GTA IV Delayed Into Next Year 138
1up has the news that Take Two is moving Grand Theft Auto IV's release out to Spring 2008. Sam Houser (the executive producer for Rockstar Games) says that the demands of creating games for the new consoles, along with the scope of the game, forced their hand to maintain the quality they wanted. "'With Grand Theft Auto IV, Rockstar is setting a new standard for next generation video games,' stated Strauss Zelnick, Chairman of Take-Two. 'Certain elements of development proved to be more time-intensive than expected, especially given the commitment for a simultaneous release on two very different platforms. We all recognize that perfecting the game is vital and I can assure everyone it will be worth the wait.'"
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of development proved to be more time-intensive than expected, especially given the commitment for a simultaneous release on two very different platforms. We all
recognize that perfecting the game is vital and I can assure everyone it will be worth the wait.'"
.....So do we all agree the delay is for Hot Coffee v2 [wikipedia.org]?
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The delay sucks but there are plenty of other game (Score:3, Interesting)
It sucks if you're a Take Two share holder though. Take Two & Rockstar would give Imagine [nvg.ntnu.no] a run for their money for fiscal mismanagement, broken promises and delays.
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I'd rather they fix those issues rather than release a piece of crap on the market.
And few fans of the series would think otherwise. But the problem isn't that the game as a whole is too far from completition, the problem is that the PS3 has been lagging behind more and more (hence why we've never seen a single screenshot of the PS3 build of the game) to the point that while they could get the Xbox 360 version in time, they wouldn't be able to do so with the PS3 version, and due to their agreements they c
I wonder how this will affect Sony (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:I wonder how this will affect Sony (Score:4, Interesting)
Heavenly Sword
Ratchet and Clank Future
Call of Duty 4 (cross platform)
Warhawk
Home (not exactly a game)
SingStar (will sell in Europe)
Assassin's Creed (cross platform)
Haze
Half Life 2 Orange Box (cross platform)
Rock Band (cross platform)
Guitar Hero 3 (cross platform)
Unreal Tournament 3
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Devil May Cry 4 (cross platform ?)
and some sports games
that's a pretty good list of highlights. Some will probably end up being delayed.
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Grand Turismo
Killzone 2
Metal Gear Solid 4
LittleBigPlanet
Many more. But all 4 of those should be huge.
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PS3 does have a strong lineup going into Christmas, but take out the multi-platform titles and the 360's lineup is undoubtedly stronger. PS3 needs a Halo or a Mass Effect or something which, rather than being a game you rush out to buy if you have a PS3, is a game you rush out to buy a PS3 to pla
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last I heard the PS3 version was delayed till 2008... however the pc and 360 version are coming out in the fall.
and what i've seen and heard of lair it's hardly a highlight, most of those unique ps3 highlights are questionable.
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Someone who wants to buy Call of Duty 4 is going to need a console. They have 2 console choices. They need to decide what else they want to play, how much they want to pay, and whether they want to risk red-ring-of-death issues.
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Though on this issue of Call of Duty, that wont really sell many consoles, just look at COD3 for 360, 1.6 million copies sold, that really wont move consoles. http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=2966 [vgchartz.com]
Assassin's Creed and GTA are the only cross platform games that look l
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COD4: Modern Warfare was Best Action Game at Mini E3 this year. It looks absolutely amazing.
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They may not be games you're aiming for, but I thought they were great and will definitely move units once people see them.
Lair has the potential to move units based on the dragons meme (people just like dragons), Ratchet and Clank is safe in Insomniac's hands, and Uncharted does look cool.
We'll have to wait and see. Oh... you forgot to mention Home on that list of exclusives. Yeah, its not a game, b
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Having played the Heavenly Sword demo, and been part of the Warhawk Beta test group, I think you're wrong.
I haven't played the Warhawk Beta, so I can't comment on that, other than pointing out that it's online-only and thus limited in mass appeal by definition. But I've played Heavenly Sword. The game looks like it's coming along nicely (although the demo doesn't show too much), but frankly, I doubt it has the mass appeal of a Tomb Raider, or even of a God of War.
They may not be games you're aiming for, but I thought they were great and will definitely move units once people see them.
Yeah, both games will shift PS3s, but how many of them? Sony need system sellers of the calibre of the original Tomb Raider, or a FF game, or an
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Re:I wonder how this will affect Sony (Score:4, Informative)
GT Prologue is supposed to come out in early 2008.
