes still exist (even if they are, for the time being, disabled) and avoid the system out of fear that they will be implemented later.

            If this manages to work out in their favor, which is almost certainly not going to happen, it will be a miracle. Far more likely is that they are hoping to win back those customers who were fleeing toward the PS4 due entirely to the DRM issues but honestly prefer the XBox experience and crossing their fingers that by the time the consoles actually drop people have either largely forgotten (which is certainly possible) or, even better, that Sony screws something up even more (which is also certainly possible, Sony did think it was a good idea to deploy pirated rootkits). Expect them to walk on eggshells for the next few months, just to make sure they don't reignite the matter.

            • Re:Whoosh (Score:5, Insightful)

              by mjwx (966435) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @07:48PM (#44055671)

              For one thing, the retraction will never make as much news as the initial announcement. For another, there is enormous risk that, whatever they say, people will suspect that these schemes still exist (even if they are, for the time being, disabled) and avoid the system out of fear that they will be implemented later.

              Frog... Boiling...

              Wait until people become financially and emotionally invested in the XBone and then spring it on them. The system is already in place, it just needs to be activated. Because people are too emotionally attached to their favourite console and dont understand the fallacy of sunk costs they'll keep spending money on it.

              You have to admire Microsoft for this in a diabolical kind of way.
              1. Generate huge amounts of publicity with a bad idea(TM).
              2. Claim to revoke bad idea(TM) and generate even more publicity.
              3. People buy product.
              4. Bring back bad idea(TM), muhahahahahahahaha, fools.
              5. Fail to make a profit for years as the product is sold as a loss leader.

              It's almost Bond level of villainry. Bravo Microsoft.

              • Re:Whoosh (Score:5, Insightful)

                by David_Hart (1184661) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @08:01PM (#44055769)

                For one thing, the retraction will never make as much news as the initial announcement. For another, there is enormous risk that, whatever they say, people will suspect that these schemes still exist (even if they are, for the time being, disabled) and avoid the system out of fear that they will be implemented later.

                Frog... Boiling...

                Wait until people become financially and emotionally invested in the XBone and then spring it on them. The system is already in place, it just needs to be activated. Because people are too emotionally attached to their favourite console and dont understand the fallacy of sunk costs they'll keep spending money on it.

                You have to admire Microsoft for this in a diabolical kind of way.

                1. Generate huge amounts of publicity with a bad idea(TM).

                2. Claim to revoke bad idea(TM) and generate even more publicity.

                3. People buy product.

                4. Bring back bad idea(TM), muhahahahahahahaha, fools.

                5. Fail to make a profit for years as the product is sold as a loss leader.

                It's almost Bond level of villainry. Bravo Microsoft.

                This isn't any different than the RIAA, business lobbies, etc. Just look at copyright legislation in the Canadian Parliament or how banks became deregulated. Legislation is announced, people complain, a new watered down bill is passed instead. Cycle this through a few dozen times and all of the provisions in the original legislation is eventually enacted with lees than a whimper.

          • Re:Whoosh (Score:5, Insightful)

            by macson_g (1551397) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @04:05AM (#44058261)
            Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
        • Re:Whoosh (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Jane Q. Public (1010737) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @06:42PM (#44055085)

          "Yeah exactly. How could they not see this coming?? Another scenario of people creating a product that they don't use."

          Despite some of the other replies, I definitely agree with "How could they not see it coming?"

          I don't think it's a matter of a product they don't use. I think it's a lot more about just being completely disconnected from their actual customers. They really don't have a f*cking clue what people want, despite years of people screaming at them that they DON'T want DRM or "phoning home". When I say years, I mean like 15 years.

          I think the only reasonable conclusion is that they literally don't listen to their customers. And that's Not A Good Thing.

          • Re:Whoosh (Score:5, Interesting)

            by hairyfeet (841228) <bassbeast1968@NOsPAM.gmail.com> on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @10:53PM (#44056951) Journal

            Hell we have proof of that, look at the Windows 8 beta. You had no less that 3 betas, DP,CP, and RTM, and the entire time the testers were saying "OMG this fucking suuuuucks!" and the reviewers were calling it "Windows Frankenstein" and saying things like "Don't buy it" but what did MSFT do? Not only released that giant POS but we are now finding out Win 8.1 is everything you HATE about Windows 8 ONLY WORSE,, with even MORE focus on WinTablets (which nobody is buying), even MORE of the metro shit, its the Transformers 3 only without the cool robot battles to cover for the douchbaggery.

