Playstation 4 Vs Xbox One: Which Shares Better? 174
itwbennett writes "One of the new features that both Sony and Microsoft touted for their next-gen gaming consoles was easy sharing of gameplay videos. Peter Smith has put sharing to the test on both consoles, and (spoiler alert), found that both have plenty of room for improvement. There are pros and cons to each, but ultimately, which console does sharing best comes down to personal preference: 'I really hate that the Playstation 4 is limited to sharing on Facebook and I really like that the Xbox One saves to my Skydrive,' says Smith. 'But I hate having to wait for that upload to happen before I can go back to gaming.'"
Who Gives a Fuck, Which Shares Better? (Score:5, Insightful)
Who gives a fuck, which shares better?
The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?
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Who gives a fuck, which shares better?
The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?
Agreed. I use these things to play games, not to boats my uber awesomness in gameplay to the world. Who cares?
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somebody that likes having actual control of their files instead of handing everything over to FB
This applies to nobody using that "feature". The only target for "sharing what I played" is children/teenagers who want their classmates to see how "great" they are. Facebook is the obvious solution.
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The more I hear about PS 4 and xBox One -- the more I realize my next gaming platform is going to be a computer.
Every other day I have to fix the finicky networking on the xBox, and every month verify that it's "really me".
Of course every week now I've got a new blog to quit using because they want me to verify by FaceBook. I hate trolls as much as the next person, but I'd rather anonymous jerks than everyone installing that trojan horse POS, that has nothing better to do than find new ways to insert itself
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Cost? Lots of PC games cost $60. Oh look, same as console games! (This only happened the past couple of years).
And games? Well, if you w
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draw a circle of people who don't like FB. now draw a circle of people who like skydrive. who is in the overlapping area? people who work at MS.
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I almost wonder if a PC ends up being cheaper in the long run. You can get a lot of games on sale for really cheap now, while buying for a console is still going to run you 60 dollars, even if the game is old, the price will hardly drop, while you can grab best of the year games at the end of the year for 7 - 15 dollars on the PC. If you couple this with free to play games that are done well where you are having fun without spending any extra in them, you have way, way more gaming available to you for way l
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Also did they solve that annoying update thing.
They solved that quite some time ago with the PS3...at least if you have PSN+. With the PS4 it's all backgrounded.
I turn my console on about once a month. Every time... "we want to update this if you want to play your games *at all*"
Use it more often.
Oh look my PC will update itself and still let me play.
Your PC might, but the games that need updating won't...you'll have to wait till the update finishes....just like you do on consoles. So you'll be reading Slashdot while Pando-whatever updates your MMO client.
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It doesn't change the fact that the first year of a console's life is shit.
For game releases I would agree, mostly, but early model hardware hasn't been affected by any cost-reduction measures, a la removal of the link and expansion ports in the PSone, the lack of a hard drive bay in the PS2 slim, and the various things that Slim and Super-slim PS3's don't have that the Deluxe Fat PS3's do, in the name of getting the cost down.
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Re:Who Gives a Fuck, Which Shares Better? (Score:4, Insightful)
SPOILERS: The Slashdot demographic is a bit off center of the XBox/PS4's main target demographic. (In other words, MS and Sony don't give a fuck what you use it for)
Re:Who Gives a Fuck, Which Shares Better? (Score:5, Insightful)
Considering how locked down both systems are, I'd say they care very much what you use it for.
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I suppose it would be more accurate to say they don't give a fuck what you (a Slashdot user, typically separate from their main demographic) *want* to use it for.
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Considering the renewed attacks on gaming videos using takedown notices, I'm not sure it matters which one "shares better".
If it doesn't create a revenue stream in a direct way, Sony and Microsoft don't care if you have any particular feature.
Remember, these are corporations. They would throw a baby off a bridge for a dollar.
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I believe the preferred vernacular is that they would monetize the gravity-influenced baby-bridge altitude inversion if the ROI made sense.
Re:Who Gives a Fuck, Which Shares Better? (Score:5, Insightful)
The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?
That's obvious, PC. All hail the Gaben. [reddit.com]
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No, it's obviously consoles. PC gamers don't actually play games, they just play benchmarks for bragging points on their e-peens. Besides, after spending so much on their hardware they don't have money for games, that's why PC gamers in Europe and Asia are such pirates, and why PC GAmers in America are the "Only buy $5.00 games at steam sales" sorts of guys.
And if they do play a game it's just "one" game that they play over and over and over to the exclusion of everything else. Whether it be Starcraft, L
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My Steam library is currently 152 games, a lot of those having been bought full price... EU4 was the last. You're wrong, on every one of your comments.
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You're wrong, on every one of your comments.