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Helps them, as it hurts Microsoft (Score:3, Interesting)
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Was that ever GTA4? Granted it was certainly the case for GTA3 for the PS2, but that was an exclusive release (originally) while GTA4 is going with a multi platform release. Maybe it would move some PS3s, but I think the 360 version will sell more copies of the game due to the larger install base, lower console price, and upcoming additional exclusive content. If anything this would have helped Microsoft sell console
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Final Fantasy XIII is a ways off, but isn'
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If by Dragon Warrior you mean Dragon Quest I'll have to disappoint you, Dragon Quest 9 is a DS exclusive, all the PS3 might get is a spinoff like the Wii did.
Final Fantasy XIII is a ways off, but isn't it going to be like three separate games at once?
I think it's more than three but scattered across several platforms (including cellphones).
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LittleBigPlanet
Unreal Tournement
Haze
Drakes Fortune
Warhawk
There are the ones reeled off my head, there are plenty into 2008, like MGS4, Final Fantasy, Killzone 2 and soforth.
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Console Sellers like Mario, Halo, or GTA, which sold 11, 8, and 12 Million respectively are in a class of their own.
The games you listed compare more to things like Paper Mario and Crackdown. Good high selling games that are f
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Please cite.
Now that exclusive content is DELAYED. So the question should be "How will this affect Microsoft".
Except when the game comes out, MS and Sony will still be where they were before. The difference is that Sony will go another holiday season at a disadvantage, according to the OP.
Sony has a HUGE library of AAA exclusives coming out in the next 1-6 months so they will be fine.
Yes, we know. You tell us in every single thread.
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How about here [arstechnica.com], here [dailytech.com], or directly from Take-Two [seekingalpha.com].
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No marketing emails about this one eh? (Score:4, Interesting)
Yeah, this is a jab at Take-Two for repeatedly sending marketing emails out about a release date for a trailer for GTA IV. No, not a release date for the game, just a release date for a short trailer that shows very little if anything about the game.
I thought it was a bit excessive for them to email multiple times about a trailer. I can see emailing once, but I got a number of emails about the same thing. Wow, big deal guys. I would have been more interested in the later emails if they were going to be showing something of substance in the trailers, but they just showed some typical cutscene-style stuff. Blah, sure I'm burning karma with this post but I found it a bit frustrating to get constantly teased about a game (no, not even the game, a TRAILER for the game) and shown almost nothing. Now the game is delayed but of course I didn't receive that in my email inbox, did I?
It WILL be worth the wait (Score:1)
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How much do you want to bet... (Score:2)
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If they want to maintain their adult audience, it should be rated "M". Part of what sets GTA apart from other great games is that it has a grown-up storyline (as opposed to silly Japanese stuff). I certainly wouldn't be interested in playing a "PG" version of GTA. That would be lame. What would the missions be? "We want you to go tell Mr. Koomba that he's a 'poopy-head'"? C'mon...
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More buyers (Score:1)
GTAIV Looks Like Crap (Score:1, Insightful)
The environments are nowhere near next gen levels.
The art and characters are dreadfully drab compared to previous games.
Early previews of the game say it is a mess huge framerate problems, horrendous pop-in for geometry, and so on.
I have a hard time believing that this will be anything but the least popular GTA in the series. You really have to wonder if something major has gone wrong at Rockstar with key people leaving or other internal staffing or management
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As for frame rates, do you even know how console development works? Target graphics first, frame rate second.
For the betterment of the internets, stop posting.
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Dude, don't you read the numerous press previews of the game? Well I for one follow them eagerly, and while early Xbox 360 demoes of the game had quite a bad FPS (just look at the second trailer, that's pretty bad), as journalists see more recent builds of the game they report ever increasing framerates. The GP is right, and every game developer (even homebrew, just like me) knows that optimization comes after you got stuff doing what was intended, regardless of the performance.
You know, you are so right. (Score:1)
Since sarcasm doesn't travel well through the IP ether, let me just point it out here.
hot coffee, lies and video games (Score:1)
I'm all for developers taking their time but delays always dissappoint. The gaming industry should better understand how to set expectations lower so that everyone is always pleasantly surprised. For example, at E3, Nintendo announced
So it's all about spin, then? (Score:1)
C'mon now. Think it through.