            So I don't see how anybody could argue that MSFT wasn't suffering from a MASSIVE disconnect with their customers, fuck you could have just walked into any shop that sold Windows PCs and we could have told you that shit wasn't gonna sell, i had people pass Win 8 systems for Win 7 systems half as powerful just so they wouldn't have to take Windows 8. Hell I didn't see as much hatred with Vista and WinME, the public DOES NOT LIKE IT yet they keep killing their sales by trying to force that piece of garbage down everyone's throats just because "hey Apple is big in tablets"...well you ain't fucking Apple so just cut that shit out already! YOU SUCK AT THIS, you know what MSFT reminds me of right now? You know the annoying "comic relief" they put in kid's cartoons that is always "watch how great I am...FAIL FAIL FAIL"? THAT is MSFT, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory by just being terribly inept.

            • by ynp7 (1786468)

              How about you try listing a few actual issues with Windows 8. I'm still waiting to hear any from the complainers, who seem to exclusively fall into one of two camps: 1) bitches who can't get over the start menu and 2) bitches who haven't fucking used it.

              If you're going to claim Windows 7 is fine but Windows 8 is not you're an idiot who doesn't know what they're talking about. They're practically the same thing when it comes down to actually using them.

          • by MBC1977 (978793)
            True, customers may not want DRM, but businesses don't want to lose money to pirates and the used games market. Personally, I think their implementation was flawed approach, but I understand the reasoning: you don't go into business and invest capital to give away the store.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by mwvdlee (775178)

        If it wasn't for the PS4, MS would have never dropped those requirements.
        As it was, PS4 was vastly superior (atleast on paper) to the XBone offering.
        Now, the XBone is on par on some key consumer issues and may just be able to offset expense, inferior hardware and lack of indy gaming with their Kinect.

    • Re:Whoosh (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Penguinisto (415985) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:38PM (#44054445) Journal

      Meh - I smell a trial balloon that fell with a thud.

      I can see them floating it out there to get reactions, that they can then show the bigger and more assholish game studios (*cough*EA*cough*) and say "See? We told you this is a bad idea." ...that or Ballmer really is that frickin' stupid...

  • by stillnotelf (1476907) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:13PM (#44054125)
    I just had this conversation with a coworker:

    "Microsoft has--"

    "Yeah, I saw."

    "Well...they didn't have a choice. They're halfway there."

    • by mwvdlee (775178) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:58PM (#44054641) Homepage

      For convenience, I've added the missing part of that conversation.

      I just had this conversation with a coworker:

      "Microsoft has me sexually arroused"

      "Yeah, I saw."

      "Well...they didn't have a choice. They're halfway there."

  • GUYS~ GUYS~ (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Nrrqshrr (1879148) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:15PM (#44054147)
    Hmmm... but what will happen now? This might be good news, but this is what should have happened from the very beginning.
    So, even though they took it off for the Xbone, I fear that they simply paved the way for draconian restrictions by the next gen (if that happens someday).
    • by Rougement (975188)
      They lost this round but expect them to continue pushing their agenda. The only way to stop these anti-consumer tactics is to not buy an XBone. Sony doesn't get a pass either, their anti-consumer exploits are legendary.
  • by Spaztian (1041588) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:16PM (#44054151)
    This new Xbox 180 pretty much evens the console war again, it's going to be an interesting new generation.
  • Herp, meet Derp (Score:4, Insightful)

    by girlintraining (1395911) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:17PM (#44054169)

    We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds."

    Actually, we just want one world: The one we had before. And thank you kindly to get your creepy kinect out of our living rooms, thanks. We're already giving the paranoid, who thrive quite well in an anarobic environment, a veritable algae bloom of justified looking over their shoulder. You stepped in dog shit like you were laser guided, Microsoft.