I'm wrong...in regards to YOU, that doesn't mean that there aren't Filthy PC Gamer Bourgeoisie that fulfill the stereotypes I mentioned.
You may buy games at full price, but many of the Filthy Gabe Newell Worshipping PC Gamer Bourgeoisie here on Slashdot brag of paying no more than $5 per game... and then wonder why the PC version of cross-platform games is an afterthought.
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I've not met many of the "Filthy Gabe Newell Worshipping PC Gamer Bourgeoisie" here on Slashdot. The typical stereotype is open source, Linux and anti DRM. For most of Steam's existence, it's been the antithesis of all three of these things.
The reason lots of people are supporting Steam here, as I see it (and quite a lot are, despite the DRM), is that locking down hardware is bad for the consumer, always. Paying full price for the games is not the issue.
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For most of Steam's existence, it's been the antithesis of all three of these things.
Oh I agree on that.
The reason lots of people are supporting Steam here, as I see it (and quite a lot are, despite the DRM), is that locking down hardware is bad for the consumer, always.
Well I think the "argument" comes down to either:
1. Getting open hardware with more visible (and annoying) DRM, aka the PC
2. Getting locked down hardware with transparent to the user DRM, that you don't even notice. AKA a console.
I prefer 2 to 1, especially since I don't like Windows. Yes, that means my computer runs Linux but I game on the PS3/PS4.
Yes, there's Valve's future offerings...but that IMHO is going nowhere because:
1. It requires a Windows machine for some games, espec
Super duper Superman 64 (Score:5, Funny)
Super duper supermen!
You laugh, but the PC can emulate both Superman 64 and Superman 64. Commodore and Nintendo versions.
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HA HA HA. Best games? It's all about Hulu while streaming Angry Birds that your friends stop you playing so they can show you "just this one thing."
*Draws on a cigar*
Son, if people wanted to play a console for games, they wouldn't have bought a system that limits what games you are allowed to play. Everyone knows it's about chatting with friends over a webcam.
Now you'll excuse me while I go swim in all this money those suckers gave me.
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I couldn't agree more. I don't want a game console to anything else than play games. Period. To me, when xbox started the 'entertainment' features with HULU and Netflix, it seemed most of my friends list was watching some movie. Nobody is going to stop a movie to play a game. So at that point xbox went from being a game console to another tivo. And six seats? wow who wants to peer into that tiny screen?
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the most important thing of new tech is how you can brag to others that you have it. [...]
To be part of the inside club, you have to pronounce it correctly.
Hint: It is spelled X-Box, but pronounced Christbox.
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Well, you are all 8 years older now. Age tends to make toys a little less exciting.
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Re: Who Gives a Fuck, Which Shares Better? (Score:2)
Video games are a serious entertainment medium, certainly more interesting than some others like movies. They're not for kids.
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HDCP (Score:2)
invest in a HD PVR so you can control your own content, edit/annotate/narrate and upload wherever you want.
The questions and answers about this product [amazon.com] states that it'll work for the Xbox One, but the PlayStation 4 appears to have HDCP encryption to keep you from doing just that.
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The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?
Not to me. I never play any games on my PlayStation.
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The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?
To some. To others, the important question is which is a better entertainment device.
PS4 has the edge in gaming and the XB1 has the edge in home entertainment. Both are decent at both roles and much better than their predecessors.
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"The important question is; which is a better game play platform and which has the best games?"
Steam?
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Exactly that sharing feature is one of those big touted however, I really don't care type of feature.
Now I see two big problems with both the PS 4 and XBox One.
Problem 1: Subscription for more services. Yes it isn't too much, however I really don't want want an other bill to pay for, and if times get tough, games will be the first to go. the PS 4 is a bit better then XBox One is. At least I can still watch Netflix without paying Sony extra fees.
Problem 2: Family Games. I would like to see more games fit f
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what beta tag? I'm Not and Have Not seen any sign of it so wtf are you smoking?
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You missed being sucked off by a hyper-realistic solid hologram of ...
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... <insert crush name here>
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By "worthwhile" do you mean "rehashes of old games" or "actually original"?
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I'm a PS4 owner, so I can't tell you how the Xbox works.
Does either platform make it possible to completely disable/ignore the sharing features? (e.g. what happens if I accidentally press a sharing button?)
Nothing! You actually have to choose how you want to share, and if you don't give the PS4 any Twitch/Ustream/Facebook/Twitter info it can't do any sharing.
Can you completely disable/ignore content shared by other users if you're playing against them online?
Yes, nothing shows up during actual gameplay.
Can you run either platform totally offline?
Yes, but you'll miss out on system and game updates that way.
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Can you completely disable/ignore content shared by other users if you're playing against them online?
Yes, nothing shows up during actual gameplay.