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dissapointed? definitely not.
and yes, it has always been about spin. We're still talking about the spin regarding Duke Nuke 'Em Forever and it's been 10+ years. The spin lingers for a little while after release when the game is really good but usually when the spin stops, so does the excitement and we can all go back to being objective.
This delay is to let the 360 HDD req. sink in (Score:4, Interesting)
It seems like this move might be giving Rockstar enough time to re-tool the game to take advantage of the HDD requirement by allowing for more content (which would also benefit the PS3), and at the same time letting the HDD requirement for games sink into the buying populace and see how well it works out.
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And that's due to the fact that there's no way a full FM save would fit on a memory card without terminally crippling it on the way from the PC, so it may be something of a special bye.
Time to write off Manhunt 2? (Score:4, Interesting)
The "M" rating is no longer a sure bet for GTA - and GTA is franchise gold. Rockstar has to get this one right.
2008 is a presidential election year - an election will almost certainly turn on core issues like Iraq and health care.
But it is all to easy to picture Rockstar in a another spectacular PR crack-up, the center of a messy, politically-charged debate over video game violence.
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I wonder how this will affect Microsoft (Score:1)
That said, for those of you who say this hurts the XBOX360 more than the PS3, I couldn't disagree with you more. This coming holiday season is a very important time for the two systems. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if this holiday season is important enough to finally giv
I'm a huge GTA fan, but... (Score:2)
The REAL reason they're delaying it... (Score:1, Interesting)
(It costs extra for hot coffee time, after all.)
Saw it coming (Score:2)
To put future "for sure" comments into perspective (Score:2)
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We can only hope that this move will not make Microsoft think they can get away with releasing certain other anticipated titles early w
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Like the latest version of Windows?
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The Dreamcast was one of the greatest, fun consoles created, in its brief run it boasts more solid fun games than most consoles ever get in their first two years.
Don't start using the Dreamcast as fodder for your console war, May the departed rest in piece
(and regardless, if you really need to say these things why not compare it to a truly bad console like the Saturn or the 3D0)
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If MS's decision was actually hampering developers, they'd leave.
So take your whining somewhere the fuck else because it doesn't fit in with REALITY. Last gen, Sony had launch exclusivity for GTA:VC and GTA:SA. They lost that this generation. If anything, signs point to Sony pissing off Rockstar, not Microsoft. You never even back up things like:
And Rockstar has been publicly complaining about being forced to try to fit a free roaming city sized world into a smaller amount of space than last gen.
Where? I have no seen such a complaint -- and you'd think someone who hates MS enough to troll EVERY SINGLE GAMES POST might have a goddamn link handy for this. And don't tell me "MS is paying developers" unless you have a link for it. I love how everything MS does is shady or being paid for, but Sony is just this great consumer friendly corporation. I don't know what fairy tale land you live in, but in the world I live in, both companies fucking suck when it comes to the way they treat customers.
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Take a reading comprehension class with your Sony shill money, asshole.
(For the record, last gen, I owned a PS2, and do not own either version of the X-Box.)
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DVD-9, though limiting compared to newer formats, is still cheaper to create games on than using a higher capacity format like Blu-ray or HD-DVD. This was not the case with the N64 vs. PS1. Not only did you have a larger capacity medium with CD vs. carts, but it also cost a lot less for developers to go with CD.
If it had been cheaper to stay with carts vs CD back when N64 came out, you would not have seen developers jumping ship anywhere
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Most filler games will probably still fit but there is going to be serious headaches for the "epic" titles to fit in that space. Only last week the PGR4 devs said they canned day / night options on their tracks since
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Honestly, I'm surprised any developer is doing Pre-rendered FMV's with the current gen systems. Why not do everything with the in game engine? The graphics look great to begin with, it saves space on the disk, less
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Really? Here are some leaked specs [gamersreports.com] of the 360. But feel free to disagree. Here is one way to prove otherwise - find a torrent site hosting 360 games and locate a torrent containing an uncompressed iso that exceeds 7gb. I suggest Blue Dragon since that spans 3 discs making it fairly likely that disks 1 & 2 are close to full and therefore indicative of the maximum capacity.
Since I'm a Troll.... (Score:1)
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It's like someone hooked up some mousey nerd with a bunch of mod po- oh sweet lord...