    I don't think your reputation can be salvaged at this point... most people have already decided on the PS4, and will be leary of signing up since you're just a firmware update away from returning to putting 'em over a barrel. And yes, we do think you'd do just that, once the furvor dies down. We saw your memo. We know how you think. You won't give up this easily on your DRM locked down to hell shitty ass XBone.

    • Re:Herp, meet Derp (Score:5, Insightful)

      by SirGarlon (845873) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:21PM (#44054205)
      I'm tired of being called "paranoid" for not wanting the NSA to log my phone calls and Microsoft to install a webcam in my living room. Speaking of the world we had before ...
    • I win most: I ain't gonna get either :)

    • Re:Herp, meet Derp (Score:5, Insightful)

      by LordLimecat (1103839) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:34PM (#44054399)

      I don't think your reputation can be salvaged at this point

      We've heard that before when Sony...

      • Shut down LikSang
      • Went through the rootkit debacle..
      • and the related tactless "damage control" ("why should users care")
      • Handled the PSN breach in about the worst possible way for about 3 weeks
      • Killed OtherOS

      I could go on. And now of course people are talking about how great Sony is.

      The point is, yes, their rep can be salvaged, because people really dont care that much for very long.

      • Re:Herp, meet Derp (Score:4, Insightful)

        by RoknrolZombie (2504888) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @06:17PM (#44054819)
        Jebus, we've heard this story before with MICROSOFT. Talk about tarnished reputations - their Java fiascos, refusing to allow other browsers to be installed, Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows NT, and Vista. We're hearing it with Windows 8 as well.

        Face it, "reputation" is only significant with a very small portion of society, and unfortunately those people don't amount to much compared to the vast quantities of people that either can't be troubled enough to care about it, or people that just want their fuckin' toys and don't give two shits what it costs (speaking financially as well as privacy-wise). They have enough money to float for a few months, by which point we'll be pissed at someone else and will conveniently forget about Microsoft's transgressions.
      • by PhxBlue (562201)

        The point is, yes, their rep can be salvaged, because people really dont care that much for very long.

        Fair point, but Microsoft handed Sony the opportunity to reclaim their lost confidence with the gaming community and then some. Can't really fault Sony for taking full advantage of it.

  • How comforting... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:20PM (#44054193) Journal

    "Hey guys! I used to be for DRM; but when I saw that it would ruin my launch, I became totally against it! Don't worry, though, just because it would be trivial to alter the deal at any future time, either over the internet or through exciting and mandatory system updates baked into new disk releases, you can still trust me!"

  • by VinylRecords (1292374) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:20PM (#44054197)

    Forcing you to buy $100 Kinect with the system? Tracking your gaming habits and selling the data if you are connected? Tracking your movements with Kinect at all times? Putting online features that are on the discs of games behind an XBL Gold paywall? Forcing XBL Gold subscriptions to use other online services through your Xbox? Paying MS money for XBL Gold only to be bombarded by advertisements?

    I'll pass still. This is looking like a weak generation for gamers. Both the PS4 and XB1 have online locked behind paywalls (even for peer-to-peer games). The Wii-U is severely lacking in quality games geared towards older gamers. Hopefully the PC gaming developers take charge and win back some of the console players this generation.

  • by Gaygirlie (1657131) <gaygirlie@hotma i l . c om> on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:21PM (#44054207) Homepage

    The fact that the Navy blasted XBONE ( http://www.navytimes.com/article/20130614/OFFDUTY02/306140030 [navytimes.com] ) is probably the biggest reason Microsoft took such a drastic 180, not us regular consumers.

    • by interkin3tic (1469267) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:43PM (#44054491)
      That article discusses the kinect being labeled a security risk. They haven't taken the kinect out.
      • by Manfre (631065) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @06:48PM (#44055155) Homepage Journal

        Only a security risk if it has internet access. Without the mandatory internet access, it's easy to keep it off the internet.

    • by lightknight (213164) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @06:43PM (#44055091) Homepage

      Seriously, after what's his face said they had a product for people who couldn't regularly access the internet...the XBox 360, I can only imagine the somewhere in Redmond, WA, a bespeckled Gates looked away from the monitor with some disdain, and then facepalmed harder than he had ever done before in his life.