You misinterpreted the question. If I don't want any video of my gameplay shared, but I'm playing against some kid who records and shares his uber-mad-leet skillz all the time, does his game not record the gameplay featuring me because of my preferences? I believe I'm SOL in that case and the footage of me gets shared against my wishes.
First WGASA? (Score:1)
So now that the current generation can't make the same technological jump that the previous one did (owing to the fact that it'd probably bankrupt them this time round), the "important" stuff is secondary done-in-software fluff like sharing?
Yeah, I know social media is where it's at, but this is depressing...
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A PC, Twitch, and Open Broadcaster.
How times have changed (Score:2, Insightful)
Here's me thinking "filesharing on a game console?" and then it's about posting your gaming "achievements" on a "social network". To me, gaming with friends means getting together with friends and playing games. Now get off my LAN.
PS4 is better for Sharing Your Drunk, Naked Wife (Score:4, Interesting)
Forget about sharing gaming videos.
What really matters is which one is better for sharing video of your drunk naked wife. [gamerevolution.com]
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Got a javascript heap spray alert from clicking on your link, yet another site to avoid!
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Eh, I use noscript, didn't have any problems.
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I doubt anyone appreciated that - she's nasty. Well maybe she'd be hot in Toowoomba, but let's not go there.
Back In The Day As Of '03 (Score:1)
Sony had a very intriguing product, PSX.
PSX had lots of "goods" for developers; at a little 'developer studio' along a backstreet in Shinjuku I saw and talked about using PSX with Flash (MX) and other code. And I saw lots of very awesome video renders.
Sony market PSX under Sony Corporation, not Sony Computer Entertainment! [see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_(video_game_console)]
That was then. Sad.
Microsoft Xbox One, to me from what I read --- been able to read or find what I was not supposed t
Spoiler alert: the reviewer is an idiot (Score:4, Insightful)
To quote, from the PS4 section: "When you tap the button your game is paused and the Share screen opens. Here you'll have 3 options: "Upload video clip," "Upload screenshot," and "Broadcast gameplay." The latter starts Twitch streaming, which the Xbox One doesn't yet support, so I won't cover it today."
So there's a feature on the PS4 to allow a form of sharing the XBOne doesn't have yet, so its not included in the line-up? How's that a fair comparison? People who want to share to Twitch should surely know that the PS4 already lets them do that *right now* and that should be included in the comparison, should it not?
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The narrative is that they're both pretty much equivalent choices. Never mind the Xbox One's higher price tag (a good Kinect title is bound to come out some day!) or its much weaker specs (here they mention that no one can even see 1080p anyways. Or even better, a comparison to the PS3's shining later in its life despite its weaker GPU, despite that being because the PS3 and 360 had completely different architectures, while the PS4 and XBOne are extremely similar)
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Five insightfuls, an overrated and two trolls ... possibly my most controversial opinion ever so far, gotta love gaming discussions.
OMG, ZZZZzzz (Score:3)
I don't understand why people would want to watch other peoples mediocre gaming skills.
"Look at me as a play a level in some generic shooter". zzzz
There are a few exceptions where I want to see the graphics, maybe to checkout the gameplay or a hint/guide/learn from someone. But let's face it 99% of the gameplay videos out there are just filling hard drives with useless pixels.
And I don't get what makes people think you would want to watch them do something as ordinary as playing a game?
In defense of the stream (Score:2)
Actually the one of the guys from Penny Arcade plays at times, and while he's not very good he is interesting to listen too as it sometimes turns into a running Q&A about Penny Arcade which can be very interesting.
Yeah 90% of streams are probably boring as hell to watch. But it opens up a lot of creative opportunity for people and I wouldn't dismiss it as worthless just because it follows Sturgeon's Law like everything else.
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When you upload worthy clips, they're also shown in a playlist on t
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More important question: (Score:5, Funny)
My question.. (Score:2)
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PS4 vs. XBONE (Score:1)
Which one charges you to use external services? (Score:1)
I second this. But xbox has really good clients (Score:2)
I really agree that Xbox360 should not charge for using streaming clients. Unfortunately, they seem to be the best clients for those services. Less skipping and lagging. Maybe its more memory to play with or a faster processor, but I prefer to watch on 360. And I dont want to prefer that because I dont want to pay again. And again. And again. Forever. Its intolerable! I need to figure out how much money a used 360 will bring. Maybe a roku3 will be just as good and I can put the money to
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Twitch, and probably Youtube (Score:2)
The PS4 can share to twitch.tv, which is the equivalent of uploading a video clip to the "Sky drive", except the upload is done in real time. Also, I suspect Youtube opened up their live streaming feature because of the release of the consoles (especially PS4); now that everyone can share their gameplay, they want to be a viable option.
Similar Problem (Score:5, Funny)
Who wants to read gaming FB updates? (Score:3)
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Seems relevant:
Nintendo of Japan President Satoru Iwata: "The primary use of Twitter and Facebook is not gaming, but a means of communication. Although I don't use either of them, if I did, I imagine I'd use it to talk about my outings and vacations to people who aren't exactly video game enthusiasts. I don't think my former classmates would care to hear about my new Mario Kart record and so on."
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It's an advertisement. It's not supposed to make your life better. It's supposed to extract money from you.
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Actually I think it's quite fitting, now rather than reading drivel from people about how they're new baby shat itself again or how someone broke down at some traffic lights - people whom I only begrudgingly accepted their friend requests so I don't have to answer that awkward "Why did you ignore my friends request on Facebook" if I ever bump into them in real life because I'm averse to crushing their souls by being honest and saying "Because you're really actually quite a boring, annoying, pointless person
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In my case, living in a different continent from my family and old friends I find FB nice to keep in touch and exchange pictures.
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people whom I only begrudgingly accepted their friend requests so I don't have to answer that awkward "Why did you ignore my friends request on Facebook" if I ever bump into them in real life
The way you talk about those disgusting babies and awkward "social things" -- I'm guessing this doesn't really happen to you too often.
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I didn't say anything about disgusting babies, you seem to be projecting your own view or something there, I just said I really don't give a shit if someone's baby has shat itself, it's uninteresting and I just don't care, and judging by the clear lack of response to such posts, I guess neither does anyone else.
As for bumping into people from my past whom I only begrudgingly add then yes you're absolutely right, it doesn't happen too often. I always figured this was normal given that I live amongst a popula
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This is obviously FIXED by the fact that people who post Gaming updates on FaceBook have no friends, and they use FaceBook for gaming updates and "liking" various Pizza companies to get coupons.
"David LIKES Death From Above Battle Ax Happy-Fun-Time" Wouldn't you want to LIKE this too?
what about sharing? (Score:1)
Which console offers better offline gaming? (Score:1)
That's all that matters.
I know know ... (Score:2)
Steam gaming machines.
Sharing is for the iOS generation (Score:2)
Privacy controls (Score:2)
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Personally I'd be more amenable to the console that shares the least, or at least has switches that control its behaviour. I would be more impressed by a console which strikes a good balance between privacy and the ability to share and allows users to adjust it further one way or the other as they see fit. And if someone doesn't want to Tweet, Like, live cast or whatever then there should be a simple checkbox in the settings which removes all that shit from the UI.
Exactly.
When I read the headline, my first thought was that they were obscurely talking about which console invades your privacy more (i.e., shares 'better')...disappointing to read the summary and realize they're talking about a fringe feature that only self-obsessed little wankers would care about.
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>>> 'I really hate that the Playstation 4 is limited to sharing on Facebook and I really like that the Xbox One saves to my Skydrive,
Translated:
I believe you are all stupid enough to not spot the obvious inconsistency in my claiming to really hate one proprietary locked down site but loving another. I also have a vested interest in only promoting and saying good things about Microsoft products.
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I can share easily with the PS4 on twitch, all I need.
Well that proves the article wrong in stating you can only share to Facebook. In fact you can share to an "Online Service" see here [playstation.com] although at the moment (it is coming) you can't upload to Youtube. Still I do agree with the first poster that games are more important and for those who need to share they have to realize that this feature is only available if the game actually permits it.
In the interim I will stick with my PS3 since I am not interested in the initial games for the PS4. Of course later on
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UStream as well.
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They only disabled streaming for PlayRoom, which is what was used to do that video. For those who don't know, PlayRoom is an Augmented Reality thingy that shows off the features of the PS4 Camera and DS4. It does so in a sort of EyePet style fashion, so you can see the room behind the little robots or whatever.
There was one couple who used the Playroom to create a sort of Talk Show that became a bit popular.
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You're not alone. This beta site is much, much worse than any of the previous redesigns that have been forced upon us over the years. While they made the site less-enjoyable and harder to use, they at least maintained some shred of what makes Slashdot worth visiting. The beta site loses all of it. It is by far the worst redesign I have seen of any website, ever.
Indeed, we all must speak up about this whenever and wherever we can. I don't think anyone who hasn't been forced into using the beta site yet knows
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Intellivision was the worst console ever.
Are you kidding, Intellivision was the the console to have in its day.
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Other games with demo recording support (Score:2)
Never mind the fact that demo recordings (rare as they were; Umihara Kawase and some sports games?) were supported by the games themselves
Super Mario Kart had an obscure "ghost" feature, and Mario Kart 64 and Mario Kart DS refined it. True, racing is a sport, but is karate a sport? Super Smash Bros. Brawl has the same sort of "replay".