      If I were an investment manager, watching that particular commentary live, the first words out of my mouth, immediately after I managed to pick it up from the limo's floor, would be to 'sell that stock, sell it all, and short it until the kingdom comes!' I'd borrow from my friends to short that stock, and when they ran out of stock to short, I'd go door to door looking for more.

      There are simply some things that cannot be said when representing a multi-billion dollar software company unveiling its latest product, and he said a few of them. Frankly I'm amazed he's still alive, as I'd have had the guys in black shirts throw him into the back of a black minivan and driven across town as soon as the cameras turned the first time. I'd cop an excuse about him having recently taken some powerful blood pressure medications, and that the words spilling out of his mouth were in no way reflective of what MS thought or planned. I'd pay a group of security minded people to sit on him at a high-rise apartment, somewhere on the outskirts of town, until damage control could give me an estimate of just how much boot-licking and open bribery it would take to prevent the board from hanging me, let alone keeping everyone else on staff.

      "We already have a product for them, the Xbox 360" -> No, no, no. When they ask you a hardball question like that, and you know that you don't have the answer, shut the f*ck up. Tell them the honest truth -> "I do not know, but I will look into it, and attempt to get back to you on that as soon as I can." Instead he goes for the smart ass answer "the XBox 360," which was as good as saying "the Navy will take whatever we damn well feel like giving them; yesterday's meet is good enough for the likes of them." Dumb, dumb, dumb, a thousand times dumb.

  • by PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:24PM (#44054251)

    While you are playing your games, the clock ticks down it the upper right hand corner, reminding you that need to play that other game in the background. Your quest is to find an internet connection before the "24" clock runs out.

    And you get tortured and hounded by government creeps in the process. Feels real.

  • by jader3rd (2222716) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:24PM (#44054253)
    With this change they also removed the ability to share downloaded games, and the ability to share a game without lending the disk. Those must have been the primary drivers behind the phone home requirements.
  • by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:26PM (#44054285)

    The restrictions they put on the system were horrible their justifications for them were insulting.

    Above and beyond this could only happen if they thought we were idiots and simply wouldn't understand. They need to appreciate the distinction between lack of interest/awareness and actually being stupid.

    Most people are not stupid. They're oblivious. But not stupid. Explain the rules to people and they'll typically see what is going on pretty fast.

    MS tried to pull a fast one and was caught in the act. They've done this repeatedly with other product launches. It needs to stop.

  • Surprising (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Aaron B Lingwood (1288412) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:27PM (#44054287)
    As much as I enjoy bashing Microsoft, they have redeemed themselves a little by listening to their customers.
    They're reportedly on top of the security issue as well. A little focus on the areas of privacy, ethics, and standards might convince me to become a customer again.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Make no mistake, MS were prepared to make this "generous" move from the word go. They figured they'd give the restrictions a shot first, but they implemented the firmware in a way that these features could easily be turned off if necessary. For the Xbox One to reach shelves in November, production pretty much has to have already started; if MS had indeed just suddenly changed their mind and altered the firmware at the last minute, they'd have to retest the whole thing and delay launch. No, this option has a

  • They turned it off for now. What's to say they won't turn it back on a year or two from now?

    Still its amazing given the public's reaction to the roomers about the always on requirements they had an opportunity to "fix it" prior to launch and just say it was always just roomers. Seems they could have easily avoided the embarrassing public back pedal here and loss of trust.

  • People didn't complain. They simply told Microsoft off and said they'd choose Sony. Calling this complaining is like walking into your boss's office, telling him to go f*** himself, and walking out to another job that is just as good if not better that is waiting with open arms. Microsoft's response is basically like the old boss begging you to come back.

  • by Joe_Dragon (2206452) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:28PM (#44054309)

    Now can we get the start menu back? and maybe even Modern/Metro' apps being able to run in a window. With out needed to use a 3rd party add ons?

  • They should have announced some terminations to along with this news... That may have helped their story a little more.

  • Wow microsoft actually reacted to customers before it all went boom. The lessons from Windows 8 and Surface must be hitting home hard.

  • Way too late. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by barc0001 (173002) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:32PM (#44054367)

    Even the mainstream news cycle picked up the "Can you believe this shit" tone that was going around during and after E3. Many, many people have now firmly dismissed the Xbox One (or Xbone) as a choice based on that, and they're not going to be hearing that the restrictions have vanished because this correction isn't going to get nearly the traction the original story (and associated outrage) did. When you have active duty personnel penning columns in newspapers saying that Microsoft's basically decided to shit on all active servicemembers with the call-home and in-country requirement, a little retraction buried on page 29 isn't going to make it into many peoples' minds.

  • by Ron Bennett (14590) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:33PM (#44054385) Homepage

    What guarantee is there that Microsoft won't later re-enable the phone-home drm feature?

    (even if the system is never reconnected to the internet again after setup, it's conceivable an update could later be performed via a game disc with little to no notice to the user)

    Likewise, what guarantees are there that a game publisher itself won't roll out a game update that includes phone-home drm?

    On a related topic, what promises has Microsoft made regarding the always-on camera? Seems to me there's really no guarantee it can't be accessed without the user's knowledge unless there's a hardware way to turn it off (ie. an opaque cover over the camera).

  • by neminem (561346) <neminem@gmai l . c om> on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @05:49PM (#44054555) Homepage

    Sadly, I don't seem to have it written down anywhere, but the gist of it was that advertisers and politicians have long known that the best way to get people to eat rat-shit sandwiches is to heavily advertise a "rat-shit and garbage" sandwich, then after that media blitz, start another blitz saying "we listened to you! Our sandwiches no longer have garbage in them!"

  • by WillgasM (1646719) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @06:16PM (#44054807) Homepage
    I probably still won't buy one, but whatev. I've always been a PC gamer and never really got into the console market. I was contemplating hopping on board this gen, but the initial xbox specs instantly turned me off. PS4 just isn't an option. I refuse to buy anything from Sony even though the price is always right. I'd rather pay double somewhere else than give a penny to that shit-stain of a company. I even try to stay away from their movies. I've considered the Wii, but never seriously. If I want to play such casual games, I'll open my browser. Xbox was really my only option. That's where the games are. That's where my friends play. I definitely won't be standing in line on opening night, but this news gives me some hope. I'll wait and see how launch goes and just maybe with enough glowing reviews, I'll bite the bullet. Or maybe I'll keep dumping money into microtransactions on f2p mmos. We'll see.
  • by JDG1980 (2438906) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @06:32PM (#44054961)

    That's great. Can we have the Start Menu back now on Windows? (And no, a button going to the same crappy Metro screen as before doesn't count.)

  • by FuzzNugget (2840687) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @07:02PM (#44055295)

    Make a ridiculous threat that you *know* will invite revolt, then relent and follow through with the slightly less ridiculous (but still ridiculous) plan you had interned all along.

    Next time, scheduled phoning home won't seem so ridiculous. Well, maybe not next time, but the time after that, or maybe the time after that ... but it's coming.

    Also known as the Anchoring Effect
    http://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/07/27/anchoring-effect/ [youarenotsosmart.com]

    Just look at the shit we put up with MS Office and new Windows installations these days. No, you can't just have a disc, you need to spend a half hour entering all your personal info (mostly re-entering those fucking captchas because their shitty forms don't validate interactively) in an MS account so we can keep tabs on you and send you spam. Even then, you're not getting an installation package file, we'll only give you some brain dead all-in-one downloader that only works on *your* computer, provides absolutely no configuration options and doesn't tell you where the installer files are located (though they probably aren't even usable if you do find them). Sure, you *can* get installation discs if you cough up another $15 and wait a week.

    Fuck that, I'll head over to TPB and have a an ISO in 15 minutes.

    Do you think we'd have willing to choke down this shit sandwich even a few years ago?

  • Sony comes out with a ground-breakingly open game console (as modern mainstream game consoles go) which forces Microsoft to open theirs up, and recently opened one of their smart watches...could they actually be turning over a new leaf, opening up and providing something their customers want? This seems wrong. They were definitely one of the most evil megacorps just a few months ago.

  • by klingers48 (968406) on Wednesday June 19, 2013 @09:12PM (#44056303)
    Microsoft stuck the clutch on their paradigm shift.
  • by Mystery00 (1100379) on Thursday June 20, 2013 @12:16AM (#44057451)

    It wasn't "the people" they listened to, it was the sounds of Sony destroying them at E3.